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    Kindly recommend me engine oil for my car.
    what is company recomendation.
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    Toyota Vitz
    1.0
    2007
    86000km on ODO
    Monthly running 2600 Km
    Area Lahore( extremely hot now days)

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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    As Zain has pointed out, this is an out dated chart.
    For vehicles with small displacement engines (1.0 L etc.) like Vitz with 1kr-fe engine, any thing like 10w40 is bad for the engine.
    It is to be noted here that the recommended oil is 0w20. 5w20, 0w30 and 5w30 are acceptable, but not beyond this.
    Absolutely right sir. Great. Very good answer.
    Further more, the displayed chart is just a drawing and doesn't make much logic.
    Because according to it if we use 20w oil in our car, then it means it should work well upto -10 Degree Centigrades. Isn't it?
    But people shift to less viscose oils in winter like 0w or 5w, because this 20w oil gives starting problems even in plus 10 degree C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tintin1 View Post
    Absolutely right sir. Great. Very good answer.
    Further more, the displayed chart is just a drawing and doesn't make much logic.
    Because according to it if we use 20w oil in our car, then it means it should work well upto -10 Degree Centigrades. Isn't it?
    But people shift to less viscose oils in winter like 0w or 5w, because this 20w oil gives starting problems even in plus 10 degree C.
    Rule of thumb is that one should always use oil recommended by manufacturer.
    After the vehicle has done 100,000 KM on the odometer, one grade thicker oil could be considered. Clearances between moving parts increase because of wear and tear which can be compensated by using a thicker oil.
    Modern vehicles are now designed to operate with thin (low viscous) oils. 90% of engine wear and tear takes place during cold start up until the engine attains normal operating tempertaure. Thus, it is very important to ensure that the oil reaches every part as soon as possible when engine is started from cold. If oil is thick ( high viscosity), it will take more time for it to flow and reach every part for lubrication especially in cold weather, causing delayed lubrication and increase in wear and tear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    Rule of thumb is that one should always use oil recommended by manufacturer.
    After the vehicle has done 100,000 KM on the odometer, one grade thicker oil could be considered. Clearances between moving parts increase because of wear and tear which can be compensated by using a thicker oil.
    Modern vehicles are now designed to operate with thin (low viscous) oils. 90% of engine wear and tear takes place during cold start up until the engine attains normal operating tempertaure. Thus, it is very important to ensure that the oil reaches every part as soon as possible when engine is started from cold. If oil is thick ( high viscosity), it will take more time for it to flow and reach every part for lubrication especially in cold weather, causing delayed lubrication and increase in wear and tear.
    In older posts I've read somewhere that

    0W~05W oils, lubricates the full engine within 20 seconds.
    10W oils, lubricates the full engine in 30~40 seconds.
    15~20W oils, lubricates the full engine in 40~60 seconds.

    That means after cold start its always better to let engine warm up for couple of minutes before driving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tintin1 View Post
    In older posts I've read somewhere that

    0W~05W oils, lubricates the full engine within 20 seconds.
    10W oils, lubricates the full engine in 30~40 seconds.
    15~20W oils, lubricates the full engine in 40~60 seconds.

    That means after cold start its always better to let engine warm up for couple of minutes before driving.
    True, but modern engines are designed (along with use of low viscosity grade/thin oils) that it is not required to warm the engine for long during start- up.
    One can maintain low rpm (around 2000 rpm max.) initially while driving for 3 minutes and the accelerate as required.

    Here in our country, general trend is to use thicker oil for prolonged engine life as we think that more wear and tear of engine takes place when the engine is warm running on normal operating temperature. Where as, 90% of engine wear and tear takes place from cold start up till engine has obtained normal operating temperature.

    Aggressive driving (racing / high rpm) requires thicker oil, meaning that higher viscosity grade oil ( second number in multi grade viscosity oil). Example if recommended oil is 5W30, then if you are aggressive driver driving in high rpm range then you may use 5W40 or even 5w50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YARIS.10 View Post
    Kindly recommend me engine oil for my car.
    what is company recomendation.
    Detail is following

    Toyota Vitz
    1.0
    2007
    86000km on ODO
    Monthly running 2600 Km
    Area Lahore( extremely hot now days)

    Thanks
    JDM oil requirements explained below:


