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    I have Vitz 2006 1.0 Model which has recently done 80 K Mileage .Just wondering what needs to be checked ,replaced at 80K Mark (e.g. ATF , Fan/Generator Belt etc...) . Going to Toyota Dealership and asking for such a checklist is a total rip-off as they make you feel everything needs to be replaced

    Can someone provide a detailed checklist for 80,000 Mileage for Vitz or guide?


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    Check all the fluids including Transmission oil (change if required),
    Check all the belts (change if required),
    Check the plugs (change if required),
    Do the tuning,
    Check the brakes (change if required)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitz_2006 View Post
    Experts !

    I have Vitz 2006 1.0 Model which has recently done 80 K Mileage .Just wondering what needs to be checked ,replaced at 80K Mark (e.g. ATF , Fan/Generator Belt etc...) . Going to Toyota Dealership and asking for such a checklist is a total rip-off as they make you feel everything needs to be replaced

    Can someone provide a detailed checklist for 80,000 Mileage for Vitz or guide?
    Get the following checked/inspected:
    1) Brake pads / shoes(replace if required)/ carry out front disc skimming if required
    2) Suspension system (bushings etc)
    3) Tie rod inner/outer ends (replace if required)
    4) Drive axle joint rubber boots
    5) Wheel bearings (replace if required)

    Replace the following:
    1) Radiator coolant
    2) Radiator / cooling system hoses
    3) Thermostatic valve
    4) PCV valve
    5) Brake fluid (flushing and replacement)
    6) Transmission oil along with filter
    7) Spark plugs
    8) Fuel injection nozzle ultrasonic cleaning
    9) Throttle body cleaning (if not done earlier)
    10) Serpentine belts / all belts
    11) A/C cabin filter

    Note: Do not compromise on the cooling system ( radiator hose replacement) under any circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    Get the following checked/inspected:
    1) Brake pads / shoes(replace if required)/ carry out front disc skimming if required
    2) Suspension system (bushings etc)2) Radiator / cooling system hoses
    3) Tie rod inner/outer ends (replace if required)
    4) Drive axle joint rubber boots
    5) Wheel bearings (replace if required)

    Replace the following:
    1) Radiator coolant
    2) Radiator / cooling system hoses
    3) Thermostatic valve
    4) PCV valve
    5) Brake fluid (flushing and replacement)
    6) Transmission oil along with filter
    7) Spark plugs
    8) Fuel injection nozzle ultrasonic cleaning
    9) Throttle body cleaning (if not done earlier)
    10) Serpentine belts / all belts
    11) A/C cabin filter

    Note: Do not compromise on the cooling system ( radiator hose replacement) under any circumstances.

    Do we really need to replace the following (even if they apparently seem to be ok)

    Radiator / cooling system hoses

    Thermostatic valve
    PCV valve

    What is the reason?

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    [QUOTE=vitz_2006;4734887]Do we really need to replace the following (even if they apparently seem to be ok)
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    Radiator / cooling system hoses

    Thermostatic valve
    PCV valve

    1) It's utmost important to replace cooling system ( radiator inlet/ oulet hoses), get genuine ones installed. May cause engine heat-up and seizure if old hose leaks while driving. I repeat get genuine ones installed, no compromise.
    2) Get ur thermostatic valve checked ( valve opening temperature to be verified with thermometer once removed and checked in a bucket of heating water). A stuck open valve may cause execessive fuel consumption and if it fails to open then engine will heat up.
    3) Replace PCV ( always good, it's a cheap item). A faulty PCV valve will cause your engine oil becoming black and reducing life of engine.
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    Thanks for the detailed response
    One last point ; where to get fuel injectors cleaned in Lahore and how much does it usually cost?

