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    Default Review: Suzuki GS150 "Tour-King"

    AoA Everybody.

    Its often the simplest of things that bring the most happiness in life. I never truly understood that sentiment until I got an opportunity to get my hands on a motorcycle.

    Boy! How have I been living all these years? is this for real? can one get from A to B and have fun at the same time? these were some of the questions that immediately crossed my mind.

    Then there is the feeling of some serious horsepower between one's legs. more than one horsepower if you get what I am saying .

    I was hooked. boots in the breeze, wind in my face, with the sweet sound of a high revving engine. AND THEN IT HIT ME "I WAS BORN TO RIDE A MOTORCYCLE".

    The current crop of street-bikes just didn't tickle my fancy. the heavier ones were a little too heavy as I still have a steep learning curve to climb before graduating to a multi-piston machine. Anyways, after an exhaustive search, I found the one that fit the bill. Suzuki GS150 "Tour-King".

    Review: Suzuki GS150 "Tour-King" - Pic2 zps96e12d49

    Features:

    1. 150 cc of displacement
    2. 12 Brake Horsepower
    3. Front Disk, Rear Drum
    4. Plenty of Luggage carrying ability (Trunk and Panniers)
    5. External 12-volt power outlet (waterproof).
    6. Secondary 12-volt power outlet (inside rear trunk)
    7. Self Start
    8. Handle Bar Pouch
    9. 13 liter fuel-tank

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    What I like:

    1. The bike's suspension is really superb. Its quiet comfortable even for longer than usual rides.

    2. The bike's rake and trail are really designed for long and easy riding. the higher rake/trail stabilizes the bike even at really slow speeds.

    3. Front disk brakes make stopping this monster a breeze. rear drums are only "so,so" at it.

    4. 12 volt-power outlet on handlebar allow usage of GPS navigation equipment (or a cell-phone or MP3 player). yes! one can also use it to recharge stuff.

    5. Wide seat offers plenty of room for a comfortable seating experience for the buns.

    6. wide and high angle handlebars truly help in eliminating the fatigue from arms and shoulders

    7. Self start is a real plus cause kick-starting is just exhausting and grows really old really fast. plus my knees don't feel as young as they did 15 years back.

    8. back-rest for the pillion rider also makes it quiet a pleasurable experience for the one sitting behind you. in turn, it makes the whole ride even more pleasurable for you as you hear less complains.

    9. the internal 12-volt power outlet (housed inside the rear trunk) makes it possible to use it as a power source for the camping lights and recharge your laptop and stuff like that.

    10. the handle bar pouch is a just a dream accessory. it makes it very convenient to place the most/often needed stuff such as cell-phone, hands-free, cigarettes and lighters within reach. the best part is that you can take it off, wash and put it back on if it gets dirty.....by the way, I'm not suggesting that you make/attend phone calls and smoke while driving a motorcycle.

    11. the bike is quiet soundless for its engine size. even while revving the engine, it hardly makes any sound. unlike Hondas that make your brain explode inside your head when somebody crosses you by.

    12. the bike's engine is also very smooth. hardly any vibration at any RPM level. unlike the current crop of street-bikes that even shake your teeth loose.

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    Things that I don't like: (most of the stuff that I am about to mention are probably linked to poor quality control)

    1. the frame of the bike is already starting to rust. rust spots are growing everywhere. even some of the nuts and bolts have decided to join in.

    2. the rear drums make a strange sound when applying brake pressure. the authorized Suzuki mechanic told me that it happens with most of them. nothing to worry about. his advice: learn to live with it. this world isn't prefect. wow! thats deep.

    3. the texture on the handlebar grips kinda bits into my hands. don't like it one bit.

    4. some of the markings here and there (specially on the controls) are pretty much vanishing all by themselves. poor quality ink/stamping I guess.

    5. poor quality of paint. almost everywhere you can see signs of paint saying "good bye buddy, its been a short but fun ride".

    6. the trip-meter isn't working anymore. I'm not even sure that it worked from the beginning. I am just assuming that it worked.

    7. the bike's got a habit of breaking rpm and clutch cables like its some sort of a national responsibility.

    8. you'll surely be surprised to learn how fast it eats rear brake shoes. the authorized mechanic told me that it happens because of the heavy weight of this bike and takes some serious braking power to stop it in its tracks.

