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    Default Volkswagen Club of Pakistan (VWCOP)

    Lets all contribute pics and memories to this timeless classic that has faithfully served generations. It is my 1st car memory and my dad who is a Beetle enthusiast at one time had a total of 4 beetles in our garage Here's a little history of this miraculous German wonder: 'The history of the Beetle really goes back to pre 2nd world war Germany when Ferdinand Porsche had a vision of a mass produced vehicle that was affordable to the average German, an idea that was shared with the young Adolf Hitler who himself could not drive, but was a car fanatic. Hitler was apparently influenced by the achievements of Henry Ford and his production lines - reading Ford's biography while in prison during 1923. Porsche had previously worked on some other small cars that used many elements later to be included in the Beetle. The Type 32 prototype NSU of 1934 was an air-cooled rear engined four cylinder horizontally opposed powered car that used torsion bar suspension and featured beetle-like styling.' --- source - Google.co.uk lets keep the posts rolling - add pics of bugs you've owned or own! I'll add my dad's bug family pics as well ... I guess he fell in love with this oddly shaped car after he drove it down to Pakistan from Germany!!!! .. stories of that wonderous journey keep us entertained whenever our family gets together


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    Quote Originally Posted by NaveedRizvi View Post
    1. My own rag-top 56 Oval
    2. My newest acquisition 59 rag-top
    3. Dr. Asad's 59 rag-top
    4. Fahad Panni's silver 59 rag-top
    5. The white rag-top that surfaced in Karachi
    6. The jungle green 55-56 Oval rag-top in Karachi owned by Narius Dubash
    7. Aleem's lost rag-top
    8. A sky blue 63 ragtop in Khi owned by one Asim known to my mobile as Asim ragtop
    9. A mettalic green ragtop recently restored also in Khi
    @NaveedRizvi I believe you are referring to this one here in below post from @Aleem1 on page 193:

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleem1 View Post
    Hello All,


    Just wanted to ask: does anyone have any idea who owns this early '60s Ragtop in Karachi? Is the owner willing to sell? Saw these pics on VWCOP's Picasaweb Album.

    Any information highly appreciated.




    Volkswagen Club of Pakistan VWCOP -1015683



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    So as I see it, the RT thing is no more THAT uncommon now as we almost have a dozen on record now. And if there are these "almost dozen" that we know of, I am guessing there could possibly be even more out there still waiting to be found. Say another 3? Or may be another 6? I mean who knows honestly.

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    So the list of known rag tops in Pakistan is as follows:

    1. My own rag-top 56 Oval
    2. My newest acquisition 59 rag-top
    3. Dr. Asad's 59 rag-top
    4. Fahad Panni's silver 59 rag-top
    5. The white rag-top that surfaced in Karachi
    6. The jungle green 55-56 Oval rag-top in Karachi owned by Narius Dubash
    7. Aleem's lost rag-top
    8. A sky blue 63 ragtop in Khi owned by one Asim known to my mobile as Asim ragtop
    9. A mettalic green ragtop recently restored also in Khi
    10.Adil Ikram's coral red(?) 59 rag-top in Islamabad
    11. The Lahore rag-top RIF 8253

    It would be great if we can put the owners names against all these bugs.

    Thank you everyone and stay on the look-out for any other rag-tops out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by reezvaan View Post
    @NaveedRizvi I believe you are referring to this one here in below post from @Aleem1 on page 193:



    So as I see it, the RT thing is no more THAT uncommon now as we almost have a dozen on record now. And if there are these "almost dozen" that we know of, I am guessing there could possibly be even more out there still waiting to be found. Say another 3? Or may be another 6? I mean who knows honestly.
    Not at all rare... desirable but not rare
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    Quote Originally Posted by nmshaikh View Post
    So the list of known rag tops in Pakistan is as follows:

    1. My own rag-top 56 Oval
    2. My newest acquisition 59 rag-top
    3. Dr. Asad's 59 rag-top
    4. Fahad Panni's silver 59 rag-top
    5. The white rag-top that surfaced in Karachi
    6. The jungle green 55-56 Oval rag-top in Karachi owned by Narius Dubash
    7. Aleem's lost rag-top
    8. A sky blue 63 ragtop in Khi owned by one Asim known to my mobile as Asim ragtop
    9. A mettalic green ragtop recently restored also in Khi
    10.Adil Ikram's coral red(?) 59 rag-top in Islamabad
    11. The Lahore rag-top RIF 8253

    It would be great if we can put the owners names against all these bugs.

