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    <ABBR class=published title=" 2010-01-01">January 1, 2010 </ABBR>| Argentina and Chile

    For the CNG Skeptics > TLCs with CNG Race the 2010 Dakar - Dakar Gasco Carmone 2010 250x166

    Intent on proving natural gas is up to the demands of the one of the world’s toughest motorsport events, a newly formed Gasco-Terpel Gasel team have prepared two V6 Toyota FJ Landcruisers to compete in the 2010 Argentina-Chile Dakar Rally commencing on January 1. Both vehicles have undergone conversion to compressed natural gas, fitted with Pelmag conversion kits from Argentina and Italian AEB electronic control units to manage the gas fuel supply. The applied technology is the same used for standard vehicle conversions. The Gasco-Terpel Gasel team received approval to race the two Toyotas in a new experimental category, after passing rigorous inspection by rally technicians.

    Celebrating being approached by the team to drive one of the Landcruisers in his first Dakar, Luis Carmona said, “having the luck to be at Dakar for free, sponsored by mechanics and all logistical support, not many drivers can say that!” Carmona and co-driver Luis Miguel Carmona, his son, together with the other team led by Ignacio Casale, will be focusing more on getting to the end of the rally rather than racing hard.

    For the CNG Skeptics > TLCs with CNG Race the 2010 Dakar - Dakar Gasco Casale 2010 250x166

    In Casale’s words, “I will get to the finish in Buenos Aires, demonstrating that a natural gas vehicle is not only cleaner but reliable, secure and able to withstand the toughest race in the world.” Both Carmona and Casale are experienced rally drivers, with previous strong showings in Patagonia Atacama rallies. The event is due to conclude on January 17th.

    Toyota Landcruisers with CNG Conversions Race the 2010 Dakar | NGV Global


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee View Post
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    Italians were using CNG Diesel Technology in late 90s, 2 years back Ghazi tractors tested the same on the diesel engine. Are there any Diesel conversion kits available in Pakistan? I am reffering to CNG DeeMog here , Zero Emission mogging ke JayHo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basharatu View Post
    Italians were using CNG Diesel Technology in late 90s, 2 years back Ghazi tractors tested the same on the diesel engine. Are there any Diesel conversion kits available in Pakistan? I am reffering to CNG DeeMog here , Zero Emission mogging ke JayHo!
    Bash ki bhi jayho....

    we need this combo on 421... i mean if germans can do the alteration than why not us.... i have done same servo brakes as in the pictures.... air conditioning and turbo to go
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    @DeeDee its known as LPG fumigation, we have installed few in Pakistan on experimental basis and they work cool.
    To all the extreme drivers, please come offroad like ME to keep others safe on the roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee View Post
    Bash ki bhi jayho....

    we need this combo on 421... i mean if germans can do the alteration than why not us.... i have done same servo brakes as in the pictures.... air conditioning and turbo to go
    .....you got me thinking now.... I wonder if I can add a turbo to the F engine...safely. I understand that the petrol charade turbo and non-turbo carbs are very different...therefore i would have to modify the carb aswell ? or find a turbo friendly carb that is big enough to run the F and/or 2F engines.

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    @SalmanChaudhry: I think we have discussed the topic of putting turbos onto diesels sometime earlier, though no one here has come out with an actual project as yet. On the petrol F engines, you would never really need one (around here at least) if the engine is in half decent shape. Nevertheless, my view is that while slapping on a turbo on a non-turbo is quite doable and fruitful, it would invariably decrease engine life unless you reinforce the internals as well.

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    An engine low on compression as NA can last another life with just adding a turbo, thus not needing a rebuild and giving out more power.

    Fitting a turbo is easy, but getting the engine and turbo to work together is the hard part. At first the engine is sucking in air, add a turbo and your forcing air, a whole different story.

    The easiest solution is to just find a engine which is built for accommodating a turbo, and throw it in.
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