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    Default Toyota Prius Aqua fan club

    TOYOTA AQUA HYBRID THE BEST FUEL SAVING CAR IN 1500 cc CATEGORY
    Chassis ID: DAA-NHP10
    Model 1NZ-FXE
    Type water cooling inline 4 cylinder DOHC+
    Bore x course of the piston, mm 75.0x84.7
    Engine Size 1496
    Compression ratio 13.4
    Fuel injection system EFI
    Maximum power hp / t.min. 74
    Fuel tank capacity, liters 36 l
    Fuel Regular unleaded gasoline

    DIFFERENT VARIANTS OF AQUA ARE ( L, S, G,G TOURING, S TOURING, GS, G BLACK SOFT LEATHER SELECTION )

    DETAILS OF MAINLY IMPORTED VARIANTS

    L PACKAGE
    Driver's air bag YES
    Front passenger air bag YES
    Side airbags OPTIONAL
    ABS YES
    TRC YES
    Safety belts with tensioner YES
    Safety belts with efforts' limiters YES
    Safety belts with holding YES
    The mechanism of fixation of children's seats NO
    Safety planks YES
    Brake assist YES
    EBD YES
    Anti theft device NO
    Air conditioner Full Auto
    Power window YES ( ONLY FRONT)
    Central switch YES
    Steering column length NO
    Steering column height YES
    Front brake Ventilated disk
    Rear brake Drum
    Front wheel 165/70R14
    Rear wheel 165/70R14
    Front / rear spoiler OPTIONAL

    S PACKAGE
    Driver's air bag YES
    Front passenger air bag YES
    Side airbags OPTIONAL
    ABS YES
    TRC YES
    Safety belts with tensioner YES
    Safety belts with efforts' limiters YES
    Safety belts with holding YES
    Safety planks YES
    Brake assist YES
    EBD YES
    Anti theft device OPTIONAL
    Air conditioner Full Auto
    Power window YES
    Central switch YES
    Cruise control NO
    L.E.D LIGHTS OPTIONAL
    Finishing leather steering wheel NO
    leather seats NO
    Power front seat NO
    Power rear seat NO
    Front suspension STRUT TYPE COIL SPRING
    Rear suspension TORSION BEAM
    Front brake Ventilated DISK
    Rear brake DRUM
    Front wheel 175/65R15
    Rear wheel 175/65R15
    The minimum diameter of a turn 4.8
    Additional front headlights YES
    Rear wiper YES

    G PACKAGE
    Driver's air bag YES
    Front passenger air bag YES
    Side airbags OPTIONAL
    ABS YES
    TRC YES
    Safety belts with tensioner YES
    Safety belts with efforts' limiters YES
    Safety belts with holding YES
    Safety planks YES
    Brake assist YES
    EBD YES
    Anti theft device OPTIONAL
    Air conditioner Full Auto
    Power window YES
    Central switch YES
    Cruise control YES
    L.E.D LIGHTS OPTIONAL
    Finishing leather steering wheel NO
    leather seats YES
    Power front seat NO
    Power rear seat NO
    Front suspension STRUT TYPE COIL SPRING
    Rear suspension TORSION BEAM
    Front brake Ventilated DISK
    Rear brake DRUM
    Front wheel 175/65R15
    Rear wheel 175/65R15
    The minimum diameter of a turn 4.8
    Additional front headlights YES
    Rear wiper YES

    G BLACK SOFT LEATHER SELECTION
    Driver's air bag EXIST
    Front passenger air bag EXIST
    Side airbags OPTIONAL
    ABS YES
    TRC YES
    Safety belts with tensioner YES
    Safety belts with efforts' limiters YES
    Safety belts with holding YES
    Safety planks YES
    Brake assist YES
    EBD YES
    Anti theft device YES
    Air conditioner FULL AUTO
    Power window YES
    Central switch YES
    Steering column length YES
    Steering column height YES
    Cruise control YES
    L.E.D LIGHTS OPTIONAL
    Finishing leather steering wheel YES
    Folding seat SPLIT
    Glass with a UV filter YES
    Toned glasses YES
    Power front seat NO
    Power rear seat NO
    Front suspension STRUT TYPE COIL SPRING
    Rear suspension TORSION BEAM
    Front brake Ventilated DISK
    Rear brake DRUM
    Front wheel 175/65R15
    Rear wheel 175/65R15
    The minimum diameter of a turn 4.8
    Additional front headlights YES
    Rear wiper YES

