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    Default Very bad choice of oil for Pirius

    A month ago, a gentleman came to us for oil change in his almost new Pirius 2012 Model (he purchased ~2.3 million).
    We recommended him fully synthetic 5/40, but he said its expensive. After half an hour discussion we ended up to pour 5/30 oil for PTT (because he was not willing spend single more penny for engine oil). anyway.

    After 2 weeks he came and said the oil (PTT 5/30) is "just Ok". But not very excellent. And he advised that he will buy the oil by himself and will come here for change. We said OK.

    After 1 month he came to us and asked to drain the oil. We did. Then he opened the trunk and give us new "bottle" of oil and said he has bought it from Hyperstar (or Makro) because his mechanic friend has strongly advised this oil. And when we saw at the bottle, our jaws were dropped to knees. It was Havoline Motor Oil 20/50 of SG grade. We slightly insist him that its not good oil, but he start staring at very strange eyes and started getting mad. So eventually we poured Havoline 20/50 SG grade oil in his almost brand new Pirius.

    Guess what, when he start the car, the "engine check light didn't turned off". It?s a week now and his engine light is not turned off but he (GOD Shower His Blessings on him) still running car. But now he slightly admitted that he will change the oil as per our advise but still next time (after running Havoline for 5K min.). We asked him again to change it immediately and considered it as your loss. But he will run at-least 3K on it. Uff.. what a mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    The wear metals are measured
    the original blend minerals/metals are measured
    the TBN is measured
    physical attributes are tested

    They don't use their fingers.
    No. These are not enough tests what you've mentioned.
    Basically there are two types of tests that are conducted.
    Lab Test & Engine test.
    Details are as under

    LABORATORY TESTS

    Viscosity grades
    Shear stability
    Viscosity
    Evaporative loss
    TBN
    Sulphur
    Phosphor
    Sulphated ash
    Chlorine
    Oil / Elastomer
    Foaming tendency
    High temperature foaming tendency
    Oxidation in presence of biodiesel
    Low-Temperature Pumpability


    ENGINE TESTS

    High temperature
    Low temperature
    Valve train
    Black
    Fuel economy
    Medium
    Oil Dispersion at Medium Temperature for Passenger Car Direct Injection Diesel Engines
    Wear
    DI diesel Piston cleanliness & Ring sticking
    Effects of Biodiesel & Piston Cleanliness

    For your informations.
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    YES I know

    you can even have the test that has 300 parameters. Do you have any data on the blend and wear metals? Or did you just post this because you thought you can prove your finger test...

    This is a sample oil test

    Very bad choice of oil for Pirius -1347566

    Some metals of the test are blended with the oil, some are wear.. Please enlighten us which are which.
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    ive seen similar stuff on prototype type engines..or to dispute warranty claims....but seeing it here is kind of weird..
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    this is PW - aka Pak Weird
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    Kindly sms me Ur bro shop add. Thnxx

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    the high metal content..what would u put it down to..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teeboyuk View Post
    the high metal content..what would u put it down to..

    which metal are talking about? Cu, Fe, Pb ??
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    all of them are high pb seems to the biggest issue..
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    the report says the engine is pretty new - (mileage) - its probably showing high wear due to breaking in.
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    true i would go for ecu..have look at driving characteristics see if its been tracked or driven like its been stolen..
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    yep - that would be the best, the high lead and Cu is strange, mostly seen in break in condition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    YES I know

    you can even have the test that has 300 parameters. Do you have any data on the blend and wear metals? Or did you just post this because you thought you can prove your finger test...

    This is a sample oil test

    Very bad choice of oil for Pirius -1347566

    Some metals of the test are blended with the oil, some are wear.. Please enlighten us which are which.
    this report still misses TBN and Viscosity at 100'C. Both of these are very important factors to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elegantkhan View Post
    Kindly sms me Ur bro shop add. Thnxx
    May i know in which area of Lahore you are residing? Just for reference.
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    Profi-car lubricants plot no# 4 shop no#4 niazi market (Near fruit market or sabzi mandi), genral truck stand ravi link road Lahore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elegantkhan View Post
    Profi-car lubricants plot no# 4 shop no#4 niazi market (Near fruit market or sabzi mandi), genral truck stand ravi link road Lahore.
    i'll pay visit soon.
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    Thnxx... But Where is your brother shop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elegantkhan View Post
    Thnxx... But Where is your brother shop?
    Its near Shalimar Garden on main GT Road.
    We may discuss soon upon meeting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodMan7 View Post
    this report still misses TBN and Viscosity at 100'C. Both of these are very important factors to know.
    Maybe this person did not want that, Blackstone charges 24 dollars for this test, another 10 for TBN
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    Ok.. thnxxx

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    @GoodMan7 ur advice on fb page of JDM importer page
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