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    Default Vitz 2005, Automatic / CVT transmission question

    Hello guys.


    1st, how in the world can I know FOR SURE if the trans in my 2005 vitz is the old style automatic or the CVT?


    It has the 1.0 liter 3-cylinder engine.





    And if the tranny is the CVT, what is there to maintain in them?


    Like in normal autos, we just change / flush the ATF / change the ATF filter and things. What about the CVT? I dont know much about CVTs and don't have enough time that I go googling about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naweed View Post
    to change cvt oil you need to drain the old one first .. go to toyota motors any mechanic who hasn't change vitz gear oil will not understand how to do it .. plus the fact that its oil type is critical .. wrong type of oil can put you in trouble
    how much cvt oil needs to bev put in, after complete drainage from bolt n opening of assembly. my friend got his transmission oil chamber removed, ~ 6 litres of oil was removed. toyota cvt box comes in 4 lt packing

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    it is given in the manual .. every car has different quantity plus the same oil is available in 1 litre cans as well
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    change CVT fluid every 40K in Pakistan - CVT generates a ton of heat when working. Its pretty easy - remove drain plug, remove piece from inside plug, drain and refill.

    The drain plug is both check and drain port on this transmission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    change CVT fluid every 40K in Pakistan - CVT generates a ton of heat when working. Its pretty easy - remove drain plug, remove piece from inside plug, drain and refill.

    The drain plug is both check and drain port on this transmission.
    @Xulfiqar bro and what's in the case of normal AT (non CVT) ? I heard it doesn't need to be changed, and OEM recommendation for inspection is 1,60,000km

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfarhansabir View Post
    @Xulfiqar bro and what's in the case of normal AT (non CVT) ? I heard it doesn't need to be changed, and OEM recommendation for inspection is 1,60,000km
    I dont know where you heard that - but that way failure is guaranteed in half that life. - If Toyota recommend only inspection at 160,000 kms - ask them of any case of warranty replacement at that mileage. Toyota recommend change at every 100,000 kms and half of that in severe duty which means city driving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    I dont know where you heard that - but that way failure is guaranteed in half that life. - If Toyota recommend only inspection at 160,000 kms - ask them of any case of warranty replacement at that mileage. Toyota recommend change at every 100,000 kms and half of that in severe duty which means city driving.
    I will try to post the source of it here. If I find it again ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by syncview View Post
    Okay guys, I am back! with a BLAST.

    First off, Naweed: You said original oil was giving better performance and you must be VERY right because you put in the wrong oil for the transmission. Toyota has been using ATF-World Standard in their auto cars since 2005.. and the 2005+ vitz is no exception. That oil doesn't need to replaced or changed.. 1st INSPECTION in the manual is at 160,000 Kilometers. and that too is inspection only.
    However if you want to change and can FIND ATF-WS here, change it every 100K Kilometers or so just for kicks.


    have a look at this TSB:

    http://www.etimago.com/yaris/TSB/TS-...0Fluid%20).pdf

    So everyone out there, with a Vitz 2005 or later, you don't need to change your transmission oil.. and if you want to, use ONLY the ATF-WS (AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID - WORLD STANDARD).
    @Xulfiqar bro please see this & advice. Moreover please refer to the middle of third page of the document below, please advise what should be done accordingly, i am pretty confused :-S

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    firstly its a european zone document, get an asia/africa document and I see 80K for severe and also 48 months (this is regardless of mileage)

    The tropical zone document will show it even lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    firstly its a european zone document, get an asia/africa document and I see 80K for severe and also 48 months (this is regardless of mileage)

    The tropical zone document will show it even lower.
    I will find one.

    What I know about CVT is that you don't feel the gears changing, but i clearly feel & see them changing (thanks to the rpm meter) when I am cruising or steadily increasing speed. How do I verify its CVT or simple AT transmission? The gear lever pattern is PRNDSB whixh seems to me like a CVT. I have a VItz 2009 U Package with chasis model KSP90.

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    cvt will feel like a scooty and with small engines it is programmed to raise rpm and then shuttle the variator for maximum acceleration and economy too.

    It does not have gears to change or anything like that, its like the pulley drive system of a drill press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    cvt will feel like a scooty and with small engines it is programmed to raise rpm and then shuttle the variator for maximum acceleration and economy too.

    It does not have gears to change or anything like that, its like the pulley drive system of a drill press.
    I do understand how a CVT works, varying diameters of two pulleys, which simulates the gear sprocket size changing when we change gears. Can you please elaborate this part 'shuttle the variator for maximum acceleration and economy too.'

    So what I can assess from your statement is that i own a non-CVT transmission?

    I experience something like this,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2EHlk1LaQ4, but the gears shifts are more since I am not always accelerating hard, while cruising at 80 kph i have rpms around 2-2.5k

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfarhansabir View Post
    I will find one.

    What I know about CVT is that you don't feel the gears changing, but i clearly feel & see them changing (thanks to the rpm meter) when I am cruising or steadily increasing speed. How do I verify its CVT or simple AT transmission? The gear lever pattern is PRNDSB whixh seems to me like a CVT. I have a VItz 2009 U Package with chasis model KSP90.


    Simply check your cars gear patern, a CVT goes like P/R/N/D/S/B and a Toyota A/T goes like P/R/N/D/2/1 (O/D is optional)


    Also once you open up the hood, just next to the engine is your transmission it should have a alphabetical number on it, Thats your transmission code, try googling that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    Simply check your cars gear patern, a CVT goes like P/R/N/D/S/B and a Toyota A/T goes like P/R/N/D/2/1 (O/D is optional)


    Also once you open up the hood, just next to the engine is your transmission it should have a alphabetical number on it, Thats your transmission code, try googling that.
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    shuttling the variator = movement of the pulley halves
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    shuttling the variator = movement of the pulley halves
    Ok.

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