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    What maintenance was carried out when this car was purchased by you and what was the ododmeter reading then.(do you keep these records) Is there any history? Are you a DIY. If you are, then you can save a good amount of money and carry out most of what is listed by @imrananr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitz_2006 View Post
    Thanks for the detailed response
    One last point ; where to get fuel injectors cleaned in Lahore and how much does it usually cost?
    Sorry I have no idea from where it is done in Lahore.
    But you can also use fuel injector cleaner which is added to into the fuel tank.
    What I have used is 3M fuel injector cleaner and am happy with it. You can also buy one from Toyota 3S which is from Toyota itself. But again, this method of cleaning of fuel injectors is not a substitute to ultrasonic cleaning of fuel injectors along with the report.
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    Went to Toyota 3S today and they have no idea about PCV valve
    For remaining they gave me the following prices (parts only)

    Hose Radiator = 1,593/-
    Hose Radiator Inlet = 2,156/-
    Thermostat = 2,788/-


    Should I buy after market "Genuine" parts from Montgomery road or should go with 3S
    Prices are approx Rs. 1000 per part more from 3S

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    Can someone guide about PCV valve , preferably with a picture showing its location in Vitz 2006, as Toyota 3S has no idea about it (checked at two different dealerships)

    Also I changed CVT Fluid at 50K from Toyota 3S, so should I change it at 80 K (after 30,000) or at 90 K (after 40,000) or at 100 K(after 50,000) ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitz_2006 View Post
    Can someone guide about PCV valve , preferably with a picture showing its location in Vitz 2006, as Toyota 3S has no idea about it (checked at two different dealerships)

    Also I changed CVT Fluid at 50K from Toyota 3S, so should I change it at 80 K (after 30,000) or at 90 K (after 40,000) or at 100 K(after 50,000) ?
    It's called Valve sub -assembly, ventilation as per toyota parts description. I guess part number is 12204-xxxxx.

    Check link blew for PCV location. Just an idea. Its on the ventilation hose.

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    Since you have replaced the transmission oil on 50,000, now next change should be at 90,000 KM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitz_2006 View Post
    Went to Toyota 3S today and they have no idea about PCV valve
    For remaining they gave me the following prices (parts only)

    Hose Radiator = 1,593/-
    Hose Radiator Inlet = 2,156/-
    Thermostat = 2,788/-


    Should I buy after market "Genuine" parts from Montgomery road or should go with 3S
    Prices are approx Rs. 1000 per part more from 3S
    I would go with Toyota 3S.
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    First thing are you 100% sure that your car have done 80000 KM ??
    as 90 % of the Japanese cars have tempered meter readings when they sold in Pakistan .
    so the list will be quite different if it have changed odometer reading .

    as far as 80K reading is concerned its not a big mark.

    -OIL & Filter
    -Air Filter
    - Flush & Replace Brake fluid.
    - Adjust Hand Brake if Required.
    - Most Probably Front Brake pads as usually they wear around 70K (but purely depend on driving style)
    - I think there is no cabin Filter in Vitz hatch so no need to change.
    - Balance and Rotate Tyres
    - Replace Spark Plugs
    - Change in tank fuel filter.
    - Clean Throttle body.
    - inspect Drive belt
    - Injector Cleaning

    rest no need to change any thing .
    Coolant & Transmission flush will be carried out at 100K usually as per Toyota standards if you using Toyota original oils and coolant .
    I remember Toyota system use to give us 50 minutes time to do all this while training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joinami View Post
    First thing are you 100% sure that your car have done 80000 KM ??
    as 90 % of the Japanese cars have tempered meter readings when they sold in Pakistan .
    so the list will be quite different if it have changed odometer reading .

    as far as 80K reading is concerned its not a big mark.

