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    Red face Suzuki Sprinter eco Or Raider ?

    Asalam o Alaikum
    Miene new bike khareedni hai tu kafi search k baad Suzuki Sprinter eco or suzuki raider ko shortlist kiya hai , ab mujhe samaj nahi araha k in dono mien say konsi select karon .. meri requirement Fuel average hai bus, in dono mien say fuel average kis ka acha hai ? konsi best rahay gi !.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Automotorsport_Lover View Post
    honda has used a different CDI unit to improve milage
    I was just about to laugh at this they have reduce the size of cdi which mean on higher rpm bie will not get will current which means the fuel and air will not burn efficiently and resulting in lesser mileage man get a life coming from junoon to cg and supporting cg I have driven cg euro 2 throttle respone tou aisa hai jaisi cg 125 nai koi china 70 chala rahe hai sold the cg after just 2 week of use and now a day cg carb are also being mad with cheap quality they are no longer getting import the bike which does not have perfect air/fuel ratio and don't getting full current at high rpm and not to mention doesn't get the amount air need because of being ohv you think it will give you better mileage and performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by ammarzahid View Post
    Bro read all the posts, you've misunderstood me ;-)

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    What I have learnt from my mechanic and personal experiences, following factors are the main reasons in making Suzuki bikes fuel efficient.

    1. Butterfly carburetor: Seen on the internet as well as per the experience, I have found this type of carb more fuel efficient. Mainly due to indirect throttle i.e. rider twist the butterfly which indirectly opens up the throttle needle (as per need).


    2. Battery involvement: I have seen in practical in GS-150 that if its battery is weak then it consumes more fuel. My cousin experienced this as well, he was getting 45km/lit which suddenly drops to 20km/lit. He did nothing else just replaced the faulty battery with good one and his life returned to peace.

    3. Piston diameter and valves: Off course piston and valves are major factors. What I have learnt that smaller diameter piston and smaller valves are key to fuel efficiency. And the Suzuki knows this very well (as I am talking only about Suzuki here so I am not saying others have no idea about this, peace ).

    4. Head - Smaller sized mixture intake (hole) and exhaust. From one of senior mechanic at a renown service center, I have come to know that Sprinter head has smaller than normal intake and exhaust hole which is helpful in creating more pressure inside the cylinder thus consuming the air-fuel mixture more efficiently.

    5. Little wider spark plug gape: In that very initial period when I newly got my Sprinter, I use to keep the gape same as of 70cc. Luckily I blessed with a specialist of Suzuki's and he tuned my bike and widened the plug gape. I will try to get a snap for you guys. He tuned the carb as well and other tweaks like valve adjustment and there you go. I felt great improvements like lighter ride, mileage increased from 60 - 63 km/lit to 65 -68 km/lit.
    Later on (for no reason ) I again narrowed the gape and immediately felt heavy ride so afterwards I stuck to wider gape and it has been 2 years now.

    Other factors are obvious like overall bike weight, rim, tyre size, sprockets ...etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Automotorsport_Lover View Post
    In normal driving conditions below 60kmph cd70 can also fetch 60+kmpl...

    In fact cd70 has achieved repeatedly 80+kmpl in competitions held by Honda... and yes raider/sprinter also does very good mileage... can achieve 55kmpl+ mileage at approx. 60Kmph speed easily.
    Purchased a Suzuki Sprinter eco in year 2007 from that bike i was getting Exact 70Km/L fuel average at the speed of 110Km/h on full throttle & he also gives me 80km/L when i drove it in this speed limit 0 to 60

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaudhary007 View Post
    I highly doubt that a 110cc bike would give this mileage......considering CD70 which is 72cc(69cc to be exact) gives 54km/l at max in normal city driving conditions.....and approx 58km/l in long.
    Bro, I am user of Raider since last year. Sprinter / Raider 110 has good fuel average than any other bike here in Pakistan bcz of its Carb., Alum head used and the technology used in it. It has different Carb. with butterfly mechanism and Suzuki Company has claimed that it can give u 70km/l on long route on ideal speed. You are talking about cd70 which hardly gives 58km/l or else , it has different carb. with old technology and u can't compare Sprinter 110 / Raider 110 with CD-70.

    Bhai ab to world main bikes EFI system aur ECU ke saath arahin hain and gives very good performance. Aur hum abhi tak wohi 70's ki technology use ker rahe hain... aur us per bhehas bhi ker rahe hain... why?
    ....It is supposed to be automatic, but actually you have to push this button ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by abdulrehmanrauf View Post
    5. Little wider spark plug gape: In that very initial period when I newly got my Sprinter, I use to keep the gape same as of 70cc. Luckily I blessed with a specialist of Suzuki's and he tuned my bike and widened the plug gape. I will try to get a snap for you guys. He tuned the carb as well and other tweaks like valve adjustment and there you go. I felt great improvements like lighter ride, mileage increased from 60 - 63 km/lit to 65 -68 km/lit.
    Later on (for no reason ) I again narrowed the gape and immediately felt heavy ride so afterwards I stuck to wider gape and it has been 2 years now.

    Other factors are obvious like overall bike weight, rim, tyre size, sprockets ...etc.
    This gap is also essential for achieving maximum speed out of your machine. Below is a snippet from Suzuki GD 110's service manual:
    Suzuki Sprinter eco Or Raider ? -1443129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Automotorsport_Lover View Post
    Buddy u r just being stupid messing around here, trying to show off that u know a lot... whatever u write, choose ur words carefully.