    G GS PACKAGE
    Driver's air bag YES
    Front passenger air bag YES
    Side airbags OPTIONAL
    ABS YES
    TRC YES
    Safety belts with tensioner YES
    Safety belts with efforts' limiters YES
    Safety belts with holding YES
    Safety planks YES
    Brake assist YES
    EBD YES
    Anti theft device OPTIONAL
    Air conditioner Full Auto
    Power window YES
    Central switch YES
    Steering column length YES
    Steering column height YES
    Cruise control YES
    L.E.D LIGHTS OPTIONAL
    Finishing leather steering wheel YES
    leather seats OPTIONAL
    Power front seat OPTIONAL
    alloy wheels 17 inches standard
    Folding seat SPLIT
    Glass with a UV filter YES
    Toned glasses YES
    Steering Power assist equipped rack&pinion
    Front suspension Strut type Coil spring
    Rear suspension Torsion beam
    Front brake Ventilated disk
    Rear brake Drum
    Front wheel 195/45R17
    Rear wheel 195/45R17
    The minimum diameter of a turn 5.8
    Front fog lights YES
    Additional front headlights YES
    Front / rear spoiler YES
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    Ramzan Mubarak.

    Motor Oil 201 - Bob is the Oil Guy - Bob is the Oil Guy

    This is one of the best site on oil. The link is 7 chapters on oil. They too recommend 0w20 in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahbaz_shah View Post
    Brother you are wrong again. I must say u did a nice bit of research. You brought into our knowledge something that we didnt knew about. Viscosity index of Kixx 0w 20 is 167. You are right. But the viscosity index of Total 0w 30 is 177. And that of Total 5w 30 is 171. Viscosity index of Zic 5w 40 is 173. The link that u have given clearly shows that the higher the viscosity index, more stable is the oil at higher temperatures. Viscosity index of 0w 30, 5w 30 and 5w 40 is higher than 0w 20. Check the official websites of zic and total for confirmation. Thanx again for bringing into my knowledge something new.
    Couldn't find total 5w30 at 171. Can you post link? It is 160 in fr website. Toyota 0w20 that they are offering in USA . it's vi is 216.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kashif144 View Post
    Couldn't find total 5w30 at 171. Can you post link? It is 160 in fr website. Toyota 0w20 that they are offering in USA . it's vi is 216.
    http://www4.total.fr/nordic/auto_lub..._5W-30_ENG.pdf

    Official website of total

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahbaz_shah View Post
    This product is not for pakistan. Total 9000 future is used in pakistan. On searching total.fr for Pakistan. The total 9000 future VI is 160. This is lower as compared to 0w20.

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    Ok. Thanx brother for letting me know..

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    But there are more important things other than the engine oil in getting a good fuel economy. Shifting from 0w30 to 0w20 in a hybrid vehicle you gain only .1 MPG in your fuel economy (as told by the websites of different motor oils). So for me engine oil debate is not that important. I will tell u some more practical things to do for a good mileage. Just a little bz right now to post my experimentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahbaz_shah View Post
    But there are more important things other than the engine oil in getting a good fuel economy. Shifting from 0w30 to 0w20 in a hybrid vehicle you gain only .1 MPG in your fuel economy (as told by the websites of different motor oils). So for me engine oil debate is not that important. I will tell u some more practical things to do for a good mileage. Just a little bz right now to post my experimentation.
    Looking fwd to ur experience. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahbaz_shah View Post
    But there are more important things other than the engine oil in getting a good fuel economy. Shifting from 0w30 to 0w20 in a hybrid vehicle you gain only .1 MPG in your fuel economy (as told by the websites of different motor oils). So for me engine oil debate is not that important. I will tell u some more practical things to do for a good mileage. Just a little bz right now to post my experimentation.
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    Salam to All....well guys thanx for waiting for my experimentation. The delay for posting my experience was because i just wanted to be sure of my results.