    9. the slim tyres look fugly. as per my discussions with my mechanic, if I install fatter tyres, the bike will become sluggish. I do plan to install fatter tyres cause these one are just destroying the look of this otherwise handsome monster.

    10. the muffler which does an amazing job of reducing the exhaust sound gets really hot to touch (learned it the hard way on several occasions). the company should have provided the muffler with a heat shield.

    11. the 12-volt power outlet which are otherwise very useful are limited in their capacity. they only allow 110-watts of electricity which is only useful for electronics and not enough for cooking/heating equipment. it would have really neat if I could power a small electric stove or a heater.

    12. the side covers aka tapas have no locking mechanism. imagine the level of trust held by company in our society.

    13. chain makes a funny griding sound at low speeds. the mechanic says that its pretty normal with chain driven bikes and I must oil this chain and its sprockets regularly but still, if I oil it too much then I get drips and runs from sides of the chain cover which is just nasty.

    14. there is no beeper installed with the turn signals. at times one forgets that the left/right turn signal is on. a beeper would have been nice.

    15. the brake light in the rear trunk was really weak/dim. I had the OEM (factory installed) replaced with an aftermarket bulb and now it shines like it should.

    16. the locking mechanism on the rear trunk and panniers should have their own keys. a single key for the ignition, side lock, fuel tank, rear trunk and pannier is just asking for trouble. too many locks with one key will wear the key out sooner than it should.

    17. the fuel selector is all wrong. turning it up means moving the reserve arrow down, who can remember all that? I still have to ask the mechanic to turn it to "ON" position. is there any way to permanently disable this contraption?

    18. the turn signal and neutral indicators are really dim and hard to see in normal day light.

    19. I just fail to understand the thought behind the "Engine-On" switch in the handlebar. why turning the key ignition switch to "ON" isn't enough? why over complicate a pretty simple process?

    20. the rear trunk does not have a parking light. only brake lights. why?

    21. bike is super heavy. putting it on center/double stand requires one hell of an effort. in full load, it requires two people to lift and pull to put it on double stand. in fact, the double stand has already been welded once. just imagine seeing it break into two pieces by the sheer weight of the bike.

    22. the cheap quality horn works at times and at times it totally refuses to do anything.

    23. the cheap quality headlight is useful for nothing. the beam is no way near safe enough to drive even in absolute darkness and on top of that it scatters too a degree (360 degrees to be precise) that even a huge pot hole in the middle of the road is impossible to spot.

    Review: Suzuki GS150 "Tour-King" - Pic6 zps0c8a6737

    Final Thought:

    With all its faults, the bike is super fun. due to its heavy weight, it runs smoother, quieter and without any road/ground and engine vibrations. literally, driving it at 80-90km/h feels like you are cruising at a comfortable 40km/h.

    the company is offering a superb product here. they just need to improve upon the quality of stuff that are putting in this bike. the engine is powerful enough that it can easily take two riders and loads of other stuff to any height a motorcycle can/should. however the cheap quality of accessories such as cables, brake shoes, tyres and stuff are a major turn off.

    The bike has the potential to become the best locally manufactured touring bike however the company should invest in quality instead of relying on poor quality parts to lower its price in a bid to attract more customers.

    Regards.

    Some more pics of the Tour-King with the windshield

    and...some more pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12gauge View Post
    well....you can always call them and find out.

    Regards.
    I have the number and have called multiple times a day for about 10 days, but he does answer

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    Kisi ko lahore kay baray mein pata chal k kahan se yeh kaam karwaya ja sakta hai .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12gauge View Post
    I am sorry buddy for not replying earlier. How did I miss this post? Kindly accept my apologies. Sure, I would love to talk to you and help out in any way I can. please check your email. I have sent you my contact number.

    Regards.
    Dear wat is the advantage of air pressure rear suspension shocks???

