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    hello,,i am back in pindi with my second trip of M2 and M3 on my new xli,,,,,i posted the experience of my first trip to lahore ,,,,,,now here is a biggest highlight of my second trip,,,,,,,my new xli,,sways and lurches like a suzuki Fx while crossing a truck or a bus at speed of 120 and higher,,,,,and guess what happened on River Swan bridge close to islamabd on M2,,,,,,as soon as i entered the bridge at speed of 125 km/hr,,,,the car suddenly went out of control and it swayed to the left in a dangerous way,,,this was without applying any brake,,,i slowed down the car by applying brakes and afterwords never crossed 110km,till reaching islamabad,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the car is with stock tyres,,,someone tell why it happened???????
    nothingh last forever,,even cold november rain.

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    @levin:

    I started driving back in class 7 and now im in class 12..

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    @FLi-GTi:

    I actually doubt the driving skills or the mental presence of the 90% of the people on road carrying lousy small booklet of paper in their pockets.
    On road its every man is for himself regardless of the driving regulations or conditions. Moreover, im NOT imposing my "practial observations" on ANYONE here.
    With that being the case i would like to highlight that, my car has been hit 3 times standing static in a parking lot by guys with lisence and trying to do somewhat like a 3 point turn. Oh & btw, when did you started driving ?

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    i agree with tech_wiz...
    sent from my HD2 without using the handset itself!!

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    nice

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    do some sadka
    Moderators' attitude / role should be "live and let live", or, "post and let post", rather than "Close, Move and Delete the post"

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    @abid
    i was waiting for ur reply..i knew u would say something of this sort..
    sent from my HD2 without using the handset itself!!

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    @tech_wiz

    Our roads are not that bad as far as grip is concerned. GT road for instance is very Grippy. The roads of islamabad specially the ones made in the last 1-2 years are grippy.
    The motorway is not that bad either.
    However, the main roads of rawalpindi are very slippery.


    I've had experience with 2 directional tires, and have had no problems whatsoever. The tires were dunlop (i think they are called the sp9000) and goodyear eagle f1 gs-d2(they were very hard and not very grippy in the dry, but that was not due to them being directional, but mostly due to them being hard).


    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+GS-D3

    Go to this link. I ordered these tires and will be getting them in a week or so hopefully. They are different from the gs-d2's, and are currently ranked #2 in their category( which is max performance summer tires). Check out the tire performance ratings, and then give me a logical explanation as to why these tires will work in the us and other non-directional tires will work here in pakistan?
    Btw the only difference I know of between a directional and a normal tire is that the directional tire is better on the wet as it reduces aquaplaning by cutting through water.

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    and i just remembered that the dunlop fm 901 tires I had on a corolla were also directional, and were one of the best tires i've ever used in terms of grip/stability. The only problem with them was that they were very noisy.
    I could hear them over the 2.0d engine

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    @ tech wiz
    no comments for u, every one has diff preferances when it comes to driving, my preferrances and knowledge abt tires is i guess way out of sync with u i guess

    @ jin
    i too have fm901 in my car and eagle f1 (d2 i guess) and yes i beleve fm901 performs as good as the tire costing more than twice its price under normal circumstances. the eagle f1 had great grip initially, but they lost it all at abt 20K, now they only have good cornering or rather excellent cornering but very bad straight line braking(hard compund, ment to be drivin at speed over 240km/h???) , the link u posted suggets D3s as excellent in noise department, not sure abt that but D2 are really noisy, alot noiser than fm901,
    if given a chance, i think i will buy fm901 over F1-d2 or yokohama es100 or something similar. the reviews at that site thou suggests F1-d3 being sperioir. will love to have ur inout on that when u get them
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    When i used directional tyres i had many problems. Straight line braking wasn't optimal. Cornering wasn't much good either. However, they didn't used heat up much after a day's tiring drive.
    From what I know, the more linings in the tread of the tyres the better the grip & braking. Almost all Directional tyres don't have lining in the tread running on the wheel surface but they have this V thingy tread...

    @jinn,
    bro, i'll take some pics of the roads from a view that'll make my point clear. No offence...i shall post them soon despite the heavy odds against the traffic of Lahore...

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    In most tires such as the offerings from Dunlop. Yokohama Bridgestone Pirelli etc, the direction only matters if its wet so as longs as its not raining, the actual construction of the tire does not differ forwards to backwards. Your confusing "V" grooved wet weather tyres with directional tires. You're absolutly correct about the V grooved pattern being nect to useless in the dry and on our roads even in the wet.
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    @RedBull_ar
    You're probably right about the gs-d2's. I have them on a civic, and they've done 40-45k, and the car gets extremely noisy (seems like wind + road noise) once you gain a bit of speed. However, I noticed the problem around the time I got the suspension of the car changed, so I always assumed it was some missing padding or something related to the suspension. However, it could be both the suspension + the tires. Dont drive that car a lot so havent got it checked.
    The gs-d3's are ranked very high, and hopefully will turn out as good.



    @tech_wiz

    You said and I quote "From what I know, the more linings in the tread of the tyres the better the grip & braking".
    You may be right, but whats the reason for this?

    And yeah I agree most of our roads are crap(probably lahore included), but I was just pointing out the ones that are not bad


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    Yes they are different, but I think all V-Shaped tires are directional. Anyways, how can V grooved tires be useless in the dry and that too only on our roads. They have excellent dry traction(please refer to link posted earlier). I fail to understand this point so could you please elaborate.

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    Excessive drainage channels=less contact patch area=Less dry grip. Even in the wet they reduce the chance of Aquaplaning, not necessarily "increase" grip. The link you gave is an excerpt from the summary by the manufacturer. What do you expect them to say? It Sucks ***?
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    Its Sucks ***?...where is abid siddiqui? id like to have his comments on this!!!
    sent from my HD2 without using the handset itself!!

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    @tech_wiz


    u must be a great driver and u seem like a professional in tires and stuff.

    keep it up

    i wont argue with u nor i have any personal intentions to propose a remedy for the swaying of xli

    thoku ja ker use kahin
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    @FLi_GTi

    I wasnt talking about the summary of the manufacturer. If you would have scrolled down a bit, you would have seen the survey results which places it at #2 in its category with dry traction rated at 9.2/10 which is very high if you compare it with other tires on the site. Btw the #1 tire is also a directional tire.

    You still havent explained how they are useless for our roads but will work elsewhere?

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    I did'nt say hey were bad for OUR roads. Read carefully. I said they were mediocre overall! According to a survey conducted by an independant tuning house, the time difference between using the v-grooved tire you mentioned in the wet and dry was not even half a second. What I said was that the mediocre perfromance of V-grooved wet weather radials is compunded by the bad road conditions in Pakistan.
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    Today i was discussing my civic with general tires in toyota township as car was having an oil change on lift.. guy said what ever car,, from 1600cc to 5 litre,, general tires cannot handle high speed turn and brake combo even in porsche! let alone a xli corolla ,,, Toyota has to put general tire in xli,, because its made in Pakistan.
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