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    Default Suzuki Cultus Carbi Starting Problem

    Hi All, Need suggestion. what to do , where to go, how to fix.
    my Cultus has starting problem on PETROL in morning or if parked for more than 12 to 15 hours ( CNG is fine ).
    What happen is my battery has full power(its new battery) it tries its best but car just do normal ghe ghe ghe ghe ghe ghe, but dont start. After 15 to 20 minutes hard work, it will start but when i press accelerator it dont respond, engine vibrates full time like dug dug dug dug dug dug dug. and pressing accelerator dont help, after 10 to 15 minutes in same condition, it picks the accelerator and becomes normal.

    Any idea what has gone wrong?
    On Warm start its fine, on CNG its fine in both cold/warm start.


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    can be a weak fuel pump
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    Quote Originally Posted by UsmanAnsari View Post
    can be a weak fuel pump
    Already checked.

    Suzuki 3s mechanic said, its due to bad petrol, wait for 1 week get petrol and see, if it still have same problem then HEAD work need to be done cost around 15 K to 20K.
    Went local mechanic, he said to go to electrician to check fuel pump, Electrician check it to be fine, and sent me back to mechanic to check carboarator, so went to mechanic again, he said carborator is ok, put HIOCATNE petrol in it and check if it resolves, else come back.

    so i am ping pong right now

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    Is there any pinging sound on acceleration after warm up?
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    I had the unfortunate experience of something similar with my EFI Baleno. The car won't start at all even after 10-15 selfs. After applying the process of elimination on a few susceptible culprits I decided to check and see if petrol was getting to the FI rail, right after the intake manifold/throttle body. Turns out the fuel pump was acting up and would fail every now and then to send petrol from the tank to the fuel filter and into the injection rail.

    You should check if this is the case when the car is cold. Switch the car to petrol. Remove the outgoing tube/pipe from the fuel filter (the one that feeds the carburetor) and turn the car on with the key. When I say on, just turn the key to right before the self point, i.e. when all the lights, etc, light up in the speedometer display. Now, the pump should start pumping petrol from the tank, through the filter and out the disconnected pipe. Have a pepsi bottle handy to catch any petrol that comes out. This should give you a fair idea if the fuel pump is the culprit or not.

    About the electrician checking the fuel pump, did he do that with or without removing the fuel tank? I had to get the tank removed and the fuel pump replaced to get the problem resolved. If there is not enough fuel gushing out the fuel filter you might have either one or both of following problems:

    1) Defective pump. Works intermittently and dies every now and then.
    2) Fuel filter is choked.

    If the symptoms persist after resolved/checking the things above, your carburetor might need some fine-tuning. Getting work done on the head is totally unnecessary and is a huge rip-off. Run from the 3S mechanic as fast as you can. Hope I was helpful.

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    try this (ensure car is on petrol)

    1. Pull up the hand brake
    2. Please down on clutch
    3. Pump the accelarator a few time and start while pumping
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    @argtr65: I didnt observe that, will let you know in a day.though i fear to turn it on petrol to avoid wasting time
    @cardinal: Your idea sounds good, the electrician did the same way as you said, but at that time car was warm, and petrol was dropping on floor like water from TAP, i will try it on cold.
    @Retrograde: Thats the way i always start my car, but its not working out.

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    Beside efi,does every carby engine start getting petrol at ON position of starter switch?
    In efi emulator cuts the supply of petrole but which thing stops petrole in carby engines?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skill View Post
    Beside efi,does every carby engine start getting petrol at ON position of starter switch?
    not every carby car, only those equipped with an electronic fuel pump will start getting petrol as soon as the ignition is turned on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skill View Post
    In efi emulator cuts the supply of petrole but which thing stops petrole in carby engines?
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    @usman
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    ^ don't have it right now, will arrange for you
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    look like faulty fuel pump . . . but u says u checked it

    then i guess your coil not providing enough current

    then other thing you can do is change the spark plug or may be the wiring of plugs.

    from my pov this is not head related problem which your mechanic mention

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    i was having exctly the same problem with my civic 97...and the fault was in the wiring which is going towards fuel pump...check it....
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    Hi guys,looks like my problem resolved thanx for every one input, it was BAD petrol as per suggestion by 3s suzuki guy, and as per his advise I filled my tank with fuel again after the petrol crises went over. And from last two days car is starting on first ignition

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