    -OIL & Filter
    -Air Filter
    - Flush & Replace Brake fluid.
    - Adjust Hand Brake if Required.
    - Most Probably Front Brake pads as usually they wear around 70K (but purely depend on driving style)
    - I think there is no cabin Filter in Vitz hatch so no need to change.
    - Balance and Rotate Tyres
    - Replace Spark Plugs
    - Change in tank fuel filter.
    - Clean Throttle body.
    - inspect Drive belt
    - Injector Cleaning

    rest no need to change any thing .
    Coolant & Transmission flush will be carried out at 100K usually as per Toyota standards if you using Toyota original oils and coolant .
    I remember Toyota system use to give us 50 minutes time to do all this while training.
    Based on the responses received , I have consolidated the list and following has been done at Toyota 3S
    Inspection:
    1. Brake pads / shoes(replace if required)/ carry out front disc skimming if required = Done ,no replacement and skimming was required . As per mechanics ,it is good for another 20K
    2. Suspension system (bushings etc) = Done ,no replacement required yet
    3. Tie rod inner/outer ends (replace if required) = Done ,no replacement required yet
    4. Drive axle joint rubber boots = Done ,no replacement required yet
    5. Wheel bearings (replace if required) = Done ,no replacement required yet

    Replacement:
    1. Radiator coolant = Done
    2. Brake fluid (flushing and replacement) = Done
    3. Transmission oil along with filter = Will be done at 90K as last was done at 50K
    4. Spark plugs = Done
    5. Serpentine belts / all belts = Done . Vitz 2006 has only 1 belt (generator belt)
    6. A/C cabin filter = Done
    7. OIL & Filter = Done
    8. Air Filter = Done
    9. Flush & Replace Brake fluid. = Done
    10. Adjust Hand Brake if Required. = Done
    11. Front Brake pads = Done , no replacement and skimming was required . As per mechanics ,it is good for another 20K
    12. Balance and Rotate Tyres = Pending
    13. Change in tank fuel filter. = Pending
    Is it really required ?. How to check if its replacement is required(as its a very expensive part)?. What if it is not replaced , can it cause any damage?
    14. Radiator / cooling system hoses = Pending
    Is it really required ?. How to check if its replacement is required?
    15. Thermostatic valve = Pending
    Is it really required ?. How to check if its replacement is required?
    16. PCV valve= Pending
    Is it really required ?. How to check if its replacement is required?
    17. Fuel injection nozzle ultrasonic cleaning = Pending
    Is it safe and worth to get it done at 80 K mark (I would go for Toyoto 3S). Are there any chances of any mess up /issues arising later due to this dismantling and cleaning process of nozzles ?
    18. Throttle body cleaning = Pending
    Done at 70K around 5 months ago . Do I still need to do it at 80 K ?, as in another thread experts are suggesting an interval of 30-40 K and some experts are suggesting 100K interval

    Lastly is there any other item that needs to be replaced /inspected that is not in the above list?

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    You already have done more than enough , keep enjoying your ride now .

    Just check rubber pipes physically for any wear and replace if require .
    Rest no need to change any thing .
    As per Toyota requirements in Tank filter need to be replaced at this much mileage .
    Do remember to use new O rings and locking ring while putting back the pump and filter assembly .
    And SST is required to open the ring of the pump assy .



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    One more query:
    Just checked the price of Fuel filter
    Toyota 3S dealership = PKR 16,000/-
    Genuine After market = PKR 6,500/-

    So 3S is Rs. 9,500/- more expensive.
    Any idea if there is a difference between 'after market genuine' and 'Toyota 3S' fuel filter ?
    Which one to go for as price difference is very significant ?

    @ imrananr : Your comments are also required

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitz_2006 View Post
    One more query:
    Just checked the price of Fuel filter
    Toyota 3S dealership = PKR 16,000/-
    Genuine After market = PKR 6,500/-

    So 3S is Rs. 9,500/- more expensive.
    Any idea if there is a difference between 'after market genuine' and 'Toyota 3S' fuel filter ?
    Which one to go for as price difference is very significant ?

