Bikes & engine oils

[malikg115]

Over time oils get useless and become thin and dirty which influences the performance of the engine. So checking and replacing your oil regularly is a must for any rider. Oil cleans, cools and lubricates the engine. Here are some tips for bikers...............

Make sure you get the right oil for your motorcycle. Motor oils come in grades / weights. Each grade is rated for ignition compression (for diesel engines), spark ignition (for gasoline engines) or for both types of engines. Additionally oils can be synthetic or natural, include detergents be a multigrade (20W-50) or single grade (50) and made for motorcycles or cars.

Understanding biker oils is essential to getting the best mc oil. The thickness of the fluid is measure in SAE rating. The lower the number the lighter it is (the easier it flows). When oil gets hot it also flows easier so to compensate for a too light hot oil viscosity mix are available called 20W-50. Which means a cold oil flows like a 20 grade but at high temperature it flows like a thicker 50 grade.

What oil do you need to get? I would suggest a synthetic oil (for modern bikes not for older models) since synthetic holds its properties much better than a natural oil. A specific oil isn’t always the best motorcycle oil and worth the extra investment (only if you hardly ever renew the oil or ride under extreme situations). And a wide multi grade ranges is smarter for the engine.

Four stroke engines store the oil in a reservoir but two stroke engines works in a different way. The oil gets pumped around the moving parts and gets burnt during the combustion process. That’s why you don’t need to drain two stroke engines for maintenance. Just keep them topped up with quality two stroke (!) oil.

Maintenance on four strokes is simple. Drain the oil while it is still hot (watch out), remove the filter and replace with a new one (use a recommended filter). Watch very carefully that filter is sealed well. Check your owner manual for more tips.

SOURCE : - www.best-motorcycle-gear.com
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[daudbros]

good information keep us upate.

Thanx

[CyberLord]

can u suggest ne oil for 4stroke bike.. Company wise..
wat about new shell oil.

[change]

@malikg115
good information

@all
specific info about which M.Cycle which oil is required will help more effectively if any one can post this

[Automotorsport_Lover]

@ Malik G

Bro plz explain...How engine oil is pumped in yamaha royale? It has also got a reservoire then why its needed 2 pump the oil!?

Or ur mentioning abt trail bikes etc/Advanced bike?

[RX115]

@malikg115 kya bat hai zabardast keep it up and also tell me which is best oil for rx . i use shell 2t in side and E4 for gear box oil suggest me the best thanks

[change]

@RX115
if Genuine Shell available then keep it up its best option for two stroke engine

[RX115]

thanks @change. i dono is it genuine or not but i buy it from shell gas stations.do u know dear where can i get the genuine?

[malikg115]

wel,
a old mechanic said that 4, 2 strok sheel is good
but for 4 strok Caltex, i tried this for my GTO125 n found som good movement its about 2003

[Vaqas1]

Our desi mechanic dont know anything about oil if its garha its good. Aur agar ustaad ney kaha hai acha hai tu acha hai.

People still using catlex red oil in there bike i mean that is API SF oil itna purana ka hum paida nahi hova honga tub ka standard hai oil ka.

for 4 Stroke bike try to find Total Quartz 5000 in 1 Liter pack or buy 3 liter and use it.

Or if ur bike decreases oil or ur into racing than GTX is the oil for you any car or bike that is decreasing oil use GTX and the problem will be solved if the engine is not in too bad condition.

[asad01]

@Vaqas1
what is the API rating and SAE rating for Total Quartz 5000?

Do not use use any oil, in your motorbike, other than API SF or API SG. These are the only two current types for motorcycle engines (except Ducatis with dry clutch). The API rating is a standard not technology, API SF and API SG are for automotive engines with wet clutch, like motorcycles. The manufacturers come up with new technologies all the time that fulfills the requirement of these standards. The newer standards (API SL etc.) are for cars with American emission standards having catalytic converters.

[Vaqas1]

Yaar if ur talkin about wet clutch oil tu phir only oil i know that says its designed for wet clutch is motor bike oil by Shell.

When i use to have bike cd 70 2008 i tested all oils they all work fine on wet clutch.

Quartz 5000 i liked that oil bcoz i noticed the winter starting improved plus i felt the pickup and economy also improved.