    Thank you everyone and stay on the look-out for any other rag-tops out there
    I believe VWCOP now needs to provide for a VW Registry in all Classes/Types/Categories of VWs and not just the ragtops. Having names of ragtop owners alone shall not do. We need to get a bit more organized. We may be light years ahead of VCCCP but we are light years behind other VW Clubs across globe.

    Plz let us know how we can help and we would be glad to do our bits designated to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reezvaan View Post
    I believe VWCOP now needs to provide for a VW Registry in all Classes/Types/Categories of VWs and not just the ragtops. Having names of ragtop owners alone shall not do. We need to get a bit more organized. We may be light years ahead of VCCCP but we are light years behind other VW Clubs across globe.

    Plz let us know how we can help and we would be glad to do our bits designated to us.
    We started compiling the lists as far back as 1998 and kept updating them too. However they were on excel and at some point we got busy with other stuff and ....

    We could start again and maintain a registry of cars by each chapter of VWCOP.

    You can start with Multan and share your list with Lahore chapter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nmshaikh View Post
    We started compiling the lists as far back as 1998 and kept updating them too. However they were on excel and at some point we got busy with other stuff and ....

    We could start again and maintain a registry of cars by each chapter of VWCOP.

    You can start with Multan and share your list with Lahore chapter.
    I can do that, I already have all the VWs in Multan accounted for with pictures. I can do BWP as well as DGK too which have a couple of VWs each.

    Let me know who to forward the information in LHR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrukhahmed View Post
    Dear All,

    In an attempt to gather the data of all the members / owners in a database, I am attaching a simple form. I would appreciate if you could take out a couple of minutes to fill in the fields as it will help us to contact each other for any events/promotions or important information.

    The database shall be available to anyone who wishes to utilize this valuable information.

    Thank you for your support!

    Hello folks...hope everyone is as excited about the bug meet on 25th as i am. why don't we register ourselves here so everyone is accounted for at the meetup.

    MJ has taken a wonderful step in reviving the club. let us all help out and turn this into a regular thing.

    Please submit your details on the form so we you can be easily contacted.

    <IFRAME height=849 marginHeight=0 src="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/embeddedform?formkey=dHRHSnhmZUtzUWNFNTBOZ1lOTVVFR 1E6MQ" frameBorder=0 width=760 marginWidth=0>Loading...</IFRAME>
    For starters we could use something on these lines to ensure uniformity of the database information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reezvaan View Post
    I can do that, I already have all the VWs in Multan accounted for with pictures. I can do BWP as well as DGK too which have a couple of VWs each.

    Let me know who to forward the information in LHR.
    Good work! For now you can hold on to this information. Please make the e-mail a required field as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reezvaan View Post
    @NaveedRizvi I believe you are referring to this one here in below post from @Aleem1 on page 193:
    Could this be Dr. Asad's bug prior to it being stripped of paint and covered in pigeon poop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nmshaikh View Post
    Could this be Dr. Asad's bug prior to it being stripped of paint and covered in pigeon poop?
    No I believe its not. This is early 60s may be a 62/63 and not pre 60s.

    On the contrary this could be the case with the number 7 & number 11 on your final RT list above. Both 7 & 11 could be the same bug. Just a feeling.

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    @ all

    some clarifications:

    1. My long-lost ragtop in Karachi is/was a 1960 (LHD), reg A - 3444. Blueish(?) colour hand-painted when last seen.

    2. No. 11 on Nasir's list is also a 1960 LHD. This car was found and restored in Islamabad sometime in late 2001/2002, and was sold by Dreamcars (F-7/3 on Kohsar Road) by the geezer who owns the showroom, for the tidy sum of PKR 140,000. That was a *("*@ load of money for a VW back then - despite that I missed this car by one day. The new owner had already taken the car to Lahore by then, where it still resides. Good quality resto.

    3. Fahad Panni's ragtop is a 1963 (not 59).

    I would also love to see a list of all known air-cooled VWs known in PK as difficult as this would be.
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    Also...maybe one more known ragtop out there, don't know if it still survives

    One for KHI people to check out.

    Search the wide old salubrious residential roads around Mazar-e-Quaid quite painstakingly, and you may just find...possibly...what remains of a 1962-3 LHD Ragtop that once upon a time was grey, sitting on a heap of crap outside a big old gated house.

    I saw it just once 10 years ago and owner refused to sell, an old and slightly mad Parsi gentleman.

