Grease

[tintin1]

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[Xulfiqar]

Sir, 5w-40 is the oil that can be used almost in every vehicle. From 660cc cars to 5000cc heavy diesel vehicles.
Do we have same kind of grease also that can be used everywhere in the car? 0-ngli, 1-ngli, 2-ngli or 3-ngli or any universal type?

I've heard that even Clutch & Race Wires also have some white colored very thin grease applied on their surfaces for their smooth working. Is it correct?

newer cars dont have any grease fittings anymore, none is applied anywhere. The only greasing points remaining are the caliper slide pins on floating calipers but that is not a DIY job if you are not upto the task and its only done on brake service time anyway.

control cables are lined with nylon and a coat of wax is applied to them for smooth working. Do not apply any generic petroleum grease on them as they can bind and sieze.

[drag80]

There are still some parts which require greasing. For example I sent my driver for car service. Suzuki Swift brand new. The stupid man washed the engine with pressure washer. The grease between the clutch slave cylinder and clutch folk washed away and the clutch started to produce strange noises as if something is gonna break any moment. I took to Suzuki Company who without checking said the sound coming from gear box and opened the entire gear box lubricated certain parts took entire day.

The moment I left the workshop and the engine achieved its operating temperature the same sound again. Then I diagnosed the problem my self opened the slave cylinder my self and applies liqui moli grease. Now the works like a charm. However, the car has developed certain other problem due to opening of the gearbox.

I have learnt the hard way that first of all person should diagnose the problem himself. Never depend on these stupid mechanics.

[tintin1]

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[Hashim11]

What to use for plastic gears lubrication?

[margallar]

What to use for plastic gears lubrication?

Where are these gears?

[Hashim11]

Where are these gears?

It's in the split a/c air flow blades.
They make sound not that much, but at night it's quiet noticeable and annoying too.

reference pic.

[margallar]

I think silicone grease should do the trick

[Xulfiqar]

What to use for plastic gears lubrication?

silicone grease - or a wax candle, some silicone greases stink

[mib642]

Any idea why bearing keeps seizing and sometimes even axle breaks due to bad bearing also suggest what grease to be used for bearing to avoid water damage and tell me what to look on blpack of grease when buying

[tintin1]

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[arzaam.bhatti]

@xulfiqar While at shahnawaz i saw this grease on their worktable, on which applications would this grease be good for?

i saw them using it even on suspension components.

[Xulfiqar]

@Xulfiqar While at shahnawaz i saw this grease on their worktable, on which applications would this grease be good for?

i saw them using it even on suspension components.

this is regular MP grease in NLGI-3 thickness, I cannot think of any modern (post 1985) mercedes benz vehicle that would take this in the suspension or even anywhere on the car at all.

If they used this on any rubber part - kiss it goodbye. The correct MB part for lubricating bushings for install is part no. 000-989-03-67

it is called installation fluid and is extremely slippery, Think of it like applying liquid soap to a bar of teflon - it is that slippery.

Next time you engage shahnawaz ltd for repair work, buy a little spray bottle of silicone spray or grease yourself, if you cannot find it then buy some "lado" soap and rub it on the bushings. Remember any petroleum on rubber = death for rubber.

btw - contact MB sindelfingen and show this picture along with a larger picture of the shop, you might get a little surprise call (dont worry it would be a welcoming one)

[Xulfiqar]

Here in pak. the only available grease is NGLI-3
Mechanics apply it everywhere in the car where its need to apply.
But technically difference parts needs different types of grease. But who bothers to know.
(Recently on this thread, Xulfiqar bhai informed that new types of car don’t have many places to apply grease. Only at couple of places).

This NGLI-3 is the standard if you buy company grease. If someone buy open or other available packs of grease, then its quality is never long lasting.
I always buy a box of grease NGLI-3 (I think 200 ml) and it costs Rs. 350.

another member (mian naseem) searched earnestly here and in the market to find NGLI-1 type of grease to apply on brake portion. but he didn't find it.

NLGI is consistency, 3 is like margarine in refrigerator, 2 is like butter at room temperature, 1 is like margarine at room termperature (it will settle its level quickly), 0 looks like super thick gear oil (its liquid), 4 looks like butter in refrigerator, 5 and 6 look and feel like soap bars.

The base oil and carrier soap of a grease are extremely important to select the purpose and life of grease.

[saboor73]

this is regular MP grease in NLGI-3 thickness, I cannot think of any modern (post 1985) mercedes benz vehicle that would take this in the suspension or even anywhere on the car at all.

