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    Lets all contribute pics and memories to this timeless classic that has faithfully served generations. It is my 1st car memory and my dad who is a Beetle enthusiast at one time had a total of 4 beetles in our garage Here's a little history of this miraculous German wonder: 'The history of the Beetle really goes back to pre 2nd world war Germany when Ferdinand Porsche had a vision of a mass produced vehicle that was affordable to the average German, an idea that was shared with the young Adolf Hitler who himself could not drive, but was a car fanatic. Hitler was apparently influenced by the achievements of Henry Ford and his production lines - reading Ford's biography while in prison during 1923. Porsche had previously worked on some other small cars that used many elements later to be included in the Beetle. The Type 32 prototype NSU of 1934 was an air-cooled rear engined four cylinder horizontally opposed powered car that used torsion bar suspension and featured beetle-like styling.' --- source - Google.co.uk lets keep the posts rolling - add pics of bugs you've owned or own! I'll add my dad's bug family pics as well ... I guess he fell in love with this oddly shaped car after he drove it down to Pakistan from Germany!!!! .. stories of that wonderous journey keep us entertained whenever our family gets together


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    it's all good timeless,.. i consider it depreciation
    1. A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, 2. Resale wont save your life in an accident, 3. Genius has limits, stupidity has none, 4. Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level & beat you with experience, 5. Growing old beats the alternative -- dying young! 6. انّا للہ و انّا الیہ راجعون

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    as far as i know classics per depreciation ke chances kam hotay hain
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    ab tho gayi, aur udhaas tho mat kar yaar...
    1. A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, 2. Resale wont save your life in an accident, 3. Genius has limits, stupidity has none, 4. Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level & beat you with experience, 5. Growing old beats the alternative -- dying young! 6. انّا للہ و انّا الیہ راجعون

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    okz okz ill change my words
    itni achi price main baichdi werna tu classic per bohat nuqsan hota hai
    ab khush
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    LOL!!! good one.
    1. A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, 2. Resale wont save your life in an accident, 3. Genius has limits, stupidity has none, 4. Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level & beat you with experience, 5. Growing old beats the alternative -- dying young! 6. انّا للہ و انّا الیہ راجعون

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    khush rahoo yaar classic gayii baat gayii
    Hell was Full So I Came Back..!!!!

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    I searched for a Wizard Beetle and man, these things are hot!

    Volkswagen Club of Pakistan VWCOP -648001


    Volkswagen Club of Pakistan VWCOP -648002


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    Volkswagen Club of Pakistan VWCOP -648004


    Volkswagen Club of Pakistan VWCOP -648005


    Found this too. can you guesss which way is it going?

    Volkswagen Club of Pakistan VWCOP -648006


    You guys reckon a Pakistani mechanic can build a replica of that silver Wizard?

    Yes doc, i read your post. Let that be for Hebmullers only

    and what do you think, can a Wizard be made in Pak? I think im in love....
    "The rough, hard idle swells up and out from under the car, ricochets off other cars, and rams into the ears of the driver, the spectators. You think twice about a 383 Road Runner, but a hemi only once -- and let it pass."

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    Psyborg...

    I think you just posted this in the wrong topic............I just replied to ur wizard querry in the Hebmuller topic........

    @Storm...

    Ruksati ho gaye aur humay pata bhi nahi chala!!!

    Sad to see a loved car go isnt it?? Well Im glad you got a good price and above all as u say it went to a VW lover. Is he/she on PW????

    Regards.

    Everythings possible but u need....TIME, PASSION (for perfection also) and most important MONEY!!!

    Can be done easily I think. Not as difficult as a Hebmuller replica which has already been done.

    Just one thing.....dont start with an original good condition bug as your base car!!!
    If there are no Beetles in heaven, Im not going!!!

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    gotcha doc. Looks like my first beetle would be a Wizard!

    dayum its hot!
    "The rough, hard idle swells up and out from under the car, ricochets off other cars, and rams into the ears of the driver, the spectators. You think twice about a 383 Road Runner, but a hemi only once -- and let it pass."

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    Good luck!!


    But please dont spoil a nice bug n use as a base.

    And u can search the internet and find blueprints for the conversion.......
    If there are no Beetles in heaven, Im not going!!!

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    well i think i got caried away. it would still take me a couple of months to get a car. and dont worry, im not one of those cruel ppl who spoil originals for fun...
    "The rough, hard idle swells up and out from under the car, ricochets off other cars, and rams into the ears of the driver, the spectators. You think twice about a 383 Road Runner, but a hemi only once -- and let it pass."

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    Great!!!!