    What i experimented was i took out the iridium plugs from my aqua about a week ago. I was getting around 20km/l with those plugs on my daily usual driving on the same routes and almost at the same time. So i removed the denso Iridium plugs FK-16R from my ride and i replaced them with the Conventional NGK plugs BKR6E.

    I used a feeler guage and set the plug gap at 0.5 mm. Thats 0.020 inch.
    I drove the car on the usual daily routes at the daily routine timings with the normal light foot that i usually use. The fuel average that i got was 18km/l approx.

    I again took out the plugs. The plug gap this time was widened to 1mm using feeler guage. Thats .040 of an inch.
    Again i drove the car at the same routes with same daily timings getting the same amount of traffic that i usually do. The fuel average this time was 20km/l...

    I took out the plugs again. The gap this time was adjusted at 1.5mm. Thats .060 of an inch.
    Again the same daily practice of driving..................................and the fuel average jumped to 22km/l....

    This average that i got was without iridium plugs, using the conventional NGK plugs, but with little bit adjustment.

    I must tell u guys that the minimum driving criteria in each experiment was more than 80 kms of drive within the city.
    The drive was on the same daily routes and the same daily timings.

    From my home at mohammad ali society to my office at Metropole around 9am in the morning. From my office back to my home around 2 pm in the afternoon. From my home to my clinic at Gulistan e johar at 7 pm in the evening and then back to home at 12 to 1 am in the night.

    In all the 3 plug gap settings experiment, the routes and timings didnt change and so was the driving style. AC was on all the time with the climate control at the same level. So i got the same amount of traffic. And i repeat......more than 80 kms of driving was done with each set of the plug gap.

    For the final confirmation i drove again with 1.5mm gap. But this time it was not with light foot. This time i drove like a normal car. I stepped on the accelerator many times......i over took many cars and i exceeded 90km/hr on the speedometer many many times. The fuel average this time is 21.5km/l approx...

    Now guys i'm not sure what is the OEM plug gap for Aqua..... couldnt find it in the manual....but i think it should be around 1.5mm or close to that.....can anyone plez confirm??

    I'm not planning to go for a 2mm gap experimentation............Why???? Or should i...???

    Mere ustaad mohtaram.....mere marhoom khaloo (Allah un ko jannat naseeb karay), apnay zamanay k buhat barray or achay mechanic thay. Maine cars ka mechanical work unhi se seekha.....apne specialization k liye USA janay se pehle. Unho ne mujhe sikhaya tha k plug gap ki minimum setting jo tum rakh sakte ho wo .5mm hai. Is se kam mat rakhna warna spark itna weak ho ga k shayd fuel complete burn na ho sake. or plug gap ko 1.5 mm se exceed mat karna. warna ho sakta hai k wide gap ki waja se plug misfire kar jaye or engine ki missing shuru ho jaye...

    It is important to note that it is not advisable to alter the preset gap in iridium plugs. So i have to use the NGK plugs for this experiment.

    What i have concluded for all the guys complaining about decrease fuel average for some reasons...

    1. Plug gap adjustment is critical. Most of the mechanics do not adjust the gaps using a feeler guage therefore optimal fuel efficiency cannot be achieved.

    2. Do not use tyres and rims that exceed the recommended specs. Heavier tyres and rims do consume more fuel.

    3. Use a good quality of air filter. A proper ratio of the mixture of fuel and air is a must for good fuel average.

    4. Get ur car serviced at least once a month. Mud and the dust tends to collect in the suspension and tyres increasing friction and resistance as well. A clean suspension is another plus for a good fuel economy.