If they used this on any rubber part - kiss it goodbye. The correct MB part for lubricating bushings for install is part no. 000-989-03-67

it is called installation fluid and is extremely slippery, Think of it like applying liquid soap to a bar of teflon - it is that slippery.

Next time you engage shahnawaz ltd for repair work, buy a little spray bottle of silicone spray or grease yourself, if you cannot find it then buy some "lado" soap and rub it on the bushings. Remember any petroleum on rubber = death for rubber.

btw - contact MB sindelfingen and show this picture along with a larger picture of the shop, you might get a little surprise call (dont worry it would be a welcoming one)

Lado soap?

[Xulfiqar]

Any idea why bearing keeps seizing and sometimes even axle breaks due to bad bearing also suggest what grease to be used for bearing to avoid water damage and tell me what to look on blpack of grease when buying

wheel bearings in newer cars operate at higher temperature - hence require a grease that is meant for this job. All FWD cars (except a very few early datsuns) use cartridge type double row ball bearings in the front - they come precharged with the right grease, its usually a polyurea thickened grease with above 250C melting point and stiff dose of EP additives in the base oil.

a bit older bearings (more than 5 years old) may have a lithium complex grease with EP additives and still have the 250C melting point - they work well too.

The biggest problem seen in Pakistan is fake products, this includes bearings with wrong grease, wrong seals, missing grease charge (operator was meant to fill it at install - some bearings are shipped like that because their shipping cost is lowered due to absence of flammable grease in the cargo)

some cars like suzuki mehran/khyber have 2 individual ball bearings per wheel at the front. Genuine suzuki parts are filled with disc brake high temperature wheel bearing grease and have positive radial rubber seals on them too. If you buy "konay ki dukaan" bearings - they will be generic bearings and have "some grease" in them. They also are shielded bearings - not sealed. You are supposed to use sealed bearings in the hub and replace the grease with fresh high temperature wheel bearing grease to ensure long life.

For choosing grease, look for a white square on the jar/tube - it should say GC-LB if its meant for wheel bearing and chassis lube.

Another issue is installation of bearings, loading up the wrong part can cause premature failure of the bearings - make sure the mechanic is smart.

for CV joints, choose the correct CVJ grease, its usually a lithium complex, NLGI1 EP grease with at least 3% moly content, Newer CVJ greases are now polyurea thickened, choose correctly, and do not mix polyurea grease with lithium grease as the result is complete break down of both greases.

The inner tripod CVJ does not take the black moly CVJ grease, use wheel bearing grease in it. If you have an older toyota product it may have an actual 6 ball CV joint on the inner side too - in that case use the black CVJ grease.

clamp the CV joint boots correctly with the right quantity (usually 90-100 grams for small to medium cars) and only after removing all air from the boots. My practice was to use a little sealant where the boot meets the joint or shaft - this prevented rusting and leaking while in service.

[Xulfiqar]

Lado soap?

chalo tum karachi mein ho to 101 khareedlo

[arzaam.bhatti]

this is regular MP grease in NLGI-3 thickness, I cannot think of any modern (post 1985) mercedes benz vehicle that would take this in the suspension or even anywhere on the car at all.

If they used this on any rubber part - kiss it goodbye. The correct MB part for lubricating bushings for install is part no. 000-989-03-67

it is called installation fluid and is extremely slippery, Think of it like applying liquid soap to a bar of teflon - it is that slippery.

Next time you engage shahnawaz ltd for repair work, buy a little spray bottle of silicone spray or grease yourself, if you cannot find it then buy some "lado" soap and rub it on the bushings. Remember any petroleum on rubber = death for rubber.

btw - contact MB sindelfingen and show this picture along with a larger picture of the shop, you might get a little surprise call (dont worry it would be a welcoming one)

thats really disappointing to see them using these practices, they were using it to installed the bush you see next to the grease, i might just send a email to MB and inform them of this if next time i visit and i see them using this again on any car will raise this issue.

btw other workshops such as INH also use similar grease on suspension bits, you would think that shops operating on a high scale would know this basic information but they are oblivious.

[arzaam.bhatti]

btw few months back when the other side control arms were replaced at the other workshop the factory ones that come out of the car also had grease on them.

maybe the workshop used it when removing the bushes or is the original MB lube you mentioned also yellow in color?

[Xulfiqar]

thats really disappointing to see them using these practices, they were using it to installed the bush you see next to the grease, i might just send a email to MB and inform them of this if next time i visit and i see them using this again on any car will raise this issue.

btw other workshops such as INH also use similar grease on suspension bits, you would think that shops operating on a high scale would know this basic information but they are oblivious.

yes - it is sad. You should kick up a stink honestly. I always made it a point to use correct items for repair, its what separates pros from hacks.