    Good to hear that from you. Let me know when ur ready to begin ur bughunt!!
    If there are no Beetles in heaven, Im not going!!!

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    For sale Beetle 1303 s any one like tell me
    M 03008619999
    E hotadeel@hotmail.com

    Volkswagen Club of Pakistan VWCOP -648043


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    Before when I bought the beetle
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    yaar adeel kya yaad kara dyaa tum ne lo phir mere ex 1303s dekho jo main nee 2 month ago @storm bhi ko only 60k mee da de thee.
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    I am a beetle banda also, I would some day love to buy a 1303s but the thing is that i have almost never come across a right hand drive version of this car in Pakistan. Can somebody explain to me why this is so.


    By the way, Storm Bhai luved your car and would have bought it if i had the money, no questions asked!!!!!
    KNOW THYSELF!---When it is dark enough, you can see the stars---Is it us who live in fantasy, or is it reality, which is unreal.---The thoughts you have,is the stuff you are--Billy was a thirsty boy but now he is no more, cause' what he thought was H2O was H2SO4.

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    @ autobanda you mean left hand drive....
    "The rough, hard idle swells up and out from under the car, ricochets off other cars, and rams into the ears of the driver, the spectators. You think twice about a 383 Road Runner, but a hemi only once -- and let it pass."

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    @ autobanda


    Most are LHD as they have been imported personally by people probably from the US or other LHD countries.

    There ARE RHD supers out there too. You just need to look harder!!

    @hotadeel

    Whats your demand for the super????

    Regards.
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    @asad
    it happened so quikcly that i barely had tme to post the details. BYW did either of us even answer what the box on the firewall was of te 1303? (i'm sure alot of people will be shocked to hear what it is,... specially to be found in such an old car)

    @ahsen
    The project will start in abot 2 months hopefully. It's being used by my mechaninc at the moment as his car is being rebuilt.
    1. A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, 2. Resale wont save your life in an accident, 3. Genius has limits, stupidity has none, 4. Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level & beat you with experience, 5. Growing old beats the alternative -- dying young! 6. انّا للہ و انّا الیہ راجعون

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    @asadishaque

    thanks for the reply dude, yaar the thing is that, i have a lack of knowledge of the Beetle scene here. I would definitely like to rectify this situation and i believe that you guys can help me out.

    First, after my observations I came to the conclusion that the ultimate Beetle to have is a 1303s, as i thought these were only available in 1600cc format, then yesterday i saw a 1300cc 1303s. What is the chakkar, and what about the plastic dash, does only the 1303s come with a plastic dash, or the 1303s is also available in no-dashboard format. And how great is there a difference between a other Beetles and a 1303s 1600cc.

    As you can see I am totally 'paidal' in most aspects related to the Beetle. I would love it if anybody could increase my knowledge.

