i dont know what kids are on here about, i only posted that driving 1.6 altis was no fun dirivng in mountains for me if compared to my civic 2005 manual.
manual is more fun to drive then any auto regardless its cvt or 4 speed auto or paddle shifter, rather giving lectures about how to drive on mountains with auto tranny try digesting the thought that manual will and always will be fun in the mountains aswell as anywhere else. manuals give you full control auto dont.