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

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    Dude, thank you. Thank you for not writing this review in roman urdu. Dont have anything against urdu, but wen both are mixed, well, you get the picture. (headaches)
    And this has to be the best ever review on pakwheels I've ever seen, not because it glorifies the GS 150, but because that is how reviews are supposed to be written, everything clearly supported by pictures and timely followups of queries.
    MR suzuki eh? I begged those ******** like a year ago to give me the same mods and they didn't know jack sht what I was talking about. I had to repeat "sadddlebags" three times till I gave up. So like most good things in this place, I had to get my hands dirty and made my own mods, no where as clean and nice as yours I'm afraid.
    Here is a pic....
    Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1326855Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1326856

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    MashAllah nice Bike...
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/motorcycle-travel-diaries/277725-sober-riders-visit-khunjerab-adventurous-way-via-nori-pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by the47man View Post
    Dude, thank you. Thank you for not writing this review in roman urdu. Dont have anything against urdu, but wen both are mixed, well, you get the picture. (headaches)
    And this has to be the best ever review on pakwheels I've ever seen, not because it glorifies the GS 150, but because that is how reviews are supposed to be written, everything clearly supported by pictures and timely followups of queries.
    MR suzuki eh? I begged those ******** like a year ago to give me the same mods and they didn't know jack sht what I was talking about. I had to repeat "sadddlebags" three times till I gave up. So like most good things in this place, I had to get my hands dirty and made my own mods, no where as clean and nice as yours I'm afraid.
    Here is a pic....
    Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1326855Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1326856
    That is one awesome bike bro. MashAllah! I specially like the custom crash/engine guard. I am working on an almost similar design myself and was kinda worried how it would turn out. now after seeing almost similar thing in your bike, I am now pretty much relaxed that it would look alright.

    Did you buy prefabricated or its a custom fabrication? what are the overall dimensions of the crash/engine guard?

    Regards.

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    @dr.omair has also placed a very comfortable (legs relaxing) crash gaurds as well.. the help a lot it bike is dropped.

    Quote Originally Posted by 12gauge View Post
    That is one awesome bike bro. MashAllah! I specially like the custom crash/engine guard. I am working on an almost similar design myself and was kinda worried how it would turn out. now after seeing almost similar thing in your bike, I am now pretty much relaxed that it would look alright.

    Did you buy prefabricated or its a custom fabrication? what are the overall dimensions of the crash/engine guard?

    Regards.
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/motorcycle-travel-diaries/277725-sober-riders-visit-khunjerab-adventurous-way-via-nori-pass

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    Great, now go through this thread and change rims
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...loy-rims-gs150
    If better were within, better would come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_k View Post
    Great, now go through this thread and change rims
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...loy-rims-gs150
    Well......I would only consider alloy rims (for GS-150) if I ever decide to totally kill the awesome "Retro" looks of this beautiful machine.

    Regards.

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    Salam Tariq Sahab
    remember we once talked of getting something similar to this?
    Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1327593

    the problem is that although much simpler, this design tempts you to have your feet permanently placed forwarded, something that can be dangerous in city premises, where cd70s and qingqis are going to cut u from all directions and u will not have enough time to shift your feet back and slam on brakes

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    herez what i did to add an engine guard along with the option of forward foot rests
    i have added details on the pictures to explain what i did
    Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1327594Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1327595Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1327596Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1327597Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1327598



    by folding the footrests, i can avoid the temptation to place my feet forward at all times, and use it only when needed (which is either when im in 5th gear on a clear road or inshaAllaah on highways next spring )
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    the text on the last picture is tiny and im afraid u'll have to zoom/enlarge it to read it, but please make sure u do as it carries important information

    Regards

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    @dr.omair

    Bro, your idea is very practical and I can see that it should offer good amount of comfort during long rides (specially when one doesn't anticipate any sudden braking).

    if you want me to be honest about it then I guess....your idea may be a little too practical. a foldable foot rest at the very ends of the crash guard would make you place your feet too far apart. secondly, I don't know how to put it without sounding like "Simon Cowell" but this folding foot rest solution could have been designed just a little less painful for the eyes to see. lols!

    Regards.

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    Sir, i will agree on this solution as not being cosmetically appealling, i m still looking for a cleaner set of footrests

    i took this idea from a harley cruiser and here is a pic for reference
    Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1327786
    please notice how high and wide apart the footrests have been placed. believe me, coz im saying this with experience, this is the most comfortable position u can achieve. dont get it too high as to shift the centre of gravity of your bike, but it should be higher than the level of your stock footrests.....remember how when our legs get tired of sitting for too long on office chairs, we lift them up and put them at a higher level(to return the pooled blood back to the circulation)? thats the idea

