this is a welcome news that Civics are selling for less than the company price,, here in Khi is almost 40,000 less, i guess due to year end and new shape rumors is heating up , nobody is touching civics ,, I called Honda ppl in karachi to inquire about the new 2006 civic but got disappointed to know that now the launch date is Sept 06 ,, it was mar-apr 06 before. TO all the investors (loosers),, its time to for you to bear loss ,,