    Guide to Correct Engine Oil Selection
    There are many kinds of engines designed for various types of vehicles and driving styles. All have their unique properties, and are tuned for engine oils of a certain range of viscosities. Most of the modern engines built in Japan nowadays require ultra low viscosity oils, such as 0W-20 and 5W-20. Some high rpm NA-engines and most of turbo-charged engines require higher viscosity oils, such as 5W-30 or 10W-30.
    However, besides technical characteristics of engines requiring certain viscosities, there are many other factors that influence the engine’s performance, and therefore need to paid attention to when choosing an oil. Some of the basic ones are given below.
    ●Mileage
    What is the mileage of the vehicle? If it is much over 100,000 km, which is a normal thing for a Japanese vehicle operated outside of Japan, the oils of the OEM- recommended viscosities may not be able to maintain proper performance of the engine and provide relevant protection to its aging mechanisms as they used to when the vehicle was new. High mileage becomes a particular issue especially if the vehicle has been in extensive use. What kind of oil can solve the problems of high mileage engines and help extend their life? Generally speaking, high mileage engines need a thicker oil film and extra anti-wear protection. After a vehicle has done 100,000 -120,000 km, we recommend to step up to higher viscosity oils with increased thermal stability and extra cleaning package, or wide range synthetic oils, depending on your budget.
    For example, the high mileage alternatives to 0W-20 would be 5W-30 (higher viscosity) and 0W-30 (wider range).
    ●Service
    What is the distance the vehicle travels during a year? How severe is the driving environment? If the travelling distances are long and the vehicle is used in continuous high rpm operations, the engine ages faster and therefore needs a higher level of protection than the standard OEM recommendations can offer. The most effective way of protecting hard working engines, is using fully-synthetic oils with a sturdier oil film, or wider range oils with improved heat resistance characteristics and increased package of anti-wear additives. The standard OEM line-ups usually do not have high endurance synthetic oils and wide-range viscosities such as 0W-30, 5W-40 and 10W-40, that is why Japanese car builders simply offer more frequent oil change (1,500 - 3,000km) with the oils of standard viscosities. In our opinion, a more reasonable way to protect engines in severe service applications is using higher grade synthetic oils or wide range oils, which both can do the same job on standard drain intervals.
    For example, the severe service alternatives to Runner 5W-30 would be Pro Runner 5W-30 (higher grade synthetic oil) and Pro Runner 5W-40 (wider range+higher grade synthetic oil).
    ●Climate
    What is the climate the vehicle is operated in?
    The oil recommendations for the JDM models that the Japanese car builders offer in the owner's manuals, auto brand websites and oil data books, are based on presumption that the vehicle is operated in the mild climate of Japan. Is your driving environment more severe? The winters are longer and colder or, on the opposite, it is extremely hot all year round? Then you will definitely need an oil of a different viscosity that is capable of protecting the engine at the certain temperature ranges of your driving environment. Generally speaking, cold climates require low viscosity oils as of SAE 0W or 5W grades, while extremely hot climates require high viscosity oils as of SAE 40 or SAE 50 grades. To ensure effective protection of the engine at all temperatures ranges, we recommend using wide range synthetic oils, such as Pro Runner 0W-30, 0W-40, 5W-40 and 5W-50.
    ●Driving style
    Depending on what the driver considers more important, fuel efficiency or high performance, we offer oils of different viscosities that will be appropriate for each particular style of driving. The OEM recommendations focus on minimizing fuel consumption, so if your goal is fuel efficiency, use our Primary Recommendations which correspond to the OEM-recommended viscosities. If you enjoy sporty driving and performance is your number one priority, then you need a high-endurance oil with a sturdy film and superior thermal stability, which can protect the engine in continuous or rapid high rpm operations and improve the vehicle's responsiveness to acceleration.
    For example, Pro Runner 0W-30 would be a performance-focused option for the ultra fuel efficient vehicles where 0W-20 is recommended by the OEM.
    ●Budget
    A great number of the JDM models built after 2006 call for 0W-20 rated oils. Manufacturing of any 0W-20 requires use of PAO - an expensive synthetic additive, which raises the cost of oil. For some high performance engines the car builders recommend 5W-40, and a proper 5W-40 is not cheap in Japan either. What to do if the driver's budget cannot afford the OEM-recommended viscosities? Don’t worry - the below chart will offer you several options that will help you choose a price-reasonable replacement, within your budget.
    Be careful of Over-spec!
    “Over-spec” is using oil of higher specification than the vehicle actually requires, which results in poor performance, increased fuel consumption and often harming of the engine. Some drivers think the more expensive the oil is, or the more advertised it is, the better protection it can deliver to their vehicle, and choose an oil by price or brand name without checking its properties. Such attempts of drivers to choose “the best” oil for their treasured vehicle are understandable, but in fact they do more harm than good and often lead to very sad consequences. It is important to understand what is standard-good, what is better for certain applications, and what is “too good” and absolutely unacceptable. Here are some basic tips which will help avoid trouble caused by the use of Over-spec oils.
    ! 0W-20 can be used only in the vehicles where it is recommended by the OE Manufacturers, and cannot be used in vehicles calling for 5W-20, 5W-30, 5W-40 or 10W-30 rated oils!
    ! Avoid using 10W-30, and do not use 10W-40, 15W-40, 5W-50, 10W-50, 15W-50, 20W-50 and 10W-60 in the ultra fuel efficient engines calling for 0W-20!
    Guide to Correct Engine Oil Selection

