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    A month ago, a gentleman came to us for oil change in his almost new Pirius 2012 Model (he purchased ~2.3 million).
    We recommended him fully synthetic 5/40, but he said its expensive. After half an hour discussion we ended up to pour 5/30 oil for PTT (because he was not willing spend single more penny for engine oil). anyway.

    After 2 weeks he came and said the oil (PTT 5/30) is "just Ok". But not very excellent. And he advised that he will buy the oil by himself and will come here for change. We said OK.

    After 1 month he came to us and asked to drain the oil. We did. Then he opened the trunk and give us new "bottle" of oil and said he has bought it from Hyperstar (or Makro) because his mechanic friend has strongly advised this oil. And when we saw at the bottle, our jaws were dropped to knees. It was Havoline Motor Oil 20/50 of SG grade. We slightly insist him that its not good oil, but he start staring at very strange eyes and started getting mad. So eventually we poured Havoline 20/50 SG grade oil in his almost brand new Pirius.

    Guess what, when he start the car, the "engine check light didn't turned off". It?s a week now and his engine light is not turned off but he (GOD Shower His Blessings on him) still running car. But now he slightly admitted that he will change the oil as per our advise but still next time (after running Havoline for 5K min.). We asked him again to change it immediately and considered it as your loss. But he will run at-least 3K on it. Uff.. what a mentality.
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    Naesh aadmi....
    he deserves a mehran..
    having a car of 2.3 mill and dont have money to maintain it??
    Leave sooner, drive slower, live longer

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmanuetian View Post
    Naesh aadmi....
    he deserves a mehran..
    having a car of 2.3 mill and dont have money to maintain it??
    na kar yar, gusa ei kar gaya aaain. us ki marzi jo marzi dalway
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    sounds fishy - the oil type has nothing to do with check engine light
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    Quote Originally Posted by chdemon View Post
    na kar yar, gusa ei kar gaya aaain. us ki marzi jo marzi dalway
    O nae yar
    I really don't like people who don't keep things in a way they are supposed to be kept.
    Leave sooner, drive slower, live longer

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    Ru a workshop owner?

    Btw Xulfi bhai is right about the check lite.

    check lite would not come on due to an oil change it may be an wiring issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    sounds fishy - the oil type has nothing to do with check engine light
    Its confirmed that it appeared after the oil was changed.
    It can be considered that while oil change something happened (perhaps filter didn't close properly, like that etc.). But we already double checked everything right after this sensor light turns on. Also we changed the oil last time too so the chances are less from mechanical side.

    New oils can be used in Old Cars. But old oils (like SJ, SH, SG, etc.) can be harmful for using into new cars especially JDMs.
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    @GoodMan7 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuja11 View Post
    Ru a workshop owner?
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    My brother runs an oil shop Sir. And taking bit of interest about oils is my time killing part time job. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodMan7 View Post
    My brother runs an oil shop Sir. And taking bit of interest about oils is my time killing part time job. lol.
    So because of that you dont prefer OEM oils?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuja11 View Post
    So because of that you dont prefer OEM oils?
    no sir. its because of quality & previous experiences infact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodMan7 View Post
    no sir. its because of quality & previous experiences infact.
    Well not sure what experience u had but as far as my experience.

    Suzuki mini motors, honda fort, toyota walton & garden motors all are good reliable facilities and excellent workshops.

    Manufacturer knows what the car wants the technicians are only trained for the car you have. if u have a pkdm.
    so i think there is no point in other oils or fluids unless u have a jdm and u dont really know what to put in the car.

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    saw the similar stuff at f.6 caltex.. actually it was a honda civic hybrid -2006-08 ...and he use formula 10-30... while seeing it ,i was thinking WTH he is doing...atleast ..hybrid needs a synthetic or other good oil......
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    yar aub to toyota naii yahan launch ker di hai prius loog phir be kisi farigh c jagha sai farigh oil dalwa letay hain.

    actually they think toyota hai koi nai kuj nai hounda ainoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodMan7 View Post
    A month ago, a gentleman came to us for oil change in his almost new Pirius 2012 Model (he purchased ~2.3 million).
    We recommended him fully synthetic 5/40, but he said its expensive. After half an hour discussion we ended up to pour 5/30 oil for PTT (because he was not willing spend single more penny for engine oil). anyway.

    After 2 weeks he came and said the oil (PTT 5/30) is "just Ok". But not very excellent. And he advised that he will buy the oil by himself and will come here for change. We said OK.

    After 1 month he came to us and asked to drain the oil. We did. Then he opened the trunk and give us new "bottle" of oil and said he has bought it from Hyperstar (or Makro) because his mechanic friend has strongly advised this oil. And when we saw at the bottle, our jaws were dropped to knees. It was Havoline Motor Oil 20/50 of SG grade. We slightly insist him that its not good oil, but he start staring at very strange eyes and started getting mad. So eventually we poured Havoline 20/50 SG grade oil in his almost brand new Pirius.

    Guess what, when he start the car, the "engine check light didn't turned off". It?s a week now and his engine light is not turned off but he (GOD Shower His Blessings on him) still running car. But now he slightly admitted that he will change the oil as per our advise but still next time (after running Havoline for 5K min.). We asked him again to change it immediately and considered it as your loss. But he will run at-least 3K on it. Uff.. what a mentality.
    So , I dont know about oils and I think my dad got my cars (Honda Insight) oil changed to Zic A+ 5/40 still I will confirm but is it good ? This grade ?
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    Howz profi-car Challenge 5w20 specially for prius ( hybrid)

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    Quote Originally Posted by elegantkhan View Post
    Howz profi-car Challenge 5w20 specially for prius ( hybrid)
    sir, whats the price & recommonded change interval of it?
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    Price for profi-car challange
    4L~3400 and milage at least 15k

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodMan7 View Post
    Its confirmed that it appeared after the oil was changed.
    It can be considered that while oil change something happened (perhaps filter didn't close properly, like that etc.). But we already double checked everything right after this sensor light turns on. Also we changed the oil last time too so the chances are less from mechanical side.

    New oils can be used in Old Cars. But old oils (like SJ, SH, SG, etc.) can be harmful for using into new cars especially JDMs.
    oil has nothing to do with engine check light, why dont you connect a scanner to verify what was the fault, it maybe that your oil change mechanic knocked something loose.

    The engine will not suddenly go nuts on SG rated oil, it will slowly kill the cat converter.

    btw you should have a handy scanner at your oil change shop - in this case I think the car owner was a simpleton, if it were someone else you might have a giant problem - because the car rolled in with no error and now after your work it has an error. If I owned that car you would be fixing it right now.
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    @GoodMan7 i thnk U got ans of profi-car challenge

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