    @khanthegr8 who is a atlas honda dealer himself gave this info, how in 2013 and later euro2 models Honda has changed CDI unit and changed the carb a little too, and that has resulted in better mileage... Reducing fuel and adjusting the current makes perfect sense to achieve fuel efficiency... and thats the thing i referred to

    And im myself am pleased with good average given by my Cg... its almost giving me equal mileage than my Junoon.

    And dude... iv no need to praise a bike bcoz iv bought it, im just enjoying whats positive in it and also complaining what it lacks...

    If u havent followed all the forums, have not followed my threads and previous comments then keep ur laughs with u...

    PWs don't need ur divine knowledge... thnx
    I would say that what do you think that if @khanthegr8 hadn't shared it we would never got this info bro cg has not being launched yesterday and I have being a user of cg for four years and had use different model i.e1989,1997,2007,2001,2008,2013 so I know difference b/w models and no pw member doesn't know how personally I am so to how would i show off and I know you would be A ahl fun boy who thinks that"honda hai tou acha is ho ga" I had seen many ahl fanboys like you once they use to say that the sound of 80's models of 125 were loud and good now they say euro 2 soft sound is killer wow could not even decide that what sound they want and say honda honda hai quality tou sirf honda de tha hai

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    I would say that what do you think that if @khanthegr8 hadn't shared it we would never got this info bro cg has not being launched yesterday and I have being a user of cg for four years and had use different model i.e1989,1997,2007,2001,2008,2013 so I know difference b/w models and no pw member doesn't know how personally I am so to how would i show off and I know you would be A ahl fun boy who thinks that"honda hai tou acha is ho ga" I had seen many ahl fanboys like you once they use to say that the sound of 80's models of 125 were loud and good now they say euro 2 soft sound is killer wow could not even decide that what sound they want and say honda honda hai quality tou sirf honda de tha hai
    Get some life dude...
    Whats ur joining date again?
    Whatever ur talking about is in ur own head... ur high or something, contribute to the thread if u can. I doubt though

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    Bhaio Raider ke rear socks kaise hain i mean comfortable hain?Aur bike long tours ke liye kaise he comfort wise
    Man's heart away from nature becomes hard.

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    Rear shocks are good in working, durable and adjustable. Problem with them is that they are relatively small in length and also have small space to work when it fitted in the bike, can easily touch the mudguard on pillion riding.

    So stock settings are not too comfortable.

    To enhance the comfort, I have done following small DIY.

    1. With the help of local jump repairer, a check-nut added to have more space for spring to work.

    2. Increase the length of springs to overcome the gape created by the check-nut.
    Step 1 n 2 were marginally helpful, jumps/spring movement enhanced thus more working more comfort.

    Other than this:

    3. I got raised the rare mudguard a bit. Dug new holes just above the original mounting holes. Doing this now mudguard is more away from tyre by an inch or so. This inch space have proven enough for me. Its 3 months now and never had a problem of touching tyre with the mudguard even with pillion rider.

    4. Lower the seat, reducing the inclined angle by cutting the brackets to half under the seat on the metal plate. That issue of slipping is now resolved. One can also simply modify the seat to achieve this.

    Quote Originally Posted by gemini85 View Post
    Bhaio Raider ke rear socks kaise hain i mean comfortable hain?Aur bike long tours ke liye kaise he comfort wise

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    Brother, Mujjy itni technical cheezon ka nahe pata.
    Mein 2008 se Suzuki Eco and Sprinter standard use kr rha hon.
    Ek mere pas hy or ek bhai pas.
    Mein weekend per 147 kilometer karta hon kabhi Eco per or kabhi Standard per.
    80-100 ki speed per jata hon or mujhy 55-60 average milti hy Eco se and Standard se 50 tak.
    Dono new bikes li thi. Dono abb bhi use krta hon. Honda 70 ko agar 90 ki speed per chlaon to wo less than 50 km karti hy ek litre mein.
    Mein 2.5 Litre petrol mein pohanchta hon. Q k 5 litre Fuel dalwa k nikalta jon or usi petrol mein monday ko wapis lahore aa jata hon

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    Quote Originally Posted by mansor View Post
    bro i recently purchase this for my younger bro from company operated showroom on one year installment plane i also see sprinter eco but accessories of eco like indicator headlight taillight is not good quality so i decided to go for raider becz its stylish
    on thing more their is no difference in fuel economy both mileage are same
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    Bro mujhe 2 cheezain bata dain
    Is ki headlight honda k tarha direct hai k battery par jaisay ybr main.
    Doosri cheez is main 4 gears hain to is main saaray gear forward shift hi hain na?


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    abdulrehmanrauf ne exact function bataya hai butterfullly carb ka is main needle indirectly raise hoti hai air ke zariya so, keep the filter clean and enjoy.
    or rahi baat mileage ki tu meray pass Suzuki sprinter sports hai purchased back in 2005 60kmpl plus deti hai agy khud samajh dar ho.app sab

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    Very good bike with respect to honda 70cc
    Its costly price is high but crome and body is good and avrage is batter then 70 cc

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    Answer of your first question is Direct from generator
    Yes all gears are to forward shift
    Quote Originally Posted by asharab.butt View Post
    Bro mujhe 2 cheezain bata dain
    Is ki headlight honda k tarha direct hai k battery par jaisay ybr main.
    Doosri cheez is main 4 gears hain to is main saaray gear forward shift hi hain na?


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    Quote Originally Posted by hamikhan View Post
    Answer of your first question is Direct from generator
    Yes all gears are to forward shift
    Thankyou


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    You are welcome my dear
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