    Application: ◆ultra fuel efficient NA-engines
    ◆certain types of modern turbo engines with small displacement
    Primary Recommendation: ECO RIDER SM 0W-20
    Use ECO RIDER SM 0W-20 if:
    the vehicle is in good technical condition
    the mileage is under 100,000 km
    the vehicle is operated in standard driving environment and performance reserve is not necessary
    the vehicle is not used for sporty driving or other applications involving continuous high rpm operations, or were increased heat resistance is required
    If all the above statements are true for the vehicle and for the driver, and the oil is within the driver’s budget, ECO RIDER SM 0W-20 is just what you need.

    Option 1: PRO RUNNER SM 0W-30 - a higher grade option, combining outstanding fuel efficiency with high performance. Excellent choice for performance-focused driving, severe service and high mileage applications
    Characteristics:
    slightly thicker than 0W-20 → excellent for higher mileage engines, including extra high mileage applications
    wider range → excellent for performance-focused driving, severe service and high mileage applications
    increased heat-resistance → excellent performance even in continuous high rpm operations and in harsh driving environments
    increased cleaning agent and higher TBN → better performance on poor quality fuel
    Use Option 1 if:
    the owner of the vehicle wants to have a performance reserve, for sporty driving or severe service applications
    the vehicle has gone through severe service or poor maintenance, and needs an oil delivering increased anti-wear protection and cleanliness
    the mileage is over 100,000 km, and the engine needs a thicker oil film
    the vehicle is operated in severe driving environment, and needs a wide range oil with a sturdy oil film and increased anti-wear package
    the vehicle is used for sporty driving, and the driver needs a high performance oil delivering better responsiveness to acceleration
    Option 2: PRO RUNNER SM 0W-30ECO RIDER SM 5W-20 - an excellent cost performance alternative to 0W-20, recommended for the applications where a thicker “green” oil is required
    Characteristics:
    slightly thicker than 0W-20 → sometimes more effective than 0W-20 in certain NA-engines, especially the ones with large displacement, and higher mileage ultra fuel efficient engines originally calling for 0W-20
    Use Option 2 if:
    The application is a full-sized vehicle with a big engine, and although the owner’s manual recommends 0W-20, you feel from the engine’s performance that 0W-20 is too thin for this particular driving environment
    The driver prefers to use a fuel efficient “green” oil, but ECO RIDER 0W-20 is beyond the budget
    Option 3:
    PRO RUNNER SM 5W-30 - use for performance-focused driving, severe service and high mileage applications
    RUNNER SM 5W-30 - use for budget-focused driving

    Application: ◆heavy vehicles with fuel efficient NA-engines
    ◆fuel-efficient NA-engines with large displacement
    ◆certain types of modern turbo engines
    ◆fuel efficient NA-engines built in the early 2000’s
    Primary Recommendation: ECO RIDER SM 5W-20
    Use ECO RIDER SM 5W-20 if:
    the vehicle is in good technical condition
    the mileage is under 100,000 km
    the vehicle is operated in standard driving environment and performance reserve is not necessary
    the vehicle is not used for sporty driving or other applications involving continuous high rpm operations, or were increased heat resistance is required
    If all the above statements are true for the vehicle and for the driver, and the oil is within the driver’s budget, ECO RIDER SM 5W-20 is just what you need.

