CNG related problems

[mubashir100]

Hi,
I own liana 2006, company fitted CNG.I got its tappet adjusted and tuned it up, now it is going 65km with AC in city and 115Km with AC on long route. The other problem is it converts to petrol at 110km speed or sometimes at less, even the gas is there in cylinder. I am now tired of all this and thinking of changing cNG kit. Can you advise please?
I always go to suzuki workshops .

[fyq]

ocean!
sry,, but i have many responsibilities of my job and studies, so sometimes i cant handle all tht, so missed ur call an i m sorry for that!
pvr i dun think can work but as u told no time is passed after installation.... insist them to fix it , because its their responsibility.So, wen they will be OFF ... just let me know at that time. for vario... a special adv is designed
for such cars but very less ppl know abt tht....and for u can call me at the cell No. u have.

mubashir!
go for some adjustments by cng mechanic to increase milage...but DONOT change ur kit...plzzz....coz liana has the cng kit(system) tht is actually made for efi vehicles,i must say check ur stepper motor...and again do not change the kit.
thnx

[bluntknife]

@fyq
Can you tell me the details for landi renzo stap 78 timing advance processor. What is the percentage of timing advance it achieves? How does it compare with mapII advancers?

[danraza]

@fyq
salaam ... i m recently having some problems with my car on cng ... theres no such problem with the acceleration of the car just that my car is giving very low average on a full tank ... it gives around 85km ... is this ok ??
kindly tell me how i could improve my average and if i need to get my car tuned where to get it frm plss... another problem is that when my car shifts to the 2nd gear the rpm roars for like 3 seconds while i accelerate with no increase in speed what could be the problem in that? also please tell me which is the best place to get my car tued properly frm..

[fyq]

blunktknife!
Landi renzo's advancer are finished from the marketnow... there are no more original ones ! and we cant compare them except their performance...and that varies in evry installation....percentage wise...40% and more advancement is achieved by them.

danraza !
u dint mention ur car...which car do u have... ?
thnx

[psykosonik]

Hey one more quiestion, what is an advancer? is it possible to install with an old kit and daewoo racer?

[danraza]

@fyq i have honda city modle 2000

[Vaqas1]

Is this Normal?

Ok i have charade 85 the engine is fine because it was recently overhauled.

I got Orysa Kit in the car the problem i am facing is the car runs fine in the city with 1 or 2 people onboard but on main road or steep slope or hilly area and around 4 people in the car it feels as if there is no power in the engine it just kinda reduces its power.

And also with 4 people on board it will be hard to cross 100 KMPH.

Is this because its just a 1000cc car or i have to get gas setting checked?

CNG average is around 220 KM per cyl on main.

Plugs were recently changed now my mechanic blocked the air filter enterance by 75% i guess is there a way to increase the engine power?

By installing 2 tip plugs or some thing any kind of sugestions will be welcomed.

[Vaqas1]

yaar ek tu help mango tu koi help nai deta all are here for chit chat oh jagoo.

[fyq]

dnraza!
first of all, show ur car to mechanic and ask wt he says, and inquire 3 mechanics and tell me their suggestions, so tht i may able to find out the real matter.

vaqas!
sry man for late reply,
well u know ur car's milage is excellent...and for power increasing...2 tiop plugs with performancve cable can help. take out some time and show me ur car...so tht the steps tht are to be taken shud be appropraite.

[venus2008]

Is it advisable to install a CNG kit to New born Honda Civic prosmatic Oriel? Does the kit needs to include a advancer ? What should be approximate price? Does it effect cars suspension?Any recommemnded workshop in Karachi?

[Hassan_2005]

Salamz..
fyq : i have a cuore cx eco ff cng .. i am not satisfied with the pick and the average .. which iz 80 with ac in city

i have heard abt the advancer and all ppl installing in ff cng cars such as alto and cuore . shud i install them ?
wht shud i do plz help any gud work shop in khi . ?

[Vaqas1]

fyq how about installing 4 Tip bosch plugs? or 2 tip will be fine?

I was thinking of installing 4 tip plugs with better plug wires 2ndly do i have to change the coil of the car as well?

And do we have performance wires available anywhere in pindi/isb?

[wittycranium]

@fyq

is there a difference between advancing the spark at map or at crank position sensor? (i don't know what i am talking about, but i think u'll understand)

i went to install cng kit today and they are offering

a- landi renzo kit (original/Italy)
b- landi renzo advancer Stap 100/2 (they say its advances at crank and not at map)
c- landi renzo brazil emulator

for PKR 47,000/=
but with advancer at map only 42,500/-

can u explain to me what they r talking about and what should i go for???

need urgent help?

[fyq]

venus!
no problems at all! and no refering to any workshop as well(i dont know about any mechanic in khi)

hassan!
i also have cuore,after markt cng(fitted by me) and u know wht it costs me per km nowadaz? 1.5 on lacal, and 1.3 on long routes ... and NO ENHANCEMENT is connected...do u think now tht ur car needs an advancer...it easily touch 120kmph on cng with 5 persons on board+50L filled cylinder...and max 145 kmph...i dont think CUORE or alto needs adavncer...u shud go for tune ups.

vaqas!
2 tip ar enuff with performance cables...no cahng o coil is needed..and watchout the higher temprature(if make problem)...and u can find such performance things at bau mohalla and melody shops..
wittycranium!
well frankly speaking landi renzo advancer are now not imported...and either they have old stock/or fake....2ndly which car do u have??? then i'll be able to tell to wt 2 install.
thnx

[dynamicallyStatic]

Just to be clear, performance wires and plug wires.. are these the same or different?

[fyq]

Dynamicallystatic!
performance wires are performance parts and plug wired is typically plug wires, so we can say as "performaqnce plugs wires" to be more clear

[hassan79]

@fyq AOA

I just bought a 97 Civic Vti with 55 cylinder It gives me 100 KM on local and 125 KM on long is this fine cuz it cost me Aprox. 415 Rs (@48 Rs previous rate) to full the tank. 4.15 P/KM is i think expensive what do u think and suggest some measures to over come the issue ThankX in advance.

[fyq]

hassan!
W.S!
well, it a lil bit expensive.. and can be increased.. but first without knowing tht wt is situation under the hood, i cant suggest anything rightly.
first tell me abt tune up time, plug gaps, extras(if done), wt is redone,comments by mechanic... these things can help me to help u for sure
thnx and welcome

[Vaqas1]

I dont understand if i use 2 tip or 4 tip i will face the car heating problem?

2ndly how much difference there is between 2 tip and 4 tip i mean why not go for 4 tip they are short in market but atleast i will feel some difference.