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    Cool My New Ravi Piaggio 2014 (New Model)

    Hello everyone, yesterday i got my brand new Ravi Piaggio new model at last (awaited a very long time.)

    Please i require your expert knowledge on first 1,000 KM as i previously owned a Metro 70CC bike and this is a very new experience for me. Guide me regarding the running and general maintenance for this bike, as it is quite sophisticated as compared to my old bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neodescorpio View Post
    @vickytulla bro what's the myth about Hi Octane petrol , is pe running achi hoti use it etc . . .

    you bike would like hi-octane and instantly give you a performance lift when you will use it because it has a higher compression engine and loves more powerful fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vickytulla View Post
    you bike would like hi-octane and instantly give you a performance lift when you will use it because it has a higher compression engine and loves more powerful fuel.
    But the problem is that the marginal increase in mileage is totally not worth the extra cost of Hi octane though

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    Many Congratulations.. Beautiful Bike but do some proper photoshoot, and buy some good quality detailing stuff for your ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SyedMoazzam View Post
    But the problem is that the marginal increase in mileage is totally not worth the extra cost of Hi octane though
    So my bike's engine is able to digest such fuel because it's a high compression engine. hmmm . . . I was asking if it is useful during the first 300 KM other then mileage and performance because i can't accelerate it like i do until the first tuning. Will it be helpful for engine during the running time period?

    But it's good hear that it can perform well on Hi-Octane .

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    Quote Originally Posted by vickytulla View Post
    you bike would like hi-octane and instantly give you a performance lift when you will use it because it has a higher compression engine and loves more powerful fuel.
    Glad to hear that , do other bikes like GS150, GD110 and CG125 can also give high performance and mileage on Hi-Octane ?

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    yep! but most of people who use Hi Octane is to keep the engine healthy for longer time, and get the maximum of what it can do in terms of power, its expensive fuel so mostly used by only those people who dont mind fuel heavy on pocket..

    Quote Originally Posted by SyedMoazzam View Post
    But the problem is that the marginal increase in mileage is totally not worth the extra cost of Hi octane though
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    yes it will be good.. but how good thats what any chemical engineer can explain but as its like a health food for you ride it should be good ? just making a calculated guess ...

    Quote Originally Posted by neodescorpio View Post
    Will it be helpful for engine during the running time period.
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    not sure about GD110 but GS and CG has no response to hiOctane fuel as the are low compression bikes. (read on Pakwheels some where back in time) ...

    Quote Originally Posted by neodescorpio View Post
    Glad to hear that , do other bikes like GS150, GD110 and CG125 can also give high performance and mileage on Hi-Octane ?
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/motorcycle-travel-diaries/277725-sober-riders-visit-khunjerab-adventurous-way-via-nori-pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by vickytulla View Post
    you bike would like hi-octane and instantly give you a performance lift when you will use it because it has a higher compression engine and loves more powerful fuel.
    but .. mechanic told me k HI octane agr use kro gy to valve jldi farigh ho jain gy .. i don't knw y he said like that .mjy apny bike mn koi khas improvmnt feel ni hoi hi octne dalny k bad .
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    @vickytulla @neodescorpio @Eur0_2 ! Bhai Hi-Octane bera garq kar de ga aap k engine ka. Your valves will be worn out quicker. Hi-Octane fuel burns slower and is harder to ignite, and our bikes engines are not enough to keep-up with such a fuel ... which might start creating carbon deposits inside your combustion chamber. These are commuter bikes, and you should not use hi-octane unless the manufacturer says so.

    "High compression" engines main use karne ka meaning "Piaggio" nahi, but those high-performance engines hain, say those heavy bikes with compression ratios higher than 12:1 ... which can use a fuel with octane rating 90 or higher. Otherwise 87 rating octane (normal Petrol) will do just fine.

    Mechanics usually say to use Hi-Octane fuel, mixing it up with normal like 20% Hi-Octane, and 80% Petrol ... just to increase the efficiency of fuel burning a little bit. Practically, it'll have absolutely NO impact on your fuel mileage, because there is very little increase in octane rating but a significant increase in fuel costs. (tried and tested).

    CG125 main to bilkul bhi na daalo Hi-Octane. Not even mixing Petrol up with Hi-Octane. It does more harm than any good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vickytulla View Post
    not sure about GD110 but GS and CG has no response to hiOctane fuel as the are low compression bikes. (read on Pakwheels some where back in time) ...
    Just read in wikipedia that low compression bikes have a ratio not higher than 10:1
    Now RP 125 has a ratio of 10.2:1 while GS150 has 9:1 hence for best engine performance in RP hi octane should be used while for GS normal petrol is ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by abobobilly View Post
    @vickytulla @neodescorpio @Eur0_2 ! Bhai Hi-Octane bera garq kar de ga aap k engine ka. Your valves will be worn out quicker. Hi-Octane fuel burns slower and is harder to ignite, and our bikes engines are not enough to keep-up with such a fuel ... which might start creating carbon deposits inside your combustion chamber. These are commuter bikes, and you should not use hi-octane unless the manufacturer says so.