    Option 1: PRO RUNNER SM 0W-30 - a higher grade option, combining outstanding fuel efficiency with high performance. Excellent choice for performance-focused driving, severe service and high mileage applications
    Characteristics:
    wider range → excellent for performance-focused driving, severe service and high mileage applications
    increased heat-resistance → excellent performance even in continuous high rpm operations and in harsh driving environments
    increased cleaning agent and higher TBN → better performance on poor quality fuel
    sturdier oil film → longer service life and more effective anti-wear protection
    Use Option 1 if:
    the owner of the vehicle wants to have a performance reserve, for sporty driving or severe service applications
    the vehicle has gone through severe service or poor maintenance, and needs an oil delivering increased anti-wear protection and cleanliness
    the mileage is over 100,000 km, and the engine needs a thicker oil film
    the vehicle is operated in severe driving environment, and needs a wide range oil with a sturdy oil film and increased anti-wear package
    the vehicle is used for sporty driving, and the driver needs a high performance oil delivering better responsiveness to acceleration
    Option 2:
    PRO RUNNER SM 5W-30 - use for performance-focused driving, severe service and high mileage applications
    RUNNER SM 5W-30 - use for performance-focused driving and high mileage applications
    Option 3: PRO RUNNER SM 10W-30 - use for budget-focused driving and high mileage applications
    Option 4: PARTNER SL 5W-30 - use for budget-focused driving, additional cleanliness, and high mileage applications

    Application: ◆NA-engines
    ◆high rpm engines
    ◆turbo engines
    Primary Recommendation: RUNNER SM 5W-30
    Use RUNNER SM 5W-30 if:
    the vehicle is in good technical condition
    the mileage is under 100,000 km
    the vehicle is operated in standard driving environment and performance reserve is not necessary
    the vehicle is not used for sporty driving or other applications involving continuous high rpm operations, or were increased heat resistance is required
    If all the above statements are true for the vehicle and for the driver, and the oil is within the driver’s budget, RUNNER SM 5W-30 is just what you need.
    Option 1: PRO RUNNER SM 0W-30 - a higher grade option, combining outstanding fuel efficiency with high performance. Excellent choice for the drivers who seek to improve fuel efficiency while maintaining high performance
    Characteristics:
    thinner than 5W-30 → better fluidity at low temperatures → increased cold start protection even in extremely cold driving environments
    better fuel efficiency, while the overall performance level is higher than with 5W-30
    increased cleaning agent and higher TBN → better performance on poor quality fuel
    sturdier oil film → longer service life and more effective anti-wear protection
    Use Option 1 if:
    the owner of the vehicle wants to improve fuel efficiency without compromising the performance level
    the owner of the vehicle needs a thinner oil for increased cold start protection
    the owner of the vehicle needs a long drain oil for extending service intervals
    If all the above statements are true for the vehicle and for the driver, and the oil is within the driver’s budget, RUNNER SM 5W-30 is just what you need.
    Option 2: PRO RUNNER 5W-30, 5W-40 - use for performance-focused driving, severe service, longer drain and high mileage applications
    Use Option 1 if:
    the owner of the vehicle wants to have a performance reserve, for sporty driving or severe service applications
    the vehicle has gone through severe service or poor maintenance, and needs an oil delivering increased anti-wear protection and cleanliness
    the mileage is over 100,000 km, and the engine needs a thicker oil film
    the vehicle is operated in severe driving environment, and needs a wider range oil (5W-40) with a sturdier oil film and increased anti-wear package
    Option 3: RUNNER SM 10W-30 - use for budget-focused driving and high mileage applications
    Option 4: PARTNER SL 5W-30 - use for budget-focused driving and additional cleanliness