    @ imrananr : Your comments are also required
    First of all, I appreciate that all the inspections / replacements that I had posted earlier were considered and I thank you that you have showed confidence in me. You have raised some concerns with regards to some of the parts I had asked to replace which are justified. Please see my response below:

    1) Radiator inlet/outlet hose replacement: Actually, you can prolong the replacement of hoses to 100K+ if visually found OK. The reason for me to insist on replacement is that you will be mentally trouble free for the next 80K+ mileage. If you do not replace now, then you may have to keep an eye on it till it's replaced. And if the hoses puncture or fail, then you know the consequences. Visual inspection of rubber hose which is connected and hardened over time is not 100% satisfactory.
    2) Thermostatic valve: same goes with the thermostatic valve as described in 1.
    3) PCV: Usaually a neglected part. Seldom changed. But my understanding and experience is that with 80,000 on the odometer, it's functionality reduces considerably and is better to replace not necessary.
    4) Fuel filter : it's always better to replace filters, but please consult the workshop about their capability of doing it. As Joinami has pointed out that a special service tool is required so please confirm it's available in the workshop. Replacing the fuel filter will prolong the life of your injector nozzles.
    5) Use fuel injector cleaning additive I initially and see the results. It not satisfied, go for ultrasonic cleaning.

    Take care bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitz_2006 View Post
    Based on the responses received , I have consolidated the list and following has been done at Toyota 3S
    Inspection:
    1. Brake pads / shoes(replace if required)/ carry out front disc skimming if required = Done ,no replacement and skimming was required . As per mechanics ,it is good for another 20K
    2. Suspension system (bushings etc) = Done ,no replacement required yet
    3. Tie rod inner/outer ends (replace if required) = Done ,no replacement required yet
    4. Drive axle joint rubber boots = Done ,no replacement required yet
    5. Wheel bearings (replace if required) = Done ,no replacement required yet

    Replacement:
    1. Radiator coolant = Done
    2. Brake fluid (flushing and replacement) = Done
    3. Transmission oil along with filter = Will be done at 90K as last was done at 50K
    4. Spark plugs = Done
    5. Serpentine belts / all belts = Done . Vitz 2006 has only 1 belt (generator belt)
    6. A/C cabin filter = Done
    7. OIL & Filter = Done
    8. Air Filter = Done
    9. Flush & Replace Brake fluid. = Done
    10. Adjust Hand Brake if Required. = Done
    11. Front Brake pads = Done , no replacement and skimming was required . As per mechanics ,it is good for another 20K
    12. Balance and Rotate Tyres = Pending
    13. Change in tank fuel filter. = Pending
    Is it really required ?. How to check if its replacement is required(as its a very expensive part)?. What if it is not replaced , can it cause any damage?
    14. Radiator / cooling system hoses = Pending
    Is it really required ?. How to check if its replacement is required?
    15. Thermostatic valve = Pending
    Is it really required ?. How to check if its replacement is required?
    16. PCV valve= Pending
    Is it really required ?. How to check if its replacement is required?
    17. Fuel injection nozzle ultrasonic cleaning = Pending
    Is it safe and worth to get it done at 80 K mark (I would go for Toyoto 3S). Are there any chances of any mess up /issues arising later due to this dismantling and cleaning process of nozzles ?
    18. Throttle body cleaning = Pending
    Done at 70K around 5 months ago . Do I still need to do it at 80 K ?, as in another thread experts are suggesting an interval of 30-40 K and some experts are suggesting 100K interval

    Lastly is there any other item that needs to be replaced /inspected that is not in the above list?
    Do not go for throttle body cleaning as it has been done at 70K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    First of all, I appreciate that all the inspections / replacements that I had posted earlier were considered and I thank you that you have showed confidence in me. You have raised some concerns with regards to some of the parts I had asked to replace which are justified. Please see my response below:

