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    Default It's Vezel time, AlhamdoLillah.

    Presenting " HAWKZEL "
    Salam fellow PW's, Bought Honda Vezel Hybrid few days back. Landing in lahore in January InshAllah . Upgraded from 9th gen civic. Obviously, had to do a lot a of survey and research before finally being convinced that it was the best option to go for in 3-3.5 Million range category . Pics are from the auction house. Any questions regarding the car, feel free to ask. Main specs are :
    Honda Vezel Hybrid 2014 Base Model1.5 L Honda Earth Dreams Technology
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    Total Horsepower 152 (engine + Motor) , Vehicle weight only 1270 Kg so great weight to power ratio
    Its 5A grade , 7200km driven, 2014 manufacturedIts VEZEL time !!!  AlhamdoLillah -1511805Its VEZEL time !!!  AlhamdoLillah -1511806Its VEZEL time !!!  AlhamdoLillah -1511807The Buildup - Page 1-16
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    Quote Originally Posted by drzac View Post
    Very nice MashAllah .. yes with yen at it's lowest in almost 3 years, and our current duty structure for hybrids, I keep advising people this is the right time to get a nice JDM new model hybrid ..
    After 5 years vezel will be seen in every part of pakistan lol if they keep the same import policy
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhansari View Post
    If this is the case, then we might just have got our Vezels at the right time here are some pics for you guys.

    Last one isn't very good but that's the Vezel cruising at 65kmh on electric motor alone.


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    Is that at right side mileage .? So low ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 512a View Post
    Is that at right side mileage .? So low ?
    Bhai nai gari aye , photo se pehle pehli pehli drives ko us ka credit jata hay
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    Quote Originally Posted by 512a View Post
    Is that at right side mileage .? So low ?
    Yes that's the mileage


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    Quote Originally Posted by drzac View Post
    A3 and vezel are altogether different vehicles .. I've driven A3 , it's paddle shift response is definitely quicker than vezel, but vezel still smokes it in quarter mile although it will come down to driving as both are equally quick
    Huh? I ve driven vezel many times n have race my A3 its no where near A3 1.8turbo power n easily beat vezel by huge gaps....180hp A3 vs 150hp vezel is big difference....i can easily smokes my civic reborn but not Audi A3 1.8tfsi
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    Quote Originally Posted by salik990 View Post
    Huh? I ve driven vezel many times n have race my A3 its no where near A3 1.8turbo power n easily beat vezel by huge gaps....180hp A3 vs 150hp vezel is big difference....i can easily smokes my civic reborn but not Audi A3 1.8tfsi
    A3 does 0-100 in 7.3secs and vezel does it in 8.6secs. That clearly states that a3 is much quicker then a vezel.
    Any one would easily take an a3 over a vezel but also a3 is 1million expensive then vezel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salik990 View Post
    Huh? I ve driven vezel many times n have race my A3 its no where near A3 1.8turbo power n easily beat vezel by huge gaps....180hp A3 vs 150hp vezel is big difference....i can easily smokes my civic reborn but not Audi A3 1.8tfsi
    Maybe drzac was referring to the 1.2 Audi A3. I tried putting my Vezel through the paces (but somewhat gently, because its still not even done 200km) and I was very surprised by the power and acceleration. Interesting to know that it "smokes" the 1.8 Civic

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhansari View Post
    Maybe drzac was referring to the 1.2 Audi A3. I tried putting my Vezel through the paces (but somewhat gently, because its still not even done 200km) and I was very surprised by the power and acceleration. Interesting to know that it "smokes" the 1.8 Civic
    Yea i was suprised too tht vezel type z is quite heavy 1300kg compare to civic pros 1240kg but still was quick off the line....yes u r right think he's referring to Audi A3 1.2turbo which does 0-100kph in 10 sec.....
    My lugnuts require more torque than your Vtec can put out...