    Application: ◆turbo engines
    ◆high rpm NA-engines
    ◆older engines of the ’90-s
    Primary Recommendation: RUNNER SM 10W-30
    Use RUNNER SM 10W-30 if:
    the vehicle is in good technical condition
    the mileage is under 100,000 km
    the vehicle is operated in standard driving environment and performance reserve is not necessary
    the vehicle is not used for sporty driving or other applications involving continuous high rpm operations, or were increased heat resistance is required
    If all the above statements are true for the vehicle and for the driver, and the oil is within the driver’s budget, RUNNER SM 10W-30 is just what you need.
    Option 1: PRO RUNNER SM 0W-30 - a higher grade option, combining outstanding fuel efficiency with high performance. Excellent choice for the drivers who seek to improve fuel efficiency while maintaining high performance
    Characteristics:
    wide range → much better fluidity at low temperatures → increased cold start protection even in extremely cold driving environments
    much better fuel efficiency, while the overall performance level is higher than with 10W-30
    increased cleaning agent and higher TBN → better performance on poor quality fuel
    sturdier oil film → longer service life and more effective anti-wear protection
    Use Option 1 if:
    the owner of the vehicle wants to improve fuel efficiency without compromising the performance level
    the owner of the vehicle needs a thinner oil for increased cold start protection
    the owner of the vehicle needs a long drain oil for extending service intervals
    Option 2: RUNNER 10W-40 - use for performance-focused driving, severe service, and high mileage engines
    Use Option 2 if:
    the owner of the vehicle wants to have a performance reserve, for sporty driving or severe service applications
    the mileage is over 100,000 km, and the engine needs a thicker oil film
    the vehicle is operated in severe driving environment, and needs a wide ranged oil with increased heat resistance characteristics
    Option 3: PARTNER SL 10W-40 - use for budget-focused driving, severe service, increased cleanliness, and high mileage engines
    Use Option 3 if:
    the mileage is over 100,000 km, and the engine needs a thicker oil film
    the vehicle has gone through severe service or poor maintenance, and needs an oil delivering increased anti-wear protection and cleanliness
    the driver wants to use a 10W-40, but RUNNER SM 10W-40 is beyond the budget
    Winter: PRO RUNNER SM 0W-30, 5W-30, 5W-40, RUNNER SM 5W-30, PARTNER SL 5W-30 - choose according to the budget and personal preferences of the driver

    Application: ◆high rpm/ high performance engines
    Primary Recommendation: PRO RUNNER SM 5W-40 - most recommended for standard driving conditions
    Option 1: PRO RUNNER SM 0W-40 - use for maximum performance
    Option 2: RUNNER SM 10W-30, 10W-40 - use for economical driving

    Application: ◆turbo charged diesel engines
    ◆NA diesel engines
    Primary Recommendation: DIESEL TURBO S CI-4 10W-30 - most recommended for standard driving conditions
    Option 1: RUNNER/PARTNER CF 10W-40 - use for performance-focused driving and high mileage applications
    Option 2: RUNNER CF 15W-40 - use for performance-focused driving and severe service applications
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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    As Zain has pointed out, this is an out dated chart.
    For vehicles with small displacement engines (1.0 L etc.) like Vitz with 1kr-fe engine, any thing like 10w40 is bad for the engine.
    It is to be noted here that the recommended oil is 0w20. 5w20, 0w30 and 5w30 are acceptable, but not beyond this.
    I am using Zic A+ (5W-20) in my vitz 2SZ-FE (1300). The knocking has increased and m not comfortable with the oil performance either.

    Earlier Toyota 10-40 was used and it performed better. Also no change in milage of the car after switching to Zic A+.

    Please re evaluate and suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinking View Post
    I am using Zic A+ (5W-20) in my vitz 2SZ-FE (1300). The knocking has increased and m not comfortable with the oil performance either.

    Earlier Toyota 10-40 was used and it performed better. Also no change in milage of the car after switching to Zic A+.

    Please re evaluate and suggest.
    Please note that the recommended oil for your Vitz (1300 cc) is 5W30.
    Best for your car is 5W40 full synthetic oil.
    0W-20, 5W-20 is for Vitz 1.0L 1Kr-fe engine.
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    I believe Shell Ultra is 5-40 and havoline fully synthetic.

    Incase of 5-30 i can opt for micking max super plus.

    Should i change my oil now (it is driven for 1k kilometer only) or can wait till 5K? Tough knockin is at annoying rate.

