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    Default Vitz 1.3 vs 1.0 fuel economy?

    i was looking into getting a toyota vitz for personal use,, there are two models available in pak ,, the 1300cc and the more common 1000cc ,,,

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    which one has the better mileage ( ofc the 1.0 should be the better one but i heard from someone the 1300 has better EFi )

    your opinions?


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    Quote Originally Posted by farookh View Post
    Hello bro's
    Anybody tell me about toyota vitz new shape 2012 - 1.0cc & 1.3cc which one is better option for family use.
    Fuel average.
    Brakes.
    Driving.
    Road performance.
    Very important A/c cooling in hot sunny days.
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    Fuel average. 16Km/L
    Brakes. ABS 100% sure
    Driving. Like honey
    Road performance. 145Km on kashmir High way Islamabad.
    Very important A/c cooling in hot sunny days: excellent

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanoli16 View Post
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    Fuel average. 16Km/L
    Brakes. ABS 100% sure
    Driving. Like honey
    Road performance. 145Km on kashmir High way Islamabad.
    Very important A/c cooling in hot sunny days: excellent
    Is that 1.0 or 1.3?
    What's the pricing on both engine variants these days? Let's say grade 4 or 4.5?
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    1.3 is more economical than 1.0 considering the power to weight ratio !


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    Iam using Toyota Vitz 2005 , 1000cc and it gives 17-18km/l with ac within pindi isb city

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    Quote Originally Posted by wajahat_sultan View Post
    Iam using Toyota Vitz 2005 , 1000cc and it gives 17-18km/l with ac within pindi isb city
    Thats non-CVT isn't it?

    And CAT removed or with CAT?
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    My vitz 2003 gives 10-11 with ac in lahore cantt, On long it gives max 14.5 km/l. Remember its 4 cylinder.
    Vitz 2012 model 3 cylinder has given me 13.5-14.5 km/l with ac in lahore cantt, on ring road around 18 km/l with ac. Now in winter (30% ring road and 70% lahore cantt) its giving me 17-18 km/l of-course without ac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanoli16 View Post
    ____________
    Fuel average. 16Km/L
    Brakes. ABS 100% sure
    Driving. Like honey
    Road performance. 145Km on kashmir High way Islamabad.
    Very important A/c cooling in hot sunny days: excellent
    are u sure abt 16 km/l??coz i have 2011 model (latest one) with same old 1kr-fe and have changed/cleaned everything i.e spark plugs,cvt oil(toyota genuine),engine oil(5W-40),air filter,injectors,throttle body,poured in fuel system cleaner and drive it with light foot with eco light on,still i got max 11.5km/l
    Death is only a beginning.......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadparacha View Post
    are u sure abt 16 km/l??coz i have 2011 model (latest one) with same old 1kr-fe and have changed/cleaned everything i.e spark plugs,cvt oil(toyota genuine),engine oil(5W-40),air filter,injectors,throttle body,poured in fuel system cleaner and drive it with light foot with eco light on,still i got max 11.5km/l
    On average, how long are most of your commutes?
    _ 22 km/l from '03 VTi automatic, with plenty of room for improvement
    _ How to hypermile: http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/1510/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZainMahdi View Post
    On average, how long are most of your commutes?
    20 kms,and around total 45 kms daily
    Death is only a beginning.......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadparacha View Post
    are u sure abt 16 km/l??coz i have 2011 model (latest one) with same old 1kr-fe and have changed/cleaned everything i.e spark plugs,cvt oil(toyota genuine),engine oil(5W-40),air filter,injectors,throttle body,poured in fuel system cleaner and drive it with light foot with eco light on,still i got max 11.5km/l
    Odo reading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    Odo reading?
    62 thousand
    Death is only a beginning.......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadparacha View Post
    are u sure abt 16 km/l??coz i have 2011 model (latest one) with same old 1kr-fe and have changed/cleaned everything i.e spark plugs,cvt oil(toyota genuine),engine oil(5W-40),air filter,injectors,throttle body,poured in fuel system cleaner and drive it with light foot with eco light on,still i got max 11.5km/l
    Use fuel from Total stations. (Keep eyes on filling meters!)
    Reset ECU by pulling ECU fuses from engine bay for approx 10 mins.
    Re-train your ECU by at least one bout of 0-100 acceleration (hard but steady foot) AFTER operating temps are reached.
    Selling Vitz+local cars - compatible bluetooth Ecu Scantool, High-amp car chargers, Apple-certified Lightning Cables, etc. Click on my name and see my started threads for details.

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    So I traveled a total of 1372 km's this last week on my 07 1.0 vitz. The trip started from Peshawar/Topi-Swabi/Islamabad/Lahore/Islamabad and back to Peshawar. Here are some stats.

    Odo Reading: Approx 96,000 km's

    Tire Profile: 195/60R15 (Flat tires with maximum road contact and heavy unbranded Taiwanese wheels)

    Engine: 1kr-fe, Toyota Air filter (replaced 600 km's previously), Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 (2000 km's driven before this trip), Oil filter replaced along with oil and finally new plugs installed 2000 km's before aswell.

    Weight: Extensive Sound Deadening on Hood/Trunk floor/4 Doors/Tailgate/Car floor/A,B,C Pillars. Subwoofer in Trunk. Me and my medium sized travelling bag full of clothes and suits + my friend from Swabi-Topi till Lahore. I was back alone from Lahore to Peshawar.