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    THE HISTORY OF THE BEETLE
    The history of the Beetle started in 1934 when in the Hall of Berlin Adolf Hitler announced that the car had not to be an exclusive privilege of the rich. To Ferdinand Porsche, defined by him as "the most famous designer of all time", he entrusted the assignment to construct the Volkswagen (the people's car); and he did not limit himself just to the definition of the name, but dictated also terms about the peculiarities thet it had to have (speed, consumption, price, etc...).
    In '36 the first 3 prototypes were ready (two sedans and one cabriolet) so that, a little bit later, Hitler entrusted the task to find out the suitable place to build up the factory of the future Beetle .
    The place was located in a vaste zone of the Low Sassonia, in the surroundings of the castle of Wolfsburg of Earl Von Schulenberg, who was dispossessed of his land.
    In '38 it took place the ceremony of the laying of the foundation stone of that factory which became (and it is still) the biggest car factory of automobiles in the world.
    The name chosen for the future Beetle was KDF Wagen (Kraft Durch Freude Wagen), that is "Car of the force by means of joy"
    It is no use saying that Porsche tried to set himself against such name, but the choice came from Hitler personally, and there was nothing to do.
    In '39 the KDF-Wagen officially appeared at the Hall of Berlin and it was such a modern and revolutionary car to make the competitors look like nothing (see Technique).
    In September '39 the Second World War began and the civil production of the Beetle was converted in military production; that had much importance for the future of the Beetle because on account of the war it had to sustain the hardest test which no other car had ever been submitted before (and today).
    And it got off very well: in any climatic condition (from torrid Africa to icy Russia) and in any sort of ground (in the mud, in the sand and the snow) the Beetle never stopped indeed.
    In this period the KÜBELWAGEN (car "made like a bucket", built in many versions), and the SCHWIMMWAGEN (car "which could swim", be able to achieve the speed of 10 Km/h in the water), and many other military models were built.
    In May '45 the war was over and it remained up only the third part of the factory of Wolfsburg, seriously damaged by the bombardment.
    They thought to demolish it, but thanks, above all, to the Major Ivan Hirst (who it had been trusted to) the English changed their mind and, some years later, gave it back to the Germans, entrusting the task to manage it to Heinz Nordhoff.
    In the meantime the workers, with the last materials saved from the bombardment, had laboriously started building the Beetle again, but the production had very low levels.
    And it was just Nordhoff to do the "miracle": from a few hundred cars produced in '46 the productions went to 19.000 in the '48 and 46.000 in the '49 in a continuous and exponential growth which slowed down only in the middle seventies.
    In that period of time, many technical improvements were continuously introduced, however without never touching the original look and formulation of Porsche's project.
    And with regard to Porsche: where was he?
    Porsche was prisoner in France even accused by Pierre Peugeot of war crimes (while it seems that Porsche himself had helped him, preventing that he was arrested by the Gestapo).
    In '47 he was declared innocent and was set free, but he could go back to Germany only in '49.
    It seems that during his homecoming, seeing many Beetles along the motorways, he was moved nearly to tears.
    He died on 30 January 1951 without being able to know what "incredible career" his Beetle would have made in future.
    In those years the exports began in other countries : Holland, Denmark, Luxembourg, Sweden, Belgium, Switzerland and United States.
    In '53 the Brazilian production started with the affiliated firm "Volkswagen of Brasil" and the "Volkswagen of America" was built too; in '64 another overseas branch was built, the "Volkswagen de Mexico", and in '66 a factory opened in South Africa too.
    In '55 the millionth Beetle was built and, for that occasion, it was made in gold metalized colour, with brocade seats and embellishments in little glass pearls on the chromizings.
    In the meantime in all the Countries where the Beetle was constructed or exported the sales grew constantly: in Italy in '63, 42.000 Beetles were registered and in America who wished to buy it, had to wait up to 5 months.
    In '67 the look of the Beetle was remarkably modified: the headlight became round and vertical, the bumpers squared and increased , the tail lights magnified and the electrical system was strengthened (from 6 to 12 Volt).
    Even in '70 there was an important newness: in fact, the Super Beetle (mod.1302 and 1302/S) was born.
    Substantial differences regarded the appearance (a front hood more "plumper") and the mechanics (McPherson front chassis and rear axle with double flexible shafts) that were further modified in '73 with the Super Beetle mod.1303 (curved anterior glass and new dash-board stuffing).
    As it was already said, in the course of the years improvements never gave up, and it is interesting to notice that they were almost always ahead of their time and, therefore, destined to set a fashion; like the water resistant sun roof cover in PVC (1955), the tubeless tyres (1957) or the acrylic painting rather than the nitro painting (1949).
    Besides, in confirmation of the reached reliability and of the high qualitative standards as about the used material as the assembly lines, it is important to notice that already in '54 the running in time was eliminated.
    Since '74, periodically, special series were built in a limited number, which had very particular inner fittings and colourations.
    The Jeans, the City, the Big, the Special Bug, the Fioriserie, the Winter, the Samtrot, the Silver Bug were built, and in '87, in order to celebrate the 50th year since its birth, the last one of the series was born, considered the best by the most: the Beetle of the Jubilee (Jubiläums-käfer).
    It was metalized grey and it had athermic, blue-tinted windshield, printed steel sports rims, the steering wheel of the Golf GTI and greys inners with strip of several tonalities.
    In the middle seventies sales began to decrease and in '74 they decided to move the Beetle production from Wolfsburg to Emden in order to make place to the new car: the Golf.
    In the '78 the European production definitively stopped and the Beetle continued being built only in Mexico, from where it was imported in Europe.
    In '76 the Super Beetle sedan building stopped, and it will be built only in the cabriolet version, but only until 1980.

    Recently also the production in Mexico has been stopped, anyway the Beetle is not likely to disappear from the roads of our planet: great part of the 22 million of models built cover Km and Km every day along the roads all over the world, asking in exchange only a little bit of oil and petrol.

    And their owners are sure of one thing: if they love it and they treat it well, "he" will never betray them.
    KNOW THYSELF!---When it is dark enough, you can see the stars---Is it us who live in fantasy, or is it reality, which is unreal.---The thoughts you have,is the stuff you are--Billy was a thirsty boy but now he is no more, cause' what he thought was H2O was H2SO4.

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    welcome auto banda welcome to beetle world
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