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Thread: Ford Raptor vs. Ram Runner - Factory Race Trucks for Rich Lazy Bums!

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    Default Ford Raptor vs. Ram Runner - Factory Race Trucks for Rich Lazy Bums!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJdILE5T_NE&feature

    To save you the trouble, the Raptor takes it quite nicely. Someone recently asked me what car should one get for rallying if budget is not a problemo. I think my first response was that the budget will always be an issue one way or the other, but the considered reply has to be a Ford Raptor.

    Ford Raptor vs. Ram Runner - Factory Race Trucks for Rich Lazy Bums! - images?qtbnANd9GcTwFrmnUtBwRcbkvmG39TEWj9 7WPBS2HjEHvjtT8JEiJcB6MFdMA

    Some recent models available for $35-40k in the US and being a truck I understand falls into a lower duty bracket. Spares should be available from Dubai and one should be fine as long as you don't roll it too often. One hell of a truck, although runs kamanis in the back (believe it or not!) and in a straight line sand/dirt drag, would not be much faster than the Concordias perhaps
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    Dodge looks a lot better....It looks a lot more racy...
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    Frankly speaking I have seen almost all Raptor videos and saw this one 2 some years back.....I have never been a fan of american trucks or cars but raptor is something else, With insane amounts of after market parts but buying one might not be that expensive but keeping onw would be.
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    Its too wide for our rally

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    Raptor one beast machine.
    <..If everything seems under control, U r not going fast enough..>

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    Its about 73 inches track width vs stock Tundra with is 68ish (add a few more with the longer front arms). Yes, quite a beast especially with the long wheelbase 125 and 144 inches. Nevertheless, there are techniques of getting big cars around smaller tracks without losing too much time and only a handful of sections in Cholistan where this would even be an issue. In Jhal, this would be ideal! I do take the point on maintenance costs, but then again no IFS rally car is ever cheap to maintain in the long run.
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    Tundra is big as well, even if most of the track is wide, just 20 or 30 off kilometers of narrow track can ruin the whole race, remember i lost Evo's tyre in rocky portion of Jhal, was doing 135-140 on a twisty rocky portion with probably only a few inches on both sides, one has to do it to compete the forerunners. A normal person would not dare to be higher than 40 km/h there but that what one is expected to do in rally.

    If someone is putting in 5M or more, plus the preparation cost of atleast 1.5M, he is aspiring to be pushing the existing table, which he would not be able to do on such wide vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saidhi View Post
    If someone is putting in 5M or more, plus the preparation cost of atleast 1.5M, he is aspiring to be pushing the existing table, which he would not be able to do on such wide vehicles.
    I see what you mean, but basically the Raptor remains a top notch prepped buying option for complete newbies who have the cash. It a car that owners have a lot of respect for and can be a whole lot of fun with just a roll cage added. There isn't any other comparable option available in the market off the shelf at this stage. Heck given the choice, I would drive a stock Raptor over a prepped Tacoma/Hilux anyday, be it Cholistan or Jhal!

    Its another discussion, if anyone thinks he can push the existing table by spending PKR / $$ only without doing the hard work. People generally don't think of buying a good squash racket and challenging Jansher Khan (as old as he may be) or buying an expensive golf kit and keeping up with Taimoor Hasan. But somehow a lot of people think that rallying is some kind of easy sport and all they need is a competitive car and they will be up there with the big boys. All such people have my best wishes and my sympathies along with my recommendation to buy a Raptor where the only excuse they will have is that it was too wide or too long!
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    For newbies all i can say is have a great rally vehicle and one can keep on improving his skills and eventually catch up with the big names. But if you dont have a capable vehicle then no matter if you are very talented it will not matter.

    In latest cholistan thread compare the drive of NN NPP and the triton hell of a difference. NN is a great driver and has shown consistence and if given a great vehicle he podium player for sure.

    Sahabs tundra turned out to be a good competitive vehicle with great potential but since it was his first rally he lacked experience.

    A and B category is too much competitive it will need a proper vehicle and good skill and a bit of luck.
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    Khair any way i my self have zero rally experience who am i to judge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    I see what you mean, but basically the Raptor remains a top notch prepped buying option for complete newbies who have the cash. It a car that owners have a lot of respect for and can be a whole lot of fun with just a roll cage added. There isn't any other comparable option available in the market off the shelf at this stage. Heck given the choice, I would drive a stock Raptor over a prepped Tacoma/Hilux anyday, be it Cholistan or Jhal!

    Its another discussion, if anyone thinks he can push the existing table by spending PKR / $$ only without doing the hard work. People generally don't think of buying a good squash racket and challenging Jansher Khan (as old as he may be) or buying an expensive golf kit and keeping up with Taimoor Hasan. But somehow a lot of people think that rallying is some kind of easy sport and all they need is a competitive car and they will be up there with the big boys. All such people have my best wishes and my sympathies along with my recommendation to buy a Raptor where the only excuse they will have is that it was too wide or too long!

    Its called "bullheaded syndrome"

    a sport remains a sport and you cannot beat experience with tech.

    Most of these newbie rally boys would be rallying with A/C running too - munching on chips and sipping coke.
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    All BS I tell you, all newbies should drive FJ40s! If they can keep them right side up by the end and match SK's time, maybe they deserve enough ball size to drive anything worth over PKR 1 million. Match that and we talk

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    All BS I tell you, all newbies should drive FJ40s! If they can keep them right side up by the end and match SK's time, maybe they deserve enough ball size to drive anything worth over PKR 1 million. Match that and we talk

    nice video! but there should be inserts of the original Uzi music

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    Quote Originally Posted by usama37 View Post
    nice video! but there should be inserts of the original Uzi music
    Yaar actually while the video technology has moved in bounds and leaps at rallies, the audio tech has been unable to keep up with the evolving UZi music Hence the V8 surs are not fully captured by any of the camera mics in play However a lot of people were seen cutting off their exhausts and all to emulate the UZi surs
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    There you go! Rally car for PKR 1 million! Beat that with whatever Raptor you can muster

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