@ Qwerty, don't you worry, I hadn't forgotten that trick, if you read at the top, I did get stuck, but situation became so dicey that almost all were running around, trying to recover me out of a possble diasatrous scenario. Plus it was nearly mid night at the time, so not enough light for any decent shots. I think there may be a vdo or two of how and what happened, but that will probably come later. But ALL is well that ends WELLLL !!!!