    Discussion open to all the mates....

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    What adjustment would b perfect for the iridium plugs ?


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    Iridium plugs are pre adjusted. It is advisable not to alter the gap of the iridium plugs. You just put them in place as they are. I have never altered the gap or never tried to alter the gap in iridium plugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahbaz_shah View Post
    Salam to All....well guys thanx for waiting for my experimentation. The delay for posting my experience was because i just wanted to be sure of my results.

    What i experimented was i took out the iridium plugs from my aqua about a week ago. I was getting around 20km/l with those plugs on my daily usual driving on the same routes and almost at the same time. So i removed the denso Iridium plugs FK-16R from my ride and i replaced them with the Conventional NGK plugs BKR6E.

    I used a feeler guage and set the plug gap at 0.5 mm. Thats 0.020 inch.
    I drove the car on the usual daily routes at the daily routine timings with the normal light foot that i usually use. The fuel average that i got was 18km/l approx.

    I again took out the plugs. The plug gap this time was widened to 1mm using feeler guage. Thats .040 of an inch.
    Again i drove the car at the same routes with same daily timings getting the same amount of traffic that i usually do. The fuel average this time was 20km/l...

    I took out the plugs again. The gap this time was adjusted at 1.5mm. Thats .060 of an inch.
    Again the same daily practice of driving..................................and the fuel average jumped to 22km/l....

    This average that i got was without iridium plugs, using the conventional NGK plugs, but with little bit adjustment.

    I must tell u guys that the minimum driving criteria in each experiment was more than 80 kms of drive within the city.
    The drive was on the same daily routes and the same daily timings.

    From my home at mohammad ali society to my office at Metropole around 9am in the morning. From my office back to my home around 2 pm in the afternoon. From my home to my clinic at Gulistan e johar at 7 pm in the evening and then back to home at 12 to 1 am in the night.

    In all the 3 plug gap settings experiment, the routes and timings didnt change and so was the driving style. AC was on all the time with the climate control at the same level. So i got the same amount of traffic. And i repeat......more than 80 kms of driving was done with each set of the plug gap.

    For the final confirmation i drove again with 1.5mm gap. But this time it was not with light foot. This time i drove like a normal car. I stepped on the accelerator many times......i over took many cars and i exceeded 90km/hr on the speedometer many many times. The fuel average this time is 21.5km/l approx...

    Now guys i'm not sure what is the OEM plug gap for Aqua..... couldnt find it in the manual....but i think it should be around 1.5mm or close to that.....can anyone plez confirm??

    I'm not planning to go for a 2mm gap experimentation............Why???? Or should i...???

    Mere ustaad mohtaram.....mere marhoom khaloo (Allah un ko jannat naseeb karay), apnay zamanay k buhat barray or achay mechanic thay. Maine cars ka mechanical work unhi se seekha.....apne specialization k liye USA janay se pehle. Unho ne mujhe sikhaya tha k plug gap ki minimum setting jo tum rakh sakte ho wo .5mm hai. Is se kam mat rakhna warna spark itna weak ho ga k shayd fuel complete burn na ho sake. or plug gap ko 1.5 mm se exceed mat karna. warna ho sakta hai k wide gap ki waja se plug misfire kar jaye or engine ki missing shuru ho jaye...

    It is important to note that it is not advisable to alter the preset gap in iridium plugs. So i have to use the NGK plugs for this experiment.

    What i have concluded for all the guys complaining about decrease fuel average for some reasons...

    1. Plug gap adjustment is critical. Most of the mechanics do not adjust the gaps using a feeler guage therefore optimal fuel efficiency cannot be achieved.

    2. Do not use tyres and rims that exceed the recommended specs. Heavier tyres and rims do consume more fuel.

    3. Use a good quality of air filter. A proper ratio of the mixture of fuel and air is a must for good fuel average.

    4. Get ur car serviced at least once a month. Mud and the dust tends to collect in the suspension and tyres increasing friction and resistance as well. A clean suspension is another plus for a good fuel economy.