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    Oh yes guys, I did refer to 1.2 l A3 .. 1.8L is slightly quicker than vezel, vezel does 0-100 in 7.9 sec, only 1.8Audi beats it in straight line, civic, prius, c180, altis all go from 0-100 in over 9 sec
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    And what I implied was that a good driver with accurate shifts can out do an average driver on 1.8 L A3 in quarter mile as well as it's only 0.4 sec quicker from 0-100 despite having 30 extra horses
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    No offence to Audi owners, 1.8L A3 is a better vehicle than vezel in all aspects , hence the justifiable 1.5 million price difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by drzac View Post
    And what I implied was that a good driver with accurate shifts can smoke an average driver on 1.8 L A3 in quarter mile as well as it's only 0.4 sec quicker from 0-100 despite having 30 extra horses
    U r wrong buddy, .4 sec is just 0-100kph diff not in quarter mile.....i ve beaten vezel by more than 8 cars in quartermile even though the driver of vezel is much better than me as he also got honda crz 6sp manual from last two years hence he knows how to launch hybrid car in power band also audi factory claim 7.3 sec for 100kph n honda claim 8.6 sec even if u used experienced race driver it wont beat on quartermile/ 400m race as Audi A3 got 30hp more but 65nm more torque due to being turbo engine.....btw my best 0-100kph is less than 7 sec as i also beaten rx8 type S, F20b accord Sir, accord euro R n mrrc C200cgi on quartermile race....so plz dont think of vezel as faster car as it was only 2 cars faster than civic manual reborn

    No offence to all vezel owner as i also like vezel more than my A3 but dont compare the power of both r completely different car
    My lugnuts require more torque than your Vtec can put out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by salik990 View Post
    Huh? I ve driven vezel many times n have race my A3 its no where near A3 1.8turbo power n easily beat vezel by huge gaps....180hp A3 vs 150hp vezel is big difference....i can easily smokes my civic reborn but not Audi A3 1.8tfsi
    Are you sure vezel has 150bhp because i have read on google that it has 130bhp kindly provide any source which says that it has 150bhp

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    Quote Originally Posted by uzairnaveed View Post
    Are you sure vezel has 150bhp because i have read on google that it has 130bhp kindly provide any source which says that it has 150bhp
    130hp is non-hyrbid vezel which doesnt have electric motor n dual clutch 7speed automatic
    My lugnuts require more torque than your Vtec can put out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by salik990 View Post
    U r wrong buddy, .4 sec is just 0-100kph diff not in quarter mile.....i ve beaten vezel by more than 8 cars in quartermile even though the driver of vezel is much better than me as he also got honda crz 6sp manual from last two years hence he knows how to launch hybrid car in power band also audi factory claim 7.3 sec for 100kph n honda claim 8.6 sec even if u used experienced race driver it wont beat on quartermile/ 400m race as Audi A3 got 30hp more but 100nm more torque due to being turbo engine.....btw my best 0-100kph is less than 7 sec as i also beaten rx8 type S, F20b accord Sir, accord euro R n markx 300G on quartermile race....so plz dont think of vezel as faster car as it was only 2 cars faster than civic manual reborn