    Quote Originally Posted by 12gauge View Post
    a foldable foot rest at the very ends of the crash guard would make you place your feet too far apart.
    i would beg to differ on this point. the wider apart your feet are, the more comfortable it gets.
    and herez my argument for that

    before adding the footrests, i simply placed my feet on the points shown in the picture, marked by arrows
    Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1327794Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1327795

    these points are pretty much in line with the stock footrests
    i experimented for a couple of days to find out how it feels.
    believe me, i didnot feel much difference/relaxation at all
    Once, simply held my feet in air wide apart, and quickly realized that this was infact the ideal position. the feet need to be wider apart to allow for maximum relaxation and comfort
    on the other hand, within 2-3 days, i noticed that the chrome on the bars was getting scratched because of my shoes
    so i understood that the place where u would place your feet has to be rubber, not chrome

    i would once again repeat that my footrests more on the uglier/rougher side, but their positioning (their height as well as width from each other) is extremely comfortable
    as for the design that ur going for, i thought of it too, but it is just too retro for a gs150. although gs150 is a retro bike as well, it represents the designs of 80s and early 90s, while the engine guard u've chosen is more of 60s and 70s stuff. in my opinion (and by looks of @the47man's bike) , i would probably not go for it
    but yes, it does suit older and classical bikes such as the pic below
    Review Suzuki GS150 &quotTourKing" -1327808

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr.omair View Post
    the text on the last picture is tiny and im afraid u'll have to zoom/enlarge it to read it, but please make sure u do as it carries important information

    Regards

    I zoomed it it blurrs..


    Quote Originally Posted by dr.omair View Post
    Sir,

    .remember how when our legs get tired of sitting for too long on office chairs, we lift them up and put them at a higher level(to return the pooled blood back to the circulation)? thats the idea
    Regards
    Ok now thats some thing totally doctors know about, and yes I sit around 14 hours on work days and I feel like heaven when I strch my legs on the desk which is even higher then my sitting chair... lolxxx



    Quote Originally Posted by 12gauge View Post
    I don't know how to put it without sounding like "Simon Cowell" but this folding foot rest solution could have been designed just a little less painful for the eyes to see. lols!

    ha h hahahhaha h tariq sahab you have a good taste of humor lolxx ... I agree that for our eye who dont see these things to Often its hard to accept to have a 'Foot Rest' on a crash bar lolxxx .... but believe me I didnt noticed a foot peg when I saw the pics first time in the email doctor Sb sent me, as he camfloged it with silver paint .... I may adopt this idea to design the crash bars for the road master in such a way that they look appealing (less painful for eyes ) and give same relaxing pleasure as well....
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/motorcycle-travel-diaries/277725-sober-riders-visit-khunjerab-adventurous-way-via-nori-pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr.omair View Post
    please notice how high and wide apart the footrests have been placed. believe me, coz im saying this with experience, this is the most comfortable position u can achieve. dont get it too high as to shift the centre of gravity of your bike, but it should be higher than the level of your stock footrests.....remember how when our legs get tired of sitting for too long on office chairs, we lift them up and put them at a higher level(to return the pooled blood back to the circulation)? thats the idea

    i would beg to differ on this point. the wider apart your feet are, the more comfortable it gets.
    and herez my argument for that
    Bro, the best thing I like about a healthy argument/debate is that it bring out the most useful information which can benefit many besides benefiting the one engaged in the argument.

    anyways, I agree that feet are to be placed higher than stock to offer comfort. however If you search on the Internet or notice common behavior, you'll find that most people in order to relax their legs/feet always place them higher and closer together. I would say that it is almost natural behavior to lift our legs up and put them closer. here are a couple of pictures for your convenience:

    Review: Suzuki GS150 "Tour-King" - stock photo young businessman in black suit relaxing at office with legs up 39405361

    Review: Suzuki GS150 "Tour-King" - thumb COLOURBOX4395296

    Review: Suzuki GS150 "Tour-King" - stock footage close up of a man s legs relaxing by his computer

    Now I'm not a medical expert such as your kind self therefore I cannot say anything about it using medical grounds however from what I have observed that the tendency to relaxing legs has always been legs up and close to each other. I could be wrong therefore I am totally open to opinions that are "otherwise".

    my second point against this idea is that with feet spread apart, you are in fact adding a pendulum to your bike which is based on the a principle of physics. the greater the distance (where force is being applied) and the point of rotation, the greater the effect of that force in shifting the center of gravity by exerting more kinetic energy (lever action).

    now I sure that you'll ask me that why is it those heavy duty harley's haven't thought about it. I would say: dr. Sahib, a harley or a similar class cruise bike is usually pretty heavy and small distance in their case doesn't matter much whereas GS-150 is a minuscule bike (compared to super heavy bikes) so whatever solution we come up with, it has to be modified given the parameters and the constraints posed by our small sized machine.

    here is a food for thought: kindly notice where the foot pegs are in relation to the handle bars. you'll get the idea that foot pegs are always designed in relation to the maximum spread of the handle bars. because whenever sudden cornering is concerned, your whole body rocks side ways to balance the bike and the whole body needs to act as a single unit. therefore all extending organs such as hands, shoulders and feet are kept in line.