    Total Km's Driven: 1372 kilometers

    Total Fuel Used:
    Rs 5900 (From a full tank in peshawar to a full tank back in peshawar)

    Price of Fuel (During the Trip):
    Avg Rs 76.2 (The prices differed by a few decimal values)

    Fuel Used:
    Shell Premium (No HO was used on the trip, I really wanted to calculate the avg of the 1kr-fe using regular fuel only)

    Filling Stations:
    Shell (University Road Peshawar near Gora Kabristan), Shell (Ghazi By-Pass Road Topi-Swabi), Shell (Zafar Ali Road-Lahore), Shell (Thokar Niaz Baig Flyover near M-2 Entry Lahore) and Shell (F7 Markaz Islamabad).

    Average Speeds on Motorway between destinations:

    1) Peshawar-Topi (95km/h) (Got an amazing average of 19.2 km/l) (I topped up at the shell peshawar station and the first bar dropped at exactly 125km's right when I stopped at the shell stop in Topi. The fuel tank was full in exactly Rs 500 too. I was amazed considering the weight of my car and tire profile) (Light Foot)

    This was a picture I took just as I was entering Topi to pick my friend up from GIK. Thats 115km's covered and all 8 bars showing.

    vitz 13 vs 10 ?  fuel economy ? -1652845

    2) Topi-Islamabad (100 km/h) (Light Foot)
    3) Islamabad-Behra (100 km/h) (Light Foot)
    4) Behra-Lahore (110 km/h) (Moderate Foot)
    5) Lahore-Behra (105 km/h) (Light Foot)
    6) Behra-Islamabad (120 km/h) (Heavy-Moderate Foot)
    7) Islamabad-Peshawar (100 km/h) (Light-Moderate Foot)

    In conclusion, I managed to achieve 17.72 km/l. This was one hell of a surprise in my case since I've never managed to get over 12/13 km/l on my previous visits between Islamabad/Peshawar. The key was to let the car accelerate on its own accord. These 1.0 engines aint great accelerating engines and even if you push them hard, all you get is noise and no go. I also let the car decelerate on slopes on the MW and not pushing the throttle to keep the speed constant or accelerate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devils_smile View Post

    In conclusion, I managed to achieve 17.72 km/l. This was one hell of a surprise in my case since I've never managed to get over 12/13 km/l on my previous visits between Islamabad/Peshawar. The key was to let the car accelerate on its own accord. These 1.0 engines aint great accelerating engines and even if you push them hard, all you get is noise and no go. I also let the car decelerate on slopes on the MW and not pushing the throttle to keep the speed constant or accelerate.
    The technique you used is known as DWL (Driving With Load) in hypermiling circles; it is a bread and butter technique. It can give quite a boost in fuel economy; I achieved 18.2 km/l on my '03 VTi Prosmatic, mainly using this technique, on the same route (Topi to Islamabad). I kept the speed between 80-110 km/h, going to 130 for a couple of minutes at one point.

    The proper way to use this technique is to use a fuel economy gauge; you choose a target instantaneous figure and try to maintain that going up slopes. If you don't have a gauge, then you just maintain throttle position going up and down the slope.
    _ 22 km/l from '03 VTi automatic, with plenty of room for improvement
    _ How to hypermile: http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/1510/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsanonline View Post
    Use fuel from Total stations. (Keep eyes on filling meters!)
    Reset ECU by pulling ECU fuses from engine bay for approx 10 mins.
    Re-train your ECU by at least one bout of 0-100 acceleration (hard but steady foot) AFTER operating temps are reached.
    refilled the tank with totals once but haven't got any satisfactory mileage
    Death is only a beginning.......................

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    oh my, started this thread 4 year back , cant believe its still on

    well, i have got a vitz, 3rd gen , it gives me around 17 to 18 kmpl on motorway . i use hi quality 5w20 oil and RON 92 fuel . i have keep the standard 165/R14s and keep the air and oil filters clean

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    What is the fuel tank capacity of Vitz 2009 1.0L 1KR-FE engine is it 40 or 42 liters??

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadparacha View Post
    refilled the tank with totals once but haven't got any satisfactory mileage
    Have to do it a couple times, not just once. It takes time for the ecu to relearn the knock prevention index.
    It wont be a huge difference, but it should be noticeable. And if you can fit it with a cold-air intake, that should work wonders.
    Oh and get the cat cleaned. Then she'll be purring....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsanonline View Post
    Have to do it a couple times, not just once. It takes time for the ecu to relearn the knock prevention index.
    It wont be a huge difference, but it should be noticeable. And if you can fit it with a cold-air intake, that should work wonders.
    Oh and get the cat cleaned. Then she'll be purring....
    how to clean the cat?? Ive heard it can only be replaced with the new one
    Death is only a beginning.......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadparacha View Post
    how to clean the cat?? Ive heard it can only be replaced with the new one
    They take it off (its integrated into the exhaust manifold), put some water (preferably warm) with shampoo in a tub/balti, and fully soak the whole thing in that solution for a couple hours. Then wash.
    If the cat has melted and closed the pores, then no solution except either to break the honeycombs or replace with new or used.
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