    Discussion open to all the mates....
    Very nice info bhai.
    Totally a new thing for me.
    Thanks for sharing ur experience

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    That was big experiment.
    Ambient temperature plays important part in milage. Today in the morning the temperature was 32 C and was getting 25 km/l. During afternoon drive on the same route got 20km /l at 42C.

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    Orignal Denso plug are pre gaped at 1.1mm

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    Thanx Bilal Yaseen and thanx kashif. Yes kashif u are absolutely right. The Denso and NGK plugs both are gaped at 1.1 mm. I'm still driving my ride at 1.5 mm gaped plugs. This time stepping more on the accelerator and getting 21.2 km/l after approx 100 km drive.
    Does anyone here has any idea or info about the OEM plug gap for aqua?? I guess it should be around 1.5mm (+- 0.2mm).

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    @shahbaz_shah

    Thank you for sharing your spark plug gap adjustment experiment. Before, I never knew why the mechanics used to hit on top of the spark plug to adjust gap settings.
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    Coming to the Final Conclusion....

    It is important to understand that the hybrid system works in a narrow range of RPM. Increasing the pressure on accelerator opens up the throttle body thus increasing RPM and shifting the vehicle on petrol.

    When the vehicle is on petrol, your car should be so tuned up so as to make the optimal utilization of given resources (Air and Fuel Mixture and its combustion). It will give a good mileage even if u are driving most of the times on petrol with the eco mode on.

    1. If the plugs are not properly gaped, you will loose a couple of km/l on your mileage.

    2. If you are using heavier tyres and rims or car not properly serviced, again you will loose a couple of km/l on fuel economy.

    3. If the air filter is choked or u are not using the proper air filter, again there's a loss of couple of km/l in mileage.

    If in the above 3 points, any 2 or all the three are missing, then instead of getting around 22km/l in this hot beating sun, you are likely to get 15-17 km/l on your odometer.

    I hope this makes task easier for all those complaining of low mileage.....

    If all of the above 3 points are OK in your vehicle and theres no other apparent fault, then simply RESET the hybrid settings of your vehicle through a scanner...

    Prayers for ALL.....

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    My daily route is from bahadurabad to tower via saddar that is around 8kms oneway
    Total 16kms ( all in rush hour ) on this route i cannot get more then 15km/l no matter what i do

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahbaz_shah View Post
    Coming to the Final Conclusion....

    It is important to understand that the hybrid system works in a narrow range of RPM. Increasing the pressure on accelerator opens up the throttle body thus increasing RPM and shifting the vehicle on petrol.

    When the vehicle is on petrol, your car should be so tuned up so as to make the optimal utilization of given resources (Air and Fuel Mixture and its combustion). It will give a good mileage even if u are driving most of the times on petrol with the eco mode on.

    1. If the plugs are not properly gaped, you will loose a couple of km/l on your mileage.

    2. If you are using heavier tyres and rims or car not properly serviced, again you will loose a couple of km/l on fuel economy.

    3. If the air filter is choked or u are not using the proper air filter, again there's a loss of couple of km/l in mileage.

    If in the above 3 points, any 2 or all the three are missing, then instead of getting around 22km/l in this hot beating sun, you are likely to get 15-17 km/l on your odometer.

    I hope this makes task easier for all those complaining of low mileage.....

    If all of the above 3 points are OK in your vehicle and theres no other apparent fault, then simply RESET the hybrid settings of your vehicle through a scanner...

    Prayers for ALL.....
    Shahbaz Shah; i want to mention one more thing here and its my observation in lahore as the fuel (super or hi-octane) prices are lower now-a-days; their quality is not good even you cannot be confirmed whether octane number of Hi-octane differs from that of super or not; it absolutely effects fuel consumption.

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    How to reset hybrid system of aqua ?

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