and people who cannot afford a decent sport car, buy civic and then lower it and add side skirts and body kits and spoilers and what not and forget that underneath it all, it is still the same 1.8 SOHC engine. pw is filled with threads where civics are made to look like type r. and catherine zeta jones really? she hasnt been in a decent movie for years and is now way pasr her prime, no wonder you are taking her name here. as she might be too old to actually comprehend that honda atlas fan boys can actually spend thousand to make their car look like a race car and infact do nothing to upgrade the engine (fyi adding a NOS sticker doesn't count as improving performance )