    "High compression" engines main use karne ka meaning "Piaggio" nahi, but those high-performance engines hain, say those heavy bikes with compression ratios higher than 12:1 ... which can use a fuel with octane rating 90 or higher. Otherwise 87 rating octane (normal Petrol) will do just fine.

    Mechanics usually say to use Hi-Octane fuel, mixing it up with normal like 20% Hi-Octane, and 80% Petrol ... just to increase the efficiency of fuel burning a little bit. Practically, it'll have absolutely NO impact on your fuel mileage, because there is very little increase in octane rating but a significant increase in fuel costs. (tried and tested).

    CG125 main to bilkul bhi na daalo Hi-Octane. Not even mixing Petrol up with Hi-Octane. It does more harm than any good.
    ust read in wikipedia that low compression bikes have a ratio not higher than 10:1
    Now RP 125 has a ratio of 10.2:1 while GS150 has 9:1 hence for best engine performance in RP hi octane should be used while for GS normal petrol is ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eur0_2 View Post
    but .. mechanic told me k HI octane agr use kro gy to valve jldi farigh ho jain gy .. i don't knw y he said like that .mjy apny bike mn koi khas improvmnt feel ni hoi hi octne dalny k bad .

    exactly he said correct becuase your CG would be unable to burn all the Fuel octanes and carbon will clogg all you chamber and Valves and ruin your engine you must not use it... i advised it to Paiggio owner actually ap normal feul bhi use kero gy tu chalay ga


    Quote Originally Posted by SyedMoazzam View Post
    Just read in wikipedia that low compression bikes have a ratio not higher than 10:1
    Now RP 125 has a ratio of 10.2:1 while GS150 has 9:1 hence for best engine performance in RP hi octane should be used while for GS normal petrol is ok
    Cool! (Y) mene ye baat khurram say suni thee ... can you share the link I wana read more about it ...


    Quote Originally Posted by abobobilly View Post
    @vickytulla @neodescorpio @Eur0_2 !
    CG125 main to bilkul bhi na daalo Hi-Octane. Not even mixing Petrol up with Hi-Octane. It does more harm than any good.
    @abobobilly, I am not sure frankly! but according to what moazzam bhai is explaining any thing above beyond 10: RATIO is high compression.. ... I have very less info in this regard that what is high compression and what is not but RP125 has the highest compression in local bikes ... secondly it did not harmed my last paiggio :/ and i sold it when it was somewhere around 70k on meter and abused alot and I felt a "considerable" difference ... when ever I used 'STP' or hi-Oct Fuel, first time I was not aware that it would make that good difference I added octane in normal feul because mechanic advised me to use (as they advised almost every body ) it so that engine gets cleaner I noticed good difference but thought that it is because of recent tuning but as soon as I switched back to normal fuel bike came to average performance too.. then to make sure I added octane again and bike was again back in business.... later on I found out that even Stp is equally effective octane booster and cheaper solution as that 400RS bottle is enough for 21Gallons....

    But when ever I advised a CG owner they came with a bad face that nothing happened then I showed them my ride and they also even noticed the difference, so that forces me to think that ok RP is a happy face with more octanes where as CG say bring me nay fuel and I would eat it .
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    According to Piaggio user manual 89 octane fuel is recommended. Now 2 points comes in my mind

    1- What are the octanes of normal and high octane fuel. If we know that we can manage to get 89 octane by proper mixing of hi and normal fuel.

    2- Does the petrol currently selling in PK have proper octane rating?
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    I dont know but I did saw auditors testing petrol sample on Total Pump a couple of times in random timings on different stations.. the worst petrol I found is on Shell Pump.. not sure what ratings they offer..

    PSO is also good! not sure about others..

    Quote Originally Posted by angel82 View Post
    According to Piaggio user manual 89 octane fuel is recommended. Now 2 points comes in my mind

    1- What are the octanes of normal and high octane fuel. If we know that we can manage to get 89 octane by proper mixing of hi and normal fuel.

    2- Does the petrol currently selling in PK have proper octane rating?
    @vickytulla and others
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/motorcycle-travel-diaries/277725-sober-riders-visit-khunjerab-adventurous-way-via-nori-pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by vickytulla View Post
    I dont know but I did saw auditors testing petrol sample on Total Pump a couple of times in random timings on different stations.. the worst petrol I found is on Shell Pump.. not sure what ratings they offer..

    PSO is also good! not sure about others..
    ahan.... i wish we could have same setup like US has for its fuel stations. :p

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    From this i can guess that regular is 87 and Hi Octane is 91. so we can mix it to get around 89.

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