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    F1 Fans!!!!
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    World Championships Standings after (Season Finale) Brazilian GP
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    World Championships Standings
    Drivers:                    Constructors:             
     1.  Vettel       392        1.  Red Bull-Renault          650
     2.  Button       270        2.  McLaren-Mercedes          497
     3.  Webber       258        3.  Ferrari                   375
     4.  Alonso       257        4.  Mercedes                  165
     5.  Hamilton     227        5.  Renault                    73
     6.  Massa        118        6.  Force India-Mercedes       69
     7.  Rosberg       89        7.  Sauber-Ferrari             44
     8.  Schumacher    76        8.  Toro Rosso-Ferrari         41
     9.  Sutil         42        9.  Williams-Cosworth           5
    10.  Petrov        37       
    11.  Heidfeld      34       
    12.  Kobayashi     30       
    13.  Di Resta      27       
    14.  Alguersuari   26       
    15.  Buemi         15       
    16.  Perez         14       
    17.  Barrichello    4       
    18.  Senna          2       
    19.  Maldonado      1        
    F1 2011 World Driver's Champion
    Sebastian Vettel
    -Formula 1 - Season 2011 -309864

    This Image was posted by @Born2Race with request that it should be posted in the first post after Japanese GP when Vettel secures the title, I promised that it will be at the end of Season on the first post. So here it is fulfilling my promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genius83 View Post
    Alonso's Helmet Tribute to Dan Wheldon and Marco Simoncelli
    -Formula 1 - Season 2011 - 318326

    @m_waqas
    Whom you want to see as Grid Girls, Kareena, Katrina, Priyanka or someone else. To be honest I am amazed, I have not seen any Bollywood personality in the paddock till now.

    I am 100% sure that its @alliereyaz who has jinx his favourite driver as the old saying goes the person who loves you most is also the one who is your biggest enemy too.
    to be honest non of them.....something walati
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    i missed the last 30mint of practice after acident..did schumi manage any more laps..though his timing was same

    its too dusty...n for sure with those high speed turns its gona be a tuff and fun race
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    @genius sharukh khan doesnt need to be there he is on the nose of SFI and i would love to see SFI break its nose and schin tendulker will weave the flag .. so the starts will be ther i think
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    ^ bipasha was there i saw her live ...
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    Ok, thanks for that info. Although I am wondering as StarSports only shows the 2nd Practice Session which starts at a time which is Jumma prayer time here in Karachi, you may have missed the prayers, if that is true then you are a naughty boy.

    And is it confirmed that Tendulkar will wave the flag, because I have not seen any confirmation news about it. Also Tendulkar in India is praised more like a god then like a star. I will be happy if we have less presence of Bollywood people because otherwise they will be more on the camera then the race itself.

    @rozzzzz
    Yes, Schumacher did more laps in the time that you missed as he was doing race simulations with heavy fuel load. Schumacher have said that he was struggling with the setup but I don't believe it because in the first session he has done a good lap which means they knows what can be regarded as a good setup.

    You have a double post with the same content.

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    I agree they most likely bring some Russian and Eastern Europe girls for doing the grid girls job but I would like to see some Indian girls to perform that duty.
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    @genius you know me i i dