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    Default Help required for A/C service of Toyota Vitz 2004 in Lahore

    Dear PakWheeler Friends,

    I have recently bought Toyota Vitz 2004 (registered 2007). It is doing good so far and as summer has arrived so I am planning for A/C service. I have checked and A/C and blower working good but as I don't know when it was serviced last time so thinking to give it a try.

    I went to Toyota Township Motors Lahore and asked for A/C service and they said its charges would be 7K and I was surprised and decided to not go for it and first ask PakWheelers. I have a few questions:

    1- If A/C is working good then is it really required to get it serviced?
    2- The blower sound in last points is too much, is that a problem or it is normal?
    3- Why A/C gas is always discharged when it is serviced? why can't they service without discharging because gas costs a lot.
    4- How much ideally should it cost for Vitz 2004 complete A/C service as 7K looks too much?
    5- Any honest, good and economical A/C experts in Lahore? I have experience of Ahmed Car A/C and Noble Car A/C with my old companion Khyber but they are too expensive but their work was good.

    Looking forward to have good response on the above questions. Thanks in advance!

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    These dealerships are Thieves!!!! Abhi to aap ka Honda walon sei palla nhai patra
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    Anyone can give me the number of ahmed car ac?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8888 View Post
    Anyone can give me the number of ahmed car ac?????
    Mr. Babar (Ahmed Car AC) 03214593770

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    Punjab Car Ac
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    go to punjab car AC, near ganga raam
    for ac service, authorized dealership is a big NO
    toyota walton asks 6000 for my cuore ac service
    punjab car ac is much cheaper than this
    Leave sooner, drive slower, live longer

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    Quote Originally Posted by agoodfriend View Post
    you must flush the evaporator /condencer and all the hoses with CTC or carb cleaner spary ,,,,,,,,,,,,fill the right oil in the right quantity ,,,,,,,,,,,3-3.5 ounce per pound of gas ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,change of dryer is must , dont open the seals of dryer till its ready to fit , ask him to use the old dryer during pressure check the system ,
    can we flush a multiflow condenser with CTC or carb cleaner??

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmanuetian View Post
    go to punjab car AC, near ganga raam
    for ac service, authorized dealership is a big NO
    toyota walton asks 6000 for my cuore ac service
    punjab car ac is much cheaper than this
    Please share current AC service charges of Punjab AC.

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    Well punjab car is authorised dealer of denso in lahore wherease Ahmad car ac is authorised for senden. Check what compressor your car has. BTW Punjab car ac are more expensive than Ahmad car ac. They took 2500rs for service of Mehran Ac 2 years ago and that too was half service without opening of AC parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quaidian View Post
    sjehsan Yes I have seen their shop on "Ganda Nala" have not tried them yet.

    OK - here I am going to share with you guys something very very interesting:

    Today I went to Ahmed Car A/C in Allama Iqbal Town as they are very close and hardly 1KM from my home. They are very famous in Lahore and you can easily see their sticker at back of many many cars in Lahore. I also mentioned earlier that I had good past experience with them though they are bit expensive.

    I actually wanted to check their pricing for my Vitz A/C servicing. I met the proprietor and asked about my car A/C servicing. He said he would like to check the A/C working first and I said why not. He detached the dashboard drawer and pulled a tray out ... believe me it was like a HELL, totally black and full of dust - very bad condition. He told me that it is actually cabin filter and it stops the dust to reach to evaporator. He said the previous car owner didn't bother to check and replace it timely. He removed the filter from tray and fitted TOYOTA genuine cabin filter and inserted the tray back to its position. Then he asked me to test the A/C .....

    voila, it was running like a charm and the heavy sound of blower was also gone and it was feeling very smooth. He told me that the evaporator and blower both are OK and your car doesn't need A/C servicing yet and advised me to replace filter after 9000KM and get it cleaned every couple of weeks. He charged me only 800/- for the cabin filter and it took hardly 15 minutes to get the job done.

    I argued with him that its common to get the car A/C serviced every couple of years then why it is still not needed for my car and he replied that basically one of the major work item in A/C servicing is getting the evaporator cleaned and as there is a cabin filter in Vitz which protects the evaporator from getting dirty so this is not needed yet because evaporator is all fine.

    This was something very new interesting and specailly cost saving for me :-)
    You seem to be my neighbour because ahmad car ac is around 1.7 kms from my home. Mind sharing the exact location of your home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    You seem to be my neighbour because ahmad car ac is around 1.7 kms from my home. Mind sharing the exact location of your home.
    Ahmed Car Ac also about 1.7 KM from my house as I live in Jehanzaib Block Iqbal Town

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    Actually, everyone offering this "A/C" service in Lahore or anywhere is total and utter crap. You are absolutely right: The only time the evaporator coil needs to be cleaned is if it does NOT have a Cabin A/C Filter. Even so, I would NEVER get it serviced every year, unless you make absolutely sure to replace the receiver drier.

    One thing I was going to say is, everyone should do this. Check your sight glass on the high side line and see if any bubbles are coming. If there are bubbles coming, that means your R134a refrigerant gas is low. What I can never understand is, I have NEVER EVER seen any A/C repair workshop refill the R134a by weight. That means, actually weighing the gas and recharging a car by that. In fact, underneath the bonnet of say a Toyota Vitz, it will say in Japanese to "Add 100 +- 50 grams after the bubbles have disappeared on the sight glass."

    What people do not understand here is that, if you have less R134a refrigerant gas, the compressor will be working all the time and will overheat, and then your compressor will fail. I check my sight glass every season to make sure that it is clear. I have done a lot of A/C work myself because I am sick and tired of all the bull*$#% mechanics in Lahore, INCLUDING the Toyota Dealer, telling something else. I have worked on my own car A/C, along with countless other friends cars and I have well and truly sorted their car out, according to their respective service manual.

    If you want to check the sight glass on the Vitz, you should look for a A/C pipe with a plastic cap marked "H". The cap is grey colour and is usually on the right side of the car, next to the headlamp. Turn your A/C on, with the fan blower at full and let it run for 5 minutes. Check the sight glass and see if it is clear or if you see bubbles. If you don't see any bubbles and your temperature is very cold, then you are good to go. If you have bubbles, let me know and I will guide you step by step with what to do. Happy driving!

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    Default xli a/c help required

    My 04 xli needs a/c repair... The Refrigerant finishes in a month...I had to get the gas recharged monthly throughout the last season... (For rs 1000, he claimed the gas's original, (was cold enough)).. Anyways, now I plan to get this thing fixed. A prado's a/c was fixed by punjab car a/c but according to the driver, the gas ain't original (for some reasons, I can't feel it cold enough too). So can someone here let me know of an expert who doesn't overcharges, fixes what's wrong already, and fills in the genuine Refrigerant to the full capacity of my never ever serviced xli?

    Thank you

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    mubarik ho u were not torn by a paki shop owner lol !

    Quote Originally Posted by quaidian View Post
    sjehsan Yes I have seen their shop on "Ganda Nala" have not tried them yet.

    OK - here I am going to share with you guys something very very interesting:

    Today I went to Ahmed Car A/C in Allama Iqbal Town as they are very close and hardly 1KM from my home. They are very famous in Lahore and you can easily see their sticker at back of many many cars in Lahore. I also mentioned earlier that I had good past experience with them though they are bit expensive.

    I actually wanted to check their pricing for my Vitz A/C servicing. I met the proprietor and asked about my car A/C servicing. He said he would like to check the A/C working first and I said why not. He detached the dashboard drawer and pulled a tray out ... believe me it was like a HELL, totally black and full of dust - very bad condition. He told me that it is actually cabin filter and it stops the dust to reach to evaporator. He said the previous car owner didn't bother to check and replace it timely. He removed the filter from tray and fitted TOYOTA genuine cabin filter and inserted the tray back to its position. Then he asked me to test the A/C .....

    voila, it was running like a charm and the heavy sound of blower was also gone and it was feeling very smooth. He told me that the evaporator and blower both are OK and your car doesn't need A/C servicing yet and advised me to replace filter after 9000KM and get it cleaned every couple of weeks. He charged me only 800/- for the cabin filter and it took hardly 15 minutes to get the job done.

    I argued with him that its common to get the car A/C serviced every couple of years then why it is still not needed for my car and he replied that basically one of the major work item in A/C servicing is getting the evaporator cleaned and as there is a cabin filter in Vitz which protects the evaporator from getting dirty so this is not needed yet because evaporator is all fine.

