and how much more does the civic UG package costs compared to oriel pros?
As far as dual vvti 1.6 3zzfe is concerned, we won't be getting it. My source is not a reliable one in this case, but he has been correct in some cases in the past and I am also inclined to believe his point
EDIT: I am not criticizing or appreciating anyone. I am telling you the facts and rumors. What you make of them is upto you