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    Default Ravi Piaggio Engine Swap

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    Iam looking forward to swap a good engine in my RP. I dont know how much heavy engine can RP's frame bear.
    @vickytulla looking for your expert advice



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    brother you will soon have a surprise there are many fighter flying under the radar.

    sahi kaha mene @angel82 and @feveo ?

    Quote Originally Posted by saad.bukhari1 View Post
    @Silver_Knife yar kia bana phir engine swapping/engine Midification ka... ic project ko conclude to kro bro taka aur log jo asa krna mai interested hain wi guide lay skin...
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/motorcycle-travel-diaries/277725-sober-riders-visit-khunjerab-adventurous-way-via-nori-pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by vickytulla View Post
    brother you will soon have a surprise there are many fighter flying under the radar.

    sahi kaha mene @angel82 and @feveo ?
    Yes we have done extensive search + RE search now we have plenty of options to chose from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saad.bukhari1 View Post
    @Silver_Knife yar kia bana phir engine swapping/engine Midification ka... ic project ko conclude to kro bro taka aur log jo asa krna mai interested hain wi guide lay skin...
    Bhai waiting for reliable engine till now.. I am looking to buy a 250cc engine that can easily mantain like 160km/h
    @vickytulla bhai koi update karein. As in last trip me bike was literally drinking oil. I met feovo at gujrat he has widen the bore to make room for a bigger piston..

    What you say about this option?

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    Ravi Piaggio Engine Swap -1402165

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    Quote Originally Posted by vickytulla View Post
    brother you will soon have a surprise there are many fighter flying under the radar.

    sahi kaha mene @angel82 and @feveo ?
    Em supposed to be in same group of Fighter flying.. sahi kaha mai na @angel82...???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Knife View Post
    Bhai waiting for reliable engine till now.. I am looking to buy a 250cc engine that can easily mantain like 160km/h
    @vickytulla bhai koi update karein. As in last trip me bike was literally drinking oil. I met feovo at gujrat he has widen the bore to make room for a bigger piston..

    What you say about this option?
    Yar ya to pta lagy k ic na kitnay mm ka cylinder dala hai or ic ka bore?stroke size kitna hai... compression ratio kia bani hai tabhi koi baat clear ho gi...

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    Ali baba website pay 250cc liqued cooled chinese made engine available hain... engine ki shape bhi piaggio jesi hai par unki bhp boht km hai 12 power k hain... otherwise it would be a good option to buy.. wesa I think night hawk ka engine easily ajay ga ic mai or cdi system bhi piaggio ka support kr jay ga usko..

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    oh my!!



    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Knife View Post
    Ravi Piaggio Engine Swap -1402165
    It used to be a nice bike what has he done to it ...



    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Knife View Post
    Bhai waiting for reliable engine till now.. I am looking to buy a 250cc engine that can easily mantain like 160km/h @vickytulla bhai koi update karein. As in last trip me bike was literally drinking oil.
    160kmh maintain kernay k liye you would need atleast an inline four ? I mean 160 tu RX nahi maintain rakhti itni zayada speed maintain rakho gy kis road per ?

    120kmh bhi ager maintain rakho gy tu koi road aesa nahi ho ga jahan ap sab say agay ho gy...

    There are two options :

    1 - Reliable Japanese Used Engines :

    Pros:
    - A self esteem of having a Japs engine
    - Longer Life if found in health state
    - small size big power
    - Air cold no radiator/coolant management
    - properly engineered less vibrations smooth power delivery

    Cons:
    - No back Up , no spare parts, no complete kit, no CDI, no Harness, no carb you will have to gather every thing or buy from used spare parts market.
    - Engine wont fit bolt on and have to do lot of cutting and welding to make it adjust in engine bay.
    - there is no gaurantee that engine you bought was healthy (more chances aer that you will need to put new Rings or worse may be pistons, clutch plates may be valves too)
    - Gona be expensive even if used.
    - still wont reach any where near 160, max you would be doing is 140+/-5 on peak performance and rated Top speed may be some where near 135KMh. (which is quite dangerous for bike as small as paiggio)


    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Knife View Post
    I met feovo at gujrat he has widen the bore to make room for a bigger piston..
    What you say about this option?
    Its a homeapathic treatment


    Quote Originally Posted by saad.bukhari1 View Post
    Yar ya to pta lagy k ic na kitnay mm ka cylinder dala hai or ic ka bore?stroke size kitna hai... compression ratio kia bani hai tabhi koi baat clear ho gi...

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    feveo used Sazgar piston which increased the power delivery but no improvement in top speed.



    Quote Originally Posted by saad.bukhari1 View Post
    Em supposed to be in same group of Fighter flying.. sahi kaha mai na @angel82...???

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    Are you sure ? we are about to book our order of brand new gadgets @angel82 did not told me of your plans to be in?