Quartz 5000 is API- SJ. 20-50W.

[malikg115]

good discussion going on

[asad01]

There is a big difference between a motorcycle oil and a car oil.

The lubricant for cars, is just that, a lubricant. It's only purpose is to provide lubrication to the parts so they face minimum friction, they have friction modifiers added to reduce friction. Cars have dry clutch, so no oil there. Cars have separate transmission, with it's own oil. Cars are water cooled, radiator, coolant and stuff.

Motor bike oil has to do all of the above jobs. Lubricate the parts, but the clutch is wet with the same oil, so it can not be of minimum friction, because that will make the clutch slip (not immediately but it will happen). The transmission uses the same oil, where it is faced with more forces acting to break it down, compared to a car. And it is used as a coolant in the engine as well.

When one changes to a car lubricant it feels like the engine is running smooth, which it is because of friction modifiers, but these same friction modifiers will stick to the clutch plates and make it slip.

Stick with API SG as recommended by the motorbike manufacturer. Go with the brand/manufacturer of your choice, but stick with API SG for your motorbike.

If you want more info just google for "oil difference motorbike car"

[Vaqas1]

Asad show me where it says API SG is ok for wet clutch? yaar the thing is the bloody motor bike builders are building the same model of bike the same technology for almost 15 years in pakistan and at that time API SG was latest oil available.

DId u ever notice any difference in the manual of honda bikes from last 7 years?

Aur tell me will u save 800 Rs clutch or a 10000 Rs engine by using an old technology of oil?

The kinda pounding bike engine goes throw its more than any modern day engine and plus its air cooled means more touch for bike engine thats why a bike engine fails in 40000 KM and a car engine runs up to 2 lacs kM.

Now will u use modern engine oil or an old technology oil upto you. But leme tell u if u put an oil that is not supported in wet clutch u will notice it right away on the other hand the latest oils in pakistan ( other than synthetic) they all work fine on bike's engine.

[zoeed]

Hi all! i am relatively new to this forum...
Been on the bike since as long as i can remember....
never had a thing for the cars(feel castophobic sitting inside a cabin)..
Anyway...my experience is a bit different than what i have read in the posts..

i have a 2006 CG125 with 24000kms on it(i believe that is enough of a meter reading to give a genuine advice)

I understand an engine oil made specifically for the bikes, but let me assure you that it would matter to a bigger Displacement bike... not to 125's or 70's....
You see these oils have a particular heat limit after which the enzymes either get burned or become useless.
Now I've always kept a good engine oil...
Kept on CALTEX for a while..
then switched to LIQUI MOLY (had to buy 4 litre for my F650GS bike,model year 2000)
now is have a MOBIL 15W-40 in it(again had to buy for the bigger bike and had more than a liter leftover)
I changed the caltex every 1500 to 2000 KM....
Changed the LIQUI after 4000 KM
will change the MOBIL for 5000 KM

So as long as you're using a good oil then i think the engine should run smooth..

BTW I'm 105Kgs and my bike takes me to 105KM/HR which by all standards is a good effort on a stock bike and specially after that many miles...

NOTE: RECENTLY WENT TO MC LOED ROAD AND THE DEALER QUOTED 55000 FOR THE BIKE AFTER HEARING THE SOUND.. THE OILS MUST HAVE DONE THEIR JOB TO KEEP THE LION IN SHAPE

[bike_junky]

Plz can any body tell is "Chain Lube wax" available in pakistan.
I mean any kind of Chain spray or like thing that can be used for chains and specially made for this purpose.

[zoeed]

@ bike_junky

Contact Mr. Bashir in Rawalpindi.. He's a certified Honda mechanic and has 11 years of experience working in Honda JAPAN... he will be able to help you out in this regard:

MALIK MOHAMMED BASHIR
TEL @ 051-5507642
MOBILE @ 03335139455

[bike_junky]

@zoeed

Thanks friend. I will soon contact him.

[bike_junky]

Plz make performance comparison between Atlas Honda Genuine oil SAE 20w-40 API SF and Caltex Havoline SAE 20W-50 API SG leaving aside their thickness (weight difference).

I twice used Caltex Havoline in my Piaggio-125, but some mechanics say that Atlas Honda is better. any views from expert.