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    Caught this TV commercial which shows the chronology of Yamaha models, and in the end it shows a bike which is covered, and the commercial ends, I did not listen what was being said. Now the search is disabled here and could not find anything on dyl.com.pk but if anyone has some information, please share with us here
    Waiting for the day people start obeying laws of the road while on the road... sigh!

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    jamaal
    sorry can u explian this?

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    taking in accoutn of the business revenue and the economical cultural experience jamal bhai, is that every company whatsoever in pakistan, or whereever in the world copies one another. the copy the product, but they do very much change its specifictions, for ex: mercedies, and bmw( 2 major sellers in teh world) are competitive to each other. if you ever come to the conclusion, bmw had started copying mercedies in the late 1960's.

    and for you specifically change:

    i understand that your not either of its supporters, and you even need to understand that every website/company would want to make it look as if they are the best. its business managment my friend, and as far as this topic, yamaha motor co. jp have been always a better manafactuerer, entepauner, and a better business place then Honda, as far as my opinion!

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    @ Change
    Dear dear dear!! Well! bro..Amm???So whats ur point??U say Honda is better world over when We look it "Realistically"
    Hahahaha..!!Now what does that realistically means??Lolz!! Dear we are also talking realisticallY!!
    Honda ka jo name ha its only in small countries and specially pakistan is one of them!! Even in india Honda is quiet poor!! there are many Booring and paindu models there!(U can check hondas indian site)
    whereas yamaha is doing a gr8 job there!
    I dont claim yamaha is doing good in pakistan...but its still bettr than Honda due 2 lesser prices and more performance + Durability!!

    Ok...Now u may ask why Yamaha junoon and YD 100 didnt got much sales??Well....answer is "Bhair chal" !!! Its very popular in pakistan...!! :p People are not in habit of using their minds!
    Let me xplain!! yamaha is older than honda in pakistan...but when honda wz introduced honda trained local people as machenics...!! This created many mechanics of Honda...these all supported honda because Hondais one of the most simplest engines...made of simplest technologies!! easy 2 understand and repair 4 mechanics!
    My point is...mechanics has got a big big role in creating that HIPE 4 Honda in Pakistan!
    Whereas in Fact!! After 80s...(When Honda was launched) It has not brought in any new technology 2 pakistan...
    yamaha Has brought in new Tecs...In Yd 100 and Junoon.
    but propoganda by our local mechanics made it a flop...
    U can still go and ask any of ur local mechanics!! They wud say: Bhai motorcyclein to do he hain 70 ya 125! Bus!
    Lolz...they say all other are bad whereas...Iv never seen any Yd100 in bad condition uptill now(though it wz lauchd qute a time ago!)
    honda didnt brought in any inovation...!! U see suzuki...??Its Far far more economical than ur favorite honda!~ (Cd 70=70km/Ltr, Sprinter eco=65 Km/Ltr!....70 cc VS 110cc!! Same in 125 category!)
    So....I think apki sari thinking Pakistani senario ke basis pe develope hue ha...
    And that totally wrong!
    If Uv got doubt abt Yamahas International ranking....Dnt trust us...!! research!! All experts world wide wud grade yamaha better!! And theres no doubt!!
    If u want 2 change the worlds thinking....Its ur courage then !!!
    No ofenses!! sorry if u mind anythng!

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    * Ab mechanics logon ko dusari bikes recomend kr ke apni rozi pe laat to nae na maren ***!?!?!?!?
    Even good mechanic cant do satisfactory repairs of new Tec bikes!!
    Suzuki ka to sawal he paida nae hota!
    yamaha ke bhi nist mar dete hain agr unse khalwa lo...
    Only Honda he unko repair krni ati ha!
    Bcoz 80% of our mechanics is a produce of "Ustad Shagird" Culture of pakistan....Only a few do proper courses by company!

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    @automotivesports lover
    ok fine thats ur analysis

    First of all i am not fan of Honda i am fan of Yamaha i know Yamaha have better technology but......

    1- Have u seen all models of Hero Honda in india they have worked according to the indian market (customer) and Hero Honda No. 1 seller they have launched in all catagories even PGM-FI,
    Bajaj is second largest in India
    and after that TVS and others right....

    2- After that come to Thiland there also Honda is leading

    3- If u want to visit China u will find most of the Honda copied technology (Motorcycles)

    4- Even in Japan Honda is market leader u can check.

    5- If u check Europe u can find Honda is leader and Piaggio, Apprilia is also high than Yamaha

    6- If u say in pakistan Honda has created any propeganda against Yamaha then it means Honda has more strong network than Yamaha while Yamaha also have very good nationwide network equal to Honda in quantity.

    Conclusion:?

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    change

    man you dont look at one specific country or a city and judge whatsoever.

    you look at the global prodution and marketing and then you tell us which is better bro.

    if you have read the financial times, it is said that honda would soon be shutting of their plants, due to the economical crises.

    please update your info!! no offense!

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    if new technology and local mechanics became hindrance in the popularity of new yamaha bikes,

    then my questions are:

    1) why the sales of suzuki sprinter series and gs-150 series are increasing day by day? since both have different technology than that of honda, and local mechanics donot operate on these bikes.

    2) if honda is the leader, then why their cd-100 didnt get the same response as that of their cg-125 and cd-70 series.. it means still the better functionality + economical on fuel bikes get popular with the public.... if honda is the leader then all of its model including the latest deluxe 125 series should have been a hit....
    No one is the market leader, public judge each new model of any brand individually...

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    @syedmohsin

    you wrote that :

    1) why the sales of suzuki sprinter series and gs-150 series are increasing day by day? since both have different technology than that of honda, and local mechanics donot operate on these bikes.

    my questions are:
    what is the sales volume of suzuki biks?
    i inform u that in december Suzuki has produced only 550 units

    if Suzuki is doing well then why Pak Suzuki take over this company?

    If sales is incresing then why they have demoted all staff one step down (CEO to bottm)?

    @all
    again i repeat that i am not fan of HONDA i am just speeaking truth

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    One thing is for sure, dhoom would be the strongest of all 70cc bikes as the company is claiming it and publicizing it on a large scale and everybody can judge from their past products qualities.

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    @bikejunky
    it seems like that

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    Hi bros! Good to share knowledge and improve mines too!
    Well...I think ur question2 is answerd in its ownself!!
    i told yah!! Its the mechanics which are making market low for CD 100(like Yamaha YD 100,Junoon,CG 125 Delux..Same is with CD 100)....Bcoz...Again new engine...they dont know its techneques!! Its technology is quite same as cd70...But design has changed!! So they dont want 2 mess up their hands...Ok!
    Trial and error on someone others bike isnt Gud...(Though they all do it!!)

    And Q1 is well answered by Change...!

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    dear all...
    i dont like to brag... since i cant throw any facts or figures without telling any relevent source...

    but what i have seen, and asked people... the prices that are continuous up...
    suzuki sprinter which came at 49,800 is now at 60,900... and it's sales has been increasing... and also of Gs-150 which is now selling at 79,900 (karachi price).

    with what i have seen, i can safely claim that ive seen more suzuki sprinters and Gs-150'z on the karachi roads than Yamaha Junoon or CD-100...

    my actual point was, if mechanics are the one to decide the fate of a new bike, then how come suzuki models are a hit, since they have a new technology as well....

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    @automotive sports lover
    Following is the statement from ur last post,

    These are the mechanics who are making market low for CD 100(like Yamaha YD 100,Junoon,CG 125 Delux..Same is with CD 100)....Bcoz...Again new engine...they dont know its techneques!! Its technology is quite same as cd70...But design has changed!! So they dont want 2 mess up their hands...Ok!

    Its self explainatory because u said CD100 engine technology is same as 70 cc yes it is right. You also said its design is different its wrong i men only cylinder, piston and head dimensions (sizes) are different and its nothing different with CD70 so whats difficulties are for mechanics to repair this engine? and why mechanics negatively propogate agaisnt this pls let me know for my knowledge?

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    @automotive sports lover
    Following is the statement from ur last post,

    These are the mechanics who are making market low for CD 100(like Yamaha YD 100,Junoon,CG 125 Delux..Same is with CD 100)....Bcoz...Again new engine...they dont know its techneques!! Its technology is quite same as cd70...But design has changed!! So they dont want 2 mess up their hands...Ok!

    Its self explainatory because u said CD100 engine technology is same as 70 cc yes it is right. You also said its design is different its wrong i men only cylinder, piston and head dimensions (sizes) are different and its nothing different with CD70 so whats difficulties are for mechanics to repair this engine? and why mechanics negatively propogate agaisnt this pls let me know for my knowledge?

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    @automotive sports lover
    Following is the statement from ur last post,

    These are the mechanics who are making market low for CD 100(like Yamaha YD 100,Junoon,CG 125 Delux..Same is with CD 100)....Bcoz...Again new engine...they dont know its techneques!! Its technology is quite same as cd70...But design has changed!! So they dont want 2 mess up their hands...Ok!

    Its self explainatory because u said CD100 engine technology is same as 70 cc yes it is right. You also said its design is different its wrong i men only cylinder, piston and head dimensions (sizes) are different and its nothing different with CD70 so whats difficulties are for mechanics to repair this engine? and why mechanics negatively propogate agaisnt this pls let me know for my knowledge?

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    @change: why have u posted same text three times???

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    @automotive sports lover
    Following is the statement from ur last post,

    These are the mechanics who are making market low for CD 100(like Yamaha YD 100,Junoon,CG 125 Delux..Same is with CD 100)....Bcoz...Again new engine...they dont know its techneques!! Its technology is quite same as cd70...But design has changed!! So they dont want 2 mess up their hands...Ok!

    Its self explainatory because u said CD100 engine technology is same as 70 cc yes it is right. You also said its design is different its wrong i men only cylinder, piston and head dimensions (sizes) are different and its nothing different with CD70 so whats difficulties are for mechanics to repair this engine? and why mechanics negatively propogate agaisnt this pls let me know for my knowledge?

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    well, laraai is not with yamaha
    ITS DYL
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    @malikg115: u r right but people don't understand i emphasis on this all time

    @ravishing: I have posted three time by network defect i personnaly don't want this

    @automotive sportslover: pls reply my question

    @all
    who did not answer my last posts are requested to pls reply i want to learn more from u Sir's

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    basically there are 2 companies. DYL which are producing the dhoom, and dawood yamaha ltd. which are producing yamahas.

    these both companies are run by the Dawood group of comapnies!!!!!!

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