    If it's there, you have my permission to remove it and seize it in my name as a set-off for the unlawful pilferage and/or misappropriation of my 1960 ragtop. Sweet, legal revenge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleem1 View Post
    @ all

    some clarifications:

    1. My long-lost ragtop in Karachi is/was a 1960 (LHD), reg A - 3444. Blueish(?) colour hand-painted when last seen.

    2. No. 11 on Nasir's list is also a 1960 LHD. This car was found and restored in Islamabad sometime in late 2001/2002, and was sold by Dreamcars (F-7/3 on Kohsar Road) by the geezer who owns the showroom, for the tidy sum of PKR 140,000. That was a *("*@ load of money for a VW back then - despite that I missed this car by one day. The new owner had already taken the car to Lahore by then, where it still resides. Good quality resto.

    3. Fahad Panni's ragtop is a 1963 (not 59).

    I would also love to see a list of all known air-cooled VWs known in PK as difficult as this would be.
    You are right. Fahad's car is an early 60's bug

    A list of all known air cooled VW's is possible but hard to say if it would ever be accurate with VW's changing hands frequently as well as being chopped up for scrap. one can try..
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    Default VW Registry of Pakistan - The Registry Form

    Here I have complied a VW Registry Form for a Potential Registry of All Known VWs of Pakistan. Please fill this form guys and help us keep track of VWs that survive as a heritage. In case there is any feedback on the form please let me know and I would make the necessary adjustments to this form. Just click the link below and enter the details about your VW(s):


    http://bit.ly/Hw6gbA


    @Storm / Mods; Can you please make this form a part of the first/title post so that it becomes sticky and everyone could see this at all times.

    Edited: Form Link now added to my signature for ease of access

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleem1 View Post
    I would also love to see a list of all known air-cooled VWs known in PK as difficult as this would be.
    For starters, why dont you click the link of the VW Registry in the above post of mine and add the details on the VW you currently own here in Pakistan so that one day we all could be able to see what you want to see

    Quote Originally Posted by nmshaikh View Post
    A list of all known air cooled VW's is possible but hard to say if it would ever be accurate with VW's changing hands frequently as well as being chopped up for scrap. one can try..
    Fill in the form above for all your VWs separately and we'll start building one today. Moreover, if you have any feedback about the form, please mention so that it could be made more comprehensive. Though have already tried to make it quite comprehensive but then there is always room for improvement.

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    Default Registry Results

    Here is a few shots from the results of the entry in the VW Registry Form above. Read the details and you would know its pretty comprehensive and handy only if populated.
    Volkswagen Club of Pakistan VWCOP -393293 Volkswagen Club of Pakistan VWCOP -393295 Volkswagen Club of Pakistan VWCOP -393296 Volkswagen Club of Pakistan VWCOP -393297 Volkswagen Club of Pakistan VWCOP -393298

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    Quote Originally Posted by reezvaan View Post
    Here is a few shots from the results of the entry in the VW Registry Form above. Read the details and you would know its pretty comprehensive and handy only if populated.
    Volkswagen Club of Pakistan (VWCOP) - 393293 Volkswagen Club of Pakistan (VWCOP) - 393295 Volkswagen Club of Pakistan (VWCOP) - 393296 Volkswagen Club of Pakistan (VWCOP) - 393297 Volkswagen Club of Pakistan (VWCOP) - 393298
    5 pages long! you're kidding? right? Do you think anyone would bother filling that out? I know i won't. Just get the contact details and the basics of the car...Beetle...model 1967 or whatever, colour, any special features (like alloy wheels, original sun roof or whatever. Khalaas
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    Quote Originally Posted by nmshaikh View Post
    5 pages long! you're kidding? right? Do you think anyone would bother filling that out? I know i won't. Just get the contact details and the basics of the car...Beetle...model 1967 or whatever, colour, any special features (like alloy wheels, original sun roof or whatever. Khalaas
    Too quick to respond eehhh...if you would have clicked the link to form, you would know its on CLICKS as everything is already mentioned in "MULTIPLE CHOICES" I dont think the length matters when you are just clicking Beside the above shots are Moderator Summary Shots showing graphs and all. It has to be long to show the graphs, isn't it?

    I can not imagine a Registry that would just list the years of cars and thts all. You are ruling out the possible uses of this data that VWCOP could gather.

    I suggest; Click link above and count the CLICKS for the ease of entry into the registry!

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    The registry asks 28 total questions, 08 are optional, 12 are MCQs. what more ease of entry is required I can not imagine?

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