    Quote Originally Posted by saad.bukhari1 View Post
    Ali baba website pay 250cc liqued cooled chinese made engine available hain... engine ki shape bhi piaggio jesi hai par unki bhp boht km hai 12 power k hain... otherwise it would be a good option to buy.. wesa I think night hawk ka engine easily ajay ga ic mai or cdi system bhi piaggio ka support kr jay ga usko..

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    Sir ye websites sari toppi pehnati hain ... the engine which is 30k on there site will cost some where around 60k+ to 120K when brought to pakistan.


    I dont know which 250cc you saw which produces lame 12hp, from where we are going to order we can have a 250cc with 20hp and 21NM of tourque which is mighty huge for a bike like paiggio.

    even 200cc offers 16BHP and 15NM of Torque and comes with cermic cylender, DID spares parts and Chain, RK head Kit, this all stuff is japanese what else one would ever need .
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/motorcycle-travel-diaries/277725-sober-riders-visit-khunjerab-adventurous-way-via-nori-pass

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    In links ko dekhin... pta nhi ya kesay 250cc engine hain itni km horse power waly.. bandit 250 ki power 45hp hai... fzr 250 bhi itni power ki hai... balius 250 almost 40 hp ki hai... ya chinese pta nhi itnay km power q hoty hain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Knife View Post
    Bhai waiting for reliable engine till now.. I am looking to buy a 250cc engine that can easily mantain like 160km/h
    @vickytulla bhai koi update karein. As in last trip me bike was literally drinking oil. I met feovo at gujrat he has widen the bore to make room for a bigger piston..

    What you say about this option?
    160 km/h waqi thori demand ziada kr di aap na... itni speed piaggio say to nhi possible... Hayabusa ka engine lagana pary ga ;-)

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    Are you sure ? we are about to book our order of brand new gadgets @angel82 did not told me of your plans to be in?


    Uzair bhai was saying that u people are planning to import some engine of low displacement with high power for Piaggio... so I asked him to include my name in the list...


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    @saad.bukhari1 ok, I am looking fwd to meet importer along @angel82 we both would visit lets hope we get the best price.


    the links you gave me have 16HP power engine and 19HP and 20HP power engine ... where as you were saying they are only 12hp ? or 12kw ? if 12kw then it is 16hp which is 5.6HP more then current stock paiggio engine.
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    Waqar bhai ap ne makran coastal highway dekha hai? you can even main 200km/h

    Iam planning a very long trip.. Ok lets make it to 140km/h

    Engine suggestions?

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    I am not sure... but I remember I saw 12 hp engine of 250 displacement on some site... and I know the Hp n Kw disfference... looking for my search history to find that engine :-P

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    @vickytulla jo Zongshen ka engine Ali baba ki site pay display hai wo hai to range mai... I mean $300 are reasonable for a brand new engine. ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Knife View Post
    Waqar bhai ap ne makran coastal highway dekha hai? you can even main 200km/h

    Iam planning a very long trip.. Ok lets make it to 140km/h

    Engine suggestions?

    Yes but to maintain 200KMH you need a bike which has all accesories to bear stress of 200kmh you know RP would rip apart at that high speed, or ager itni tesi say Makran per say guzr gaye tu Sight seeing ka maza kon lay ga ...

    I think you need to buy a used 4valve 250 engine or a brand new Chinises 4Valve250 engine (it worths RS#60~70k with complete kit)


    Quote Originally Posted by saad.bukhari1 View Post
    I am not sure... but I remember I saw 12 hp engine of 250 displacement on some site... and I know the Hp n Kw disfference... looking for my search history to find that engine :-P

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    that must be some poor quality engines, these links are good which you shared but very expensive..

    Quote Originally Posted by saad.bukhari1 View Post
    @vickytulla jo Zongshen ka engine Ali baba ki site pay display hai wo hai to range mai... I mean $300 are reasonable for a brand new engine. ..

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    300$ = 30k+235%Tax+shipping+regulation+WithHolding = +++90k are you serious he he he he? itny ky do teen engine with compltete kit brand new mujsay lay lo bhai isay achay hon gy...
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/motorcycle-travel-diaries/277725-sober-riders-visit-khunjerab-adventurous-way-via-nori-pass

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    235% ya kon sa tax rate hai?

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    per cc cost jab total kero or Duty dal ker itna he ban jata hai, abhi kuch din pehly he kisi thread men aik document ki snap shot share hui thee k bikes per import per cc phir barh gaye hai tab andaza ligaya tha..

    mene omair say discuss kiya tha engine k baray men usko 4valve engine ki keemat kafi munasib lagi hai ... jo apny pta keraya hai ...

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    235% ya kon sa tax rate hai?

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    @vickytulla as per your suggestion.. whats the best engine swap option and kharcha?

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