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    to all corolla owners out there

    as u all know, most se saloons and altis owners have changed the original 14" tyres to 15" in order to give the car a better look.

    well i have 2 SE saloons in my office and have extensively driven both. one has 15" tyres while the other has original 14" tyres. i have noticed 2 marked differences between the 2. would like share it with u all.

    1. as u know corolla has a badr grip as it is, however the car with 15" tyres has a much more shaky grip compared to the car with 15" tyres. especially on highways the car 15" tyres does not feel sure footed and feels swayed by cross winds. the car with 14" tyres still has somewhat an acceptable grip.

    2. the acceleration of the car with 15" tyres is definitely slower than the one with 14" tyres.

    i cross-checked my findings with a technical person at toyota. he confirmed that this is the reason that toyota is not offering 15" tyres in corolla. he explained that bcz of the high-roof design, the car's centre of gravity gets affected if its fitted with 15" tyres.


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    @FLi_GTI
    OK I understand that increasing the rim size has an effect on the efficiency of the car and it may be a rocket science which an average person cannot understand. But dear sir are you saying that Toyota Pakistan has done more R&D than Toyota Thiland, Singapore, north America etc that they have started placing the rims of 14".
    You see there is one thing called trade-off. You can put 12" rims also in corolla for fuel efficiency and gear ratios but you have to make a trade-off at a peak value. Where you balance things which are best for your environment Corolla Pakistan has made up its decision (trade-off) to save money and not looking at the technical sides of the things (u have answered my question if you believe that Toyota Pakistan has actually done road testing & R&D before putting in the 14" rims. and its a wise move to have 14" rims + higher suspension than 15" rims and average suspension. Assuming both give same ground clearance)
    Love it or leave it is actually a good philosophy but in many cases a utopian one.
    I have read at least 15 + reviews and am pretty satisfied with the core technical things like the VVTI engine and ECT. These are the other minor things that Toyota Indus has done to save money. I have a long debate with my father on this as he is of the opinion that it’s better to get a Malaysian lancer or Japanese Sunny as according to him even placing a completely assembled engine properly on the chassis with correct angle is something which will be too technical for the Pakistani technicians.
    Importing is not a viable option for an average person as it involves a lot of hassle. Also going for an imported vehicle has its own problems. You may have contacts all over the world but it’s not possible for everyone. I remember this old poor fellow who has bought a JDM corolla 2004 from Karachi and only after two weeks searching the shops in Rawalpindi Babu mohalla and Sadar for one of his fog light as it was loose and he has dropped it some where and now could not find one for his car as the local corolla fog lights are little bigger in size. Just imagine the frustration of that fellow.
    Raising hell in front of Indus office is a good idea but first of all let us express our anger in front of car lovers and enthusiasts community (And the best place to find them is @ Pakwheels.com)
    This reminds me of another incidence. I know one person some naval doctor dermatologist by profession from Isloo whose car the Toyota Islamabad persons have not delivered on time. Its some 10 days late and he was threatening Toyota Indus that he will sue them and saying that he has contact with Uncle Shukat Aziz and believe me with in half an hour. All four fellows (Its July 2005) sitting in the sales office of Toyota Islamabad are with him saying that we are internees here in Islamabad .All the Toyota sales staff has left a month ago due to their policies and we don’t know what to do and we are fed up with this internship this is the most disgusting internship one can have.
    Stop buying like hot cakes. Well personally I have waited for more than 2 years before buying this car but you see for how long you can wait. But you see as they say in Urdu Waiyae-Nakami Mataye Karwan janta rahaa. We should at least raise our voice to improve the local industry standard. About the difference yes every one is unique or the other way of saying it is that no one is ….
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    XAIN brother do come to islamabad meeting. I am anxious to meet u in person. FLi_GTi has already agreed. Do spare some time for us as well.
    Maybe we can have better discussion in person
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    Xain, let me clear up somethings for you and save you the trouble of writing such extensive posts. I have no idea what you mean in that first paragraph. The Corolla that gets the 15 and optional 16 inch rolling stock is the Corolla XRS/Runx/Allex and the TTE Toyota Compressor! Thats with the 1ZZ-GE and the six-throw from the Celica otherwise ALL COROLLAS be it the G9 JDM or the CE ALTIS get 14s shod with 185/65 rubber. Ground clearance is managed properly by adjusting "sprung weight" not changing wheel sizes.
    We'll have this discussion if and when we meet up. Its a pointless excersice as having an argument for the sake of an arggument never went any place.
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    guys!!

    Corolla in India is offered with the following rims and tyres:
    rims: 15"
    tyres: 185/60R15 or 195/60R15

    I think thats the right tyre for this car in view of the grip and brakes. i wonder why we get 14" rims with 185/65R14. Can anyone comment on that?

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    @Spectra
    I will be there.
    @FLI_GTI
    All my comparisons are based on 1ZZ-FE(VVT-I) engine and 15" tires.
    North America http://www.toyota.com/corolla/specs.html
    India
    http://www.toyotabharat.com/showroom/corolla/specs.html
    Phillipines.
    http://www.toyota.com.ph/showroom/corolla_asia/specs.html
    Fortunately for your rescue we have the singapores website where we have the 14" tires.
    http://www.toyotasingapore.com.sg/showroom/corolla_altis/specs.html
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