    This was something very new interesting and specailly cost saving for me :-)

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    Sir, check your evaporator (jali inside the car) for leaks! this user to happen to my suzuki a few years ago, and I know how frustrating it is to keep gas getting filled, only for it to slowly disappear in a couple of weeks! I had to change the evaporator and it got sorted!

    Quote Originally Posted by harris24742 View Post
    My 04 xli needs a/c repair... The Refrigerant finishes in a month...I had to get the gas recharged monthly throughout the last season... (For rs 1000, he claimed the gas's original, (was cold enough)).. Anyways, now I plan to get this thing fixed. A prado's a/c was fixed by punjab car a/c but according to the driver, the gas ain't original (for some reasons, I can't feel it cold enough too). So can someone here let me know of an expert who doesn't overcharges, fixes what's wrong already, and fills in the genuine Refrigerant to the full capacity of my never ever serviced xli?

    Thank you

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    how much does an evaporator costs? and btw, is this thing called "fridge" in mechanic's/layman's language?

    besides, how does one checks it? i assume the entire dashboard needs to be pulled-off....... & therefore, only a specialised mechanic can do the job..

    Quote Originally Posted by lse1 View Post
    Sir, check your evaporator (jali inside the car) for leaks! this user to happen to my suzuki a few years ago, and I know how frustrating it is to keep gas getting filled, only for it to slowly disappear in a couple of weeks! I had to change the evaporator and it got sorted!

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    dear if u live near by DHA than go to afzal car AC on main boulevard in service lane near to muhamdi nihari... he is a good chap. i also had the issue of frequent leaks and condenser was found faulty. i also had the vitz.

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    I have the same car. I feel as if the A/C needs servicing. All the A/cc shops I show it to say that these cars donot need A/C servicing. It only needs a cabin filter replacement, Is that true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LIANARULES View Post
    I have the same car. I feel as if the A/C needs servicing. All the A/cc shops I show it to say that these cars donot need A/C servicing. It only needs a cabin filter replacement, Is that true?
    Yes that's true. We are using Vitz 05 in our family and from last 3 years we are just cleaning Cabin Air filter at every oil change and changing after 12-15 thousand KM. AC performance is superb. Its like a WINDOW AC; just filter need to be clean or change.

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    Don?t ever again go to Ahmad Car A/c, I know BABER ,his owner and their chotay workers since 2011 ,they have same method n tricks to check all different type of cars n jeeps n etc,just use meters n then fill gas ,,or advise u to change compressor,condenser ,then your problem will solved,but after a week or 30-40 days gas will finish,, they say this is because heat causes ,,,,,,baber says new car a/c will service every year n gas will be filled every year,
    Know 2006 model my Corolla A/c will still works well with 250,000 mileage buy me 92,000 mileage corolla 2010 is crap because they service it 4 times every year by year,now it
    its totally F**ked,,,,


    So ADVISE THEY CHARGE URE NEW CAR WITH GAS N DISCHARGE URE FACTORY GAS N U COME TO THEM SEASON BY SEASON,


    GO TO ANYONE ELSE BUT DON?T GO THERE,,,
    EVEN OLD CAR A/C LAST 2-3 YEARS EASILY,,,,




    AHMED CAR A/C IS JUST fraud n no warranty ke bd men na aana paray,,,,,




    All Work At Ahmed Car a/c is done by BOYS n owner BABAR Walks around saying that ?k yeh nut achi tarha tight kaerna hai,,,,yeh 3nun gripen lagani hen,like that,,,,n BILL me sirf tanka 2 second wala bhi 400-500 tak ka lghayey ga?


    So kisi achay ke pass jain mozang waghera men jahan competition bhi hai ur rivals bhi hen



    ur agay se bezati bhi kerta hai,,,,,,,,,waisay hameri awaam jahan ur unparh hi rahay gi

    net hum log surf kertaen hheen urs cars/ac ur information in kay pass hoti hai pata puta hota nai bhi a/c walay office men beth ker in ki baten per haan haan kertay rahu,,,,,,,ooonchii dukaan pheekka pakwaan

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    Any experience with mian car ac? Should I go there? I just want original work, with no dramay baazi and jhoot. Charge me but do genuine work.. That's the reason I am requesting for help here on P/w

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