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Thread: Toyota Indus launches 5W-50 Taglon, thoughts?

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    Default Toyota Indus launches 5W-50 Taglon, thoughts?

    went to toyota cantt this saturday and they had a new oil in stock 5W-50 toyota TAGLON they were calling it. i didn't check the api ratings etc as i was i didn't have time and had brought my own oil any way. but searching online it seems its official.

    any one has any idea of the approvals of this oil and whether they are blending it locally. i dont understand why did they launch 5W-50 which is quite thick and bit unusual grade for corolla keeping in mind that the owners manual doesnt specify it. they are recommending it for altis. what happened to following manufacturers spec by the company.

    price if i remember correctly was 3600s. has any one come across this oil. i think its a positive step and finally their new cars would be able to get fully synthetic oil instead of commonly pouring petrol and grade is such that its all season unlike their 5W-30 tin offering. but the viscosity is still not really good for smaller engines.

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    This is exactly what I discussed in my previous posts like 15 days ago that Toyota is going to launch their new oil of having viscosity 5w-50.
    My friend has order this oil but it has not come to his shop yet. I will check once it comes.
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    What is the price? Cheaper or more expensive than Mobil1 5w-50??
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    Quote Originally Posted by wittycranium View Post
    What is the price? Cheaper or more expensive than Mobil1 5w-50??
    cheaper, mobil 1 5W-50 is 4800rs, so its around 1000rs cheaper, i use Mobil 1 0W-40 in my cars though, as its a better viscosity for them and more fuel efficient too.
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    Default 5w-50

    In general it is limited to certain years of engines in Porche, Saab, MB, etc. where the engine is designed to run hot and fast. Can be used in race and rally cars where although the engines are generally Honda or Toyota, the cars finish their laps running 120 degree oil temps.
    5W-50 can also be used in 4x4 vehicles that go off-road (high revs, loads) and in old Mercedes cars that have working temp higher than 110 oC. Lubricants with a big viscosity differential like 5W-50 generally suffer from high temperature High Shear problems because to get the wide swing they need a lot of viscosity improver additive, which shears with time.

    If Engine is of older design, it means the clearances between piston rings & cylinder liners are higher (120 micrometer) and also the Engine size. Hence to seal the blow by gases/ carbon soot from entering inside the crankcase a higher viscosity Oil preferably 5W-50 can be used, it also has a good low temperature/ cold cranking properties.

    Unlikely in modern Engines the size has been reduced and clearances b/w piston rings & cylinder liners are narrowed(20 - 50 micrometer). In such a case use of higher viscosity grade would not be a wise option since it would also cause increase in internal fluid friction and reduce fuel economy. Hence optimal viscosity grades would be 5W-40, 10W-40 or 10W-30, 5W-30 etc

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    could be for vigo. its way too heavy for normal use in any of the corolla variants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usman_arooq2 View Post
    could be for vigo. its way too heavy for normal use in any of the corolla variants.
    not really, they were recommending it for altis especially 11gen models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arzaam.bhatti View Post
    not really, they were recommending it for altis especially 11gen models.
    :/ can't comment anything else than :/ for indus' thinking of using special purpose engine oil viscosity in an econobox sedan. :/
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    it is SN grade so good to go. I have used Petromin 20W-50W in 2NZ-FE even in sub zero temps never had any problem and fuel economy and engine feel was awesome.

    Remember 20-50 is not going to harm Toyota Engines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by autophile View Post
    it is SN grade so good to go. I have used Petromin 20W-50W in 2NZ-FE even in sub zero temps never had any problem and fuel economy and engine feel was awesome.

    Remember 20-50 is not going to harm Toyota Engines.
    harm is reduced fuel economy and oil consumption when one shifts to a thinner oil after feeding 20w50 for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usman_arooq2 View Post
    harm is reduced fuel economy and oil consumption when one shifts to a thinner oil after feeding 20w50 for a long time.
    Not in my case. I switched to havoline formula 10-30, I also used Shell H-X7 semi synth for few years. Engine clocked 134,000, acceleration and fuel economy remained just like new in more than 10 years till I sold it.
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    i have been using duran xl in my 2003 vitz. driven on petrol. i ave used magnetic, zic xq but never gotten the same perfrmance of engine as compare to duran xl. mostly it needs to change after 15,000kms. magnetic etc had to change after 5000kms. if dis taron is better den duran xl im willing to use...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sd View Post
    i have been using duran xl in my 2003 vitz. driven on petrol. i ave used magnetic, zic xq but never gotten the same perfrmance of engine as compare to duran xl. mostly it needs to change after 15,000kms. magnetic etc had to change after 5000kms. if dis taron is better den duran xl im willing to use...
    In our dusty environment, even the best of oil filters do not work at the optimum level after 5,000 kms. So better not to use long drain expensive oils. So get the oils which are good for 5K so that you can change both oil and filter.
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