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    If you closely at above picture, you'll find that the foldable foot pegs are designed to open inside and inline with the stock foot pegs and collapse backup inline with the crash guard. thats what I call clever engineering.

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    I hope with these pictures I am able to get my point across. in line always, however if you want to induce better cornering ability at the cost of straight line stability, you can always make your foot pegs placed closer together as in sport/track bikes. But never the other way around.

    in my humble opinion, any solution to a given problem should not come at the cost of altering the original equation by introducing another variable.

    Quote Originally Posted by dr.omair View Post
    as for the design that ur going for, i thought of it too, but it is just too retro for a gs150. although gs150 is a retro bike as well, it represents the designs of 80s and early 90s, while the engine guard u've chosen is more of 60s and 70s stuff. in my opinion (and by looks of @the47man's bike) , i would probably not go for it

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    you are probably right here but in my humble opinion, Suzuki GS-150 looks more like conventional retro bike than anything from the 80s or the 90s era. kindly search for Suzuki GS series bikes built from 1970-1979, you'll find almost all of them look exactly like GS-150. however if you look at Suzuki bikes from 1990 onwards, you'll find considerable changes in their structure which make them look more like sportier versions instead of cruisers.

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    Anyway, the only way to be sure if the lindby highway bars would look good or not on a GS-150 is to try one. if not, I guess....we must resort to some other design.

    Regards.

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    hmmmmmmmmm...... you know who is benifitting from your both disccusion ? its my cruiser ... lolx
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    Quote Originally Posted by vickytulla View Post
    I zoomed it it blurrs
    I basically wrote, that after adding the guard, I noticed that it would hit the front fender's mudguard on hard braking. So i had to replace it with a longer and flatter mudguard (known locally as dumchi wala chikkarh mat). If u zoom into that last picture, u can see the stock mudguard replaced

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12gauge View Post
    the tendency to relaxing legs has always been legs up and close to each other. I could be wrong therefore I am totally open to opinions that are "otherwise".

    my second point against this idea is that with feet spread apart, you are in fact adding a pendulum to your bike which is based on the a principle of physics. the greater the distance (where force is being applied) and the point of rotation, the greater the effect of that force in shifting the center of gravity by exerting more kinetic energy (lever action).

    In order to put the above hypothesis to test, I conducted an experiment today. It involved driving at a constant 100 km/h, and later cornering at around 40-50 km/h, while placing my feet at various positions on the footrests to see which one is the best

    In test A, I placed my feet on the footpegs of the safeguard , which are placed higher and wider

    In test B, I placed my feet inside the safeguard on the lower bar, which basically meant lowering my feet by about 3 inches and bringing them close to the midline

    In test C, I placed my feet inside the safeguard, but on the upper bar, meaning my feet were close to midline but higher up by about 4-5 inches compared with test B

    Test D was the control, where all above speed were performed with my feet on the stock footrests
    Here are the results on a scale of 10

    TEST A
    stability at 100 km/h straight drive: 9/10
    Stability while cornering : 8/10
    Leg comfort :10 /10
    Total : 27 /30

    TEST B
    stability at 100 km /h straight drive : 10 /10
    Stability while cornering : 10 /10
    Leg comfort : 9 /10
    Total : 29 /30

    TEST C
    stability at 100 km /h straight drive : 7 /10
    Stability while cornering : 8 /10
    Leg comfort : 8 /10
    Total : 23 / 30

    TEST D(control)
    Stability at 100 /h straight drive :10 /10
    Stability while cornering :10 /10
    Leg comfort : 7/10
    Total : 27 / 30

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    Conclusion:
    While planning to add forward footrests, alot things need to be taken into consideration

    Although a higher and wider position gives u optimum comfort, it takes away some part of the stability
    Maximum stability can be achieved by moving your feet closer to the midline

    Rest i leave to brother Tariq Butt for his expert suggestions

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