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    friends,i brought honda inside 1 week ago and now my car is making issues, mechanic said to em the hybrid battery is finished,, friends tell em please can this car run on petrol only?how to disconnect the hybrid battery?

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    As according to my knowledge, Honda Insight is a mild hybrid car, it always run on petorl engine taking support of electric motor only.

    If this is the case, then you can simply disable the Hybrid mode, (there must be some settings for that)
    wait for some Honda Insight owner to help you.
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    Bro u bought it just a week ago? didn't u get it checked then.
    PS its honda insight
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    Quote Originally Posted by mansoor_qadir View Post
    Bro u bought it just a week ago? didn't u get it checked then.
    PS its honda insight
    May be he purchased a used one.

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    the problem is insight hybrid system is also the source of recharging your 12v system

    so if hybrid system fails ...its just like driving car without alternator ....so you have few minutes untill you run out of charging


    either put in high end batteries or add alternator to keep 12v system running

    thats all i know ..experts ad more to this
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    Quote Originally Posted by mansoor_qadir View Post
    Bro u bought it just a week ago? didn't u get it checked then.
    PS its honda insight
    bro my friend taken em to the car dealer n he suggested em to buy this car and i was having blind faith on my friend so i brought it without cross check n now im in trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rozzzzz View Post
    the problem is insight hybrid system is also the source of recharging your 12v system

    so if hybrid system fails ...its just like driving car without alternator ....so you have few minutes untill you run out of charging


    either put in high end batteries or add alternator to keep 12v system running

    thats all i know ..experts ad more to this
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    bro sad to know this but get it thoroughly checked from honda 3s.
    Never trust anyone. Always check yourself before buying from hard earned money.
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    bro my friend taken em to the car dealer n he suggested em to buy this car and i was having blind faith on my friend so i brought it without cross check n now im in trouble.
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    Bro Honda 3s dealer said to em that we don't accept or check any imported car bcx aur mehanic r specialist in local cars civic n city

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    there is a red button under a metal strip in boot area.turn it off to shut off hybrid system.than see how car behaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rozzzzz View Post
    the problem is insight hybrid system is also the source of recharging your 12v system

    so if hybrid system fails ...its just like driving car without alternator ....so you have few minutes untill you run out of charging


    either put in high end batteries or add alternator to keep 12v system running

    thats all i know ..experts ad more to this
    No, If hybrid system dies it runs like a normal car. Infact all hybrid cars run like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fawwad View Post
    bro my friend taken em to the car dealer n he suggested em to buy this car and i was having blind faith on my friend so i brought it without cross check n now im in trouble.
    get a new battery it would be used though in working condition. for 50k


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    Btw, Is there IMA check light on dash? because if battery dies there must be IMA check lamp else there would be some other issue. I've had insight for 2 yrs so you can ask me

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    Quote Originally Posted by rozzzzz View Post
    the problem is insight hybrid system is also the source of recharging your 12v system

    so if hybrid system fails ...its just like driving car without alternator ....so you have few minutes untill you run out of charging


    either put in high end batteries or add alternator to keep 12v system running

    thats all i know ..experts ad more to this
    this is the exact case... there is no alternator in honda insight and a step down DC-DC convertor charges the 12v starter battery... the exact circuit is complex but if your 12v starter battery is weak... it effects the overall performance of the car including consumption and EPS/ABS as well..

    In this particular case... go to any mechanic who has a scanner for a detailed checkup... maybe the IMA battery is ok... and therez some other fault...

    even if only the 12v battery is unable to hold charge (weak battery) the IMA continously works to keep it charged and contributes less towards saving fuel...

    plz post a snap of all the warning lights which are on in ur dash...

    further if you are interested or if your mechanic wants... I have detailed shop manual... which includes each and every circuit diagram/relay/fuse explained... that might help but you need to find a good expert mechanic for diagnosis and further repairs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fawwad View Post
    friends,i brought honda inside 1 week ago and now my car is making issues, mechanic said to em the hybrid battery is finished,, friends tell em please can this car run on petrol only?how to disconnect the hybrid battery?
    No, your car cannot only run on the engine. The "IMA" in your car stands for Integrated Motor Assist which means that if either one is at fault, your car will not work. Both the engine and battery work in unison to move the car. The battery is built to last around 200,000KMs and sometimes even more. What mileage is your odometer displaying?

    If you suspect your hybrid battery is weak, it'll give an "IMA" and check engine light at the same time because the faulty battery will put strain on the engine causing it to overheat and work double time. Have the check lights scanned using a proper OBD-II scanner. Then and only then, go for a replacement. Its even better to have Honda Center have a look at it and then go for a replacement. Usually its just a battery terminal issue with most Civic hybrids/Insights.

    You can buy a good condition used Civic/Insight hybrid battery for 60-70k with almost 80-90% life remaining on it. Your old battery will go for 5-8k. I know this because my friend just had the battery in his 2012 Insight replaced just a month ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
    No, If hybrid system dies it runs like a normal car. Infact all hybrid cars run like that.

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    It will go into limp mode and will not cross 40KM/h or 1500 RPM. The transmission will be very jerky and the car will turn off every time you come to a stop. You will lose power steering, VSA and ABS; not to mention all other electronics associated with the battery.

    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
    get a new battery it would be used though in working condition. for 50k


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    My friend got one for his 2012 Insight for 65k. It had more than 90% life on it according to Honda Center's scanner. The voltage was 19 volts per cell if I remember correctly (will confirm the voltage).

    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
    Btw, Is there IMA check light on dash? because if battery dies there must be IMA check lamp else there would be some other issue. I've had insight for 2 yrs so you can ask me

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    IMA and check engine light appear simultaneously on both Civic hybrids and Insights. If only the IMA light is on, it might mean that the 12v battery under the hood might have a loose/rusty terminal. It could also mean that the battery is weak but not dead exactly. The scanner at Honda Center will say "Serious Battery Deterioration" in the IMA menu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhaderaziz_official View Post
    It will go into limp mode and will not cross 40KM/h or 1500 RPM. The transmission will be very jerky and the car will turn off every time you come to a stop. You will lose power steering, VSA and ABS; not to mention all other electronics associated with the battery.



    My friend got one for his 2012 Insight for 65k. It had more than 90% life on it according to Honda Center's scanner. The voltage was 19 volts per cell if I remember correctly (will confirm the voltage).



    IMA and check engine light appear simultaneously on both Civic hybrids and Insights. If only the IMA light is on, it might mean that the 12v battery under the hood might have a loose/rusty terminal. It could also mean that the battery is weak but not dead exactly. The scanner at Honda Center will say "Serious Battery Deterioration" in the IMA menu.
    No, the car can run without battery but definitely performance is compromised. It'll feel underpowered, you do loose lots of electronic systems but it won't turn off at every stop and transmission is cvt it can not get jerkey it has no gears

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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
    No, the car can run without battery but definitely performance is compromised. It'll feel underpowered, you do loose lots of electronic systems but it won't turn off at every stop and transmission is cvt it can not get jerkey it has no gears

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    It'll just be a lump of metal. The transmission does get jerky. I've experienced that in a 2012 Insight.
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    The car won't run too long if you have removed the 100v battery for IMA. If you still have it there it will work but recharge normal battery at much higher rpms.
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    Brother, ring us on 03008718890. We have imported Hybrid diagnostic system which is used by Toyota , Honda and other main service dealers. I'll do a through check on your IMA battery system and can help you with your battery problem. We are near Tariq Road.
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