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    or can i go for Max Super Micking 10-40. Using it in my Margallah and must say its an outstanding oil. Maintains performance and milage till 5K Kilometer change interval very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinking View Post
    or can i go for Max Super Micking 10-40. Using it in my Margallah and must say its an outstanding oil. Maintains performance and milage till 5K Kilometer change interval very well.
    If your vehicle milage is above 90,000 KM then You may consider 5W40 in winter.
    In summer in hot weather you may use 10W40, but again I think you should go for 5W40 full synthetic oil.
    With first change (5W40), replace after 3000 KM, then after every 5000 KM. You may find good results after the second oil change so be patient.
    I prefer famous brands like Shell, Total, Mobil 1, Liquimoly etc. Please ensure that you put in Full. Synthetic with API (SN or SM) certified 5W40 for gasoline engines. Perhaps you may use Toyota Genuine Motor Oil if they have got as Full Synthetic 5W40.
    I Prefer 5W40 over 10W40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    If your vehicle milage is above 90,000 KM then You may consider 5W40 in winter.
    In summer in hot weather you may use 10W40, but again I think you should go for 5W40 full synthetic oil.
    With first change (5W40), replace after 3000 KM, then after every 5000 KM. You may find good results after the second oil change so be patient.
    I prefer famous brands like Shell, Total, Mobil 1, Liquimoly etc. Please ensure that you put in Full. Synthetic with API (SN or SM) certified 5W40 for gasoline engines. Perhaps you may use Toyota Genuine Motor Oil if they have got as Full Synthetic 5W40.
    I Prefer 5W40 over 10W40.
    Though the viscosities are slightly different (5w-40 & 10w-40), but the traits and features are entirely different.
    5w-40 comes in fully synthetic category with latest specs (SN, Ilsac-5, A3/B3-08, etc). While other comes in mineral or semi synthetic.
    The actual specs for both of these oils are also entirely different. Or lets say its not apple to apple comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinking View Post
    I am using Zic A+ (5W-20) in my vitz 2SZ-FE (1300). The knocking has increased and m not comfortable with the oil performance either.

    Earlier Toyota 10-40 was used and it performed better. Also no change in milage of the car after switching to Zic A+.

    Please re evaluate and suggest.
    Zic a+ is not good for 2SZ-FE. Its low viscos
    If its produces the knocking, then I'll suggest to use LM 10w-40 MOS2. This oil is perfect for engines that slightly knocks. The MOS2 agent help in reducing knocking.
    First time you can change it after 3~4K, but next time you may run it upto 5~6K and can use it all year round.
    5w-40 is also good. Its expensive oil but also the change over time is like 7~8K.
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    AOA
    I have Corolla 2009 1.3L. 84000 km driven.
    Toyota motors always Add 20W50 Toyota Oil in my car.
    Please suggest on it,
    During winter or summer, when I start vehicle, I give Time to car,
    And when temperature needle start moving up from "C",,, then I move
    The car....

    Is the oil grade correct..??

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    No dear it's not the right viscosity for ur car it's better to use 5W 30 or 10W 30


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    Quote Originally Posted by eagleeyez View Post
    AOA
    I have Corolla 2009 1.3L. 84000 km driven.
    Toyota motors always Add 20W50 Toyota Oil in my car.
    Please suggest on it,
    During winter or summer, when I start vehicle, I give Time to car,
    And when temperature needle start moving up from "C",,, then I move
    The car....

    Is the oil grade correct..??
    2009 model and using 20W50. Are Toyota Motors in their senses?
    Your engine wear and tear will be very high with this grade of oil specially during winter.
    Go for a thinner oil, like 5W30 or 10W30 or 5W40 full synthetic.
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    Toyota fools Don't have any Other. But then, all car companies here have Just one Variant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    2009 model and using 20W50. Are Toyota Motors in their senses?
    Your engine wear and tear will be very high with this grade of oil specially during winter.
    Go for a thinner oil, like 5W30 or 10W30 or 5W40 full synthetic.

    Can I change it now?
    I mean, engine would be fine by suddenly changing the grade?
    What is the best brand?
    And how would I know if it is fully synthetic or not? Is there a label on the bottle?
    Please advise

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    Please advise me, should I switch to liqui moly 10w40, with MoS2.
    Any comments,,, please guide me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    2009 model and using 20W50. Are Toyota Motors in their senses?
    Your engine wear and tear will be very high with this grade of oil specially during winter.
    Go for a thinner oil, like 5W30 or 10W30 or 5W40 full synthetic.

    Please advise me, should I switch to liqui moly 10w40, with MoS2.
    Any comments,,, please guide me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagleeyez View Post
    Please advise me, should I switch to liqui moly 10w40, with MoS2.
    Any comments,,, please guide me.
    Do not go beyond 5W40 full synthetic, API / SN.

    Anything called synthetic blend is not full synthetic.
    For full synthetic, it's written on the gallon like "fully synthetic" oil.
    Best is 5W40. Use any famous brand, Shell, Total Quartz 9000, Liquimoly etc.
    It's better to get rid of 20W50 at the earliest.
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