    No offence to all vezel owner as i also like vezel more than my A3 but dont compare the power of both r completely different car
    Oh yes bro, i do not deny the fact that 1.8L A3 is faster than vezel, and 0-100 timing for vezel is 7.9 seconds, ive personally hit this mark consistently when required and many fellow PW's have a video of it from as well ... as i said earlier, i only pointed out slight advantage can be overcome with driving skills, did not imply anything else ... A3 1.8L is faster than vezel, no argument there and a better car as well, hence the price difference noticeable too .. but where Honda has taken the lead in innovation is the overall package.. 1.5L engine, 152HP, 0-100 less than 8 sec, and gives you city mileage of around 20kmpl .... what else can one ask for in 3 million PKR to be a slightly better car and have a difference of more than 1.4 million is only due to that logo ... AUDI and of course our market structure ... So, yes, i can totally relate when you say that you like vezel more than your A3 ... peace bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by uzairnaveed View Post
    Are you sure vezel has 150bhp because i have read on google that it has 130bhp kindly provide any source which says that it has 150bhp
    Yes, 130 hp is from 1.5L engine, combine with battery and system output can hit 152hp ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by drzac View Post
    Oh yes guys, I did refer to 1.2 l A3 .. 1.8L is slightly quicker than vezel, vezel does 0-100 in 7.9 sec, only 1.8Audi beats it in straight line, civic, prius, c180, altis all go from 0-100 in over 9 sec
    No buddy vezel can't do 0-100 in 7.9secs.
    you have altered your cars tyres and rims size from 16" to 18" that is why your car might not be showing the correct speedometer reading.
    You can ask from any that whenever you increase the size of your rims you will see more speed in ur meter then the actual speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arslansohail84 View Post
    No buddy vezel can't do 0-100 in 7.9secs.
    you have altered your cars tyres and rims size from 16" to 18" that is why your car might not be showing the correct speedometer reading.
    You can ask from any that whenever you increase the size of your rims you will see more speed in ur meter then the actual speed.
    janab i am very well aware of tyre upsizing and slight speedo errors that come with it .. in my case its a 2kmph difference at speeds of 100kmph .. and you are more than welcome for a demo .. i can give you on 2 vezels, mine and my friend's .. both do it in 7.9 sec but i would request in future kindly do not outrightly reject someone's claim who actually owns and drives that car .. i have absolutely no reason or the kind of nature to be giving false information on public forums, specially about something which is my passion. hope that doesnt offend you .. its just a request
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    Quote Originally Posted by drzac View Post
    janab i am very well aware of tyre upsizing and slight speedo errors that come with it .. in my case its a 2kmph difference at speeds of 100kmph .. and you are more than welcome for a demo .. i can give you on 2 vezels, mine and my friend's .. both do it in 7.9 sec but i would request in future kindly do not outrightly reject someone's claim who actually owns and drives that car .. i have absolutely no reason or the kind of nature to be giving false information on public forums, specially about something which is my passion. hope that doesnt offend you .. its just a request
    even I dnt think vezel type Z or even base model cant do under 7.9sec coz u see tht .7 sec difference from Honda factory claim also on 18s rims n tire make it more heavier....theres page which shows vezel base hybrid (1240kg) does in 8.4 sec then vezel type x(1260) does 8.5sec then vezel type Z(1300kg) 8.6sec so u see the more weight increased the more it get slow due to more options in type z with 17s rims/tyres also.....I used to have 17s rims on my reborn civic manual on 2nd gear on stock rims it used to touch 103km/h on redline rpm but with 17s it used to do 106km/h so bigger rims also affect the speedo n again it slow down acceleration due to bigger n heavier rims/tires

    again m not saying Vezel is slow in fact I like Vezel it coz its cheaper than my A3 also more roomy/spacious than A3 faster than my civic also n give 16+km/l fuel average....again no offence to u but m correcting the fact of performance claimed by factory....

    posting the link below for others member as to not confuse with non-hybrid Vezel power figures

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    Quote Originally Posted by drzac View Post
    Oh yes bro, i do not deny the fact that 1.8L A3 is faster than vezel, and 0-100 timing for vezel is 7.9 seconds, ive personally hit this mark consistently when required and many fellow PW's have a video of it from as well ... as i said earlier, i only pointed out slight advantage can be overcome with driving skills, did not imply anything else ... A3 1.8L is faster than vezel, no argument there and a better car as well, hence the price difference noticeable too .. but where Honda has taken the lead in innovation is the overall package.. 1.5L engine, 152HP, 0-100 less than 8 sec, and gives you city mileage of around 20kmpl .... what else can one ask for in 3 million PKR to be a slightly better car and have a difference of more than 1.4 million is only due to that logo ... AUDI and of course our market structure ... So, yes, i can totally relate when you say that you like vezel more than your A3 ... peace bro
    the price difference is due to A3 being 1800cc which obviously got higher duty value compare to 1500cc and Vezel Hybrid is cheaper coz of less duty due to hybrid duty is way less compare to normal car....if u import normal Vezel 1.5 130hp it will cost u 3.5-4m due to higher duty....now u know the difference of prices
    My lugnuts require more torque than your Vtec can put out...

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