    1) Radiator inlet/outlet hose replacement: Actually, you can prolong the replacement of hoses to 100K+ if visually found OK. The reason for me to insist on replacement is that you will be mentally trouble free for the next 80K+ mileage. If you do not replace now, then you may have to keep an eye on it till it's replaced. And if the hoses puncture or fail, then you know the consequences. Visual inspection of rubber hose which is connected and hardened over time is not 100% satisfactory.
    2) Thermostatic valve: same goes with the thermostatic valve as described in 1.
    3) PCV: Usaually a neglected part. Seldom changed. But my understanding and experience is that with 80,000 on the odometer, it's functionality reduces considerably and is better to replace not necessary.
    4) Fuel filter : it's always better to replace filters, but please consult the workshop about their capability of doing it. As Joinami has pointed out that a special service tool is required so please confirm it's available in the workshop. Replacing the fuel filter will prolong the life of your injector nozzles.
    5) Use fuel injector cleaning additive I initially and see the results. It not satisfied, go for ultrasonic cleaning.

    Take care bro.
    Went to the Toyota Walton today to get Thermostatic valve and PCV valve inspected/serviced/replaced and following was the result:
    ? PCV VALVE : After 15-20 minutes of explanation aided by PCV value and its location diagrams , none of the mechanic could understand what I am asking for .So they took me to their manager who finally seemed to be some sort of knowledgeable person and knew something about PCV valve . According to him its neither a serviceable part nor can be inspected (I doubt inspection part as rattling sound test is used to check its conditions or suction test can be done) . It is only replaced and replaced ONLY when the problem comes . Indication of faulty PCV valve is high RPM and black smoke .According to him ,no one ever has asked for its service or inspection in their history J … they just replace it in case of a problem.
    His Recommendation: If there is no problem ,donot touch it . Replace only when it becomes faulty
    Lastly , I have checked at 4-5 3S dealerships in Lahore ,and none has PCV value.They can arrange one upon special request

    ? THERMOSTAT VALVE:. According to manager , this can be inspected as follows(but they need to disassemble it from the radiator):
    Using a thermometer, they will check if valve opens between 72C-80 C and check for rust. But this is a useless test for me as I already know that it does open as the radiator fan starts and stops at regular intervals.
    However this part is not serviceable and is replaced ONLY when it become faulty .There is a red light indication of faulty thermostat valve since the car will heat up in case of fault thermostat
    His Recommendation: If there is no problem , donot touch it .Replace only when it becomes faulty

    After that I visited Toyota Cantt 3S and they had the same view point for the above two

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitz_2006 View Post
    Went to the Toyota Walton today to get Thermostatic valve and PCV valve inspected/serviced/replaced and following was the result:
    ? PCV VALVE : After 15-20 minutes of explanation aided by PCV value and its location diagrams , none of the mechanic could understand what I am asking for .So they took me to their manager who finally seemed to be some sort of knowledgeable person and knew something about PCV valve . According to him its neither a serviceable part nor can be inspected (I doubt inspection part as rattling sound test is used to check its conditions or suction test can be done) . It is only replaced and replaced ONLY when the problem comes . Indication of faulty PCV valve is high RPM and black smoke .According to him ,no one ever has asked for its service or inspection in their history J … they just replace it in case of a problem.
    His Recommendation: If there is no problem ,donot touch it . Replace only when it becomes faulty
    Lastly , I have checked at 4-5 3S dealerships in Lahore ,and none has PCV value.They can arrange one upon special request

    ? THERMOSTAT VALVE:. According to manager , this can be inspected as follows(but they need to disassemble it from the radiator):
    Using a thermometer, they will check if valve opens between 72C-80 C and check for rust. But this is a useless test for me as I already know that it does open as the radiator fan starts and stops at regular intervals.
    However this part is not serviceable and is replaced ONLY when it become faulty .There is a red light indication of faulty thermostat valve since the car will heat up in case of fault thermostat
    His Recommendation: If there is no problem , donot touch it .Replace only when it becomes faulty

    After that I visited Toyota Cantt 3S and they had the same view point for the above two
    Just one word "very pathetic".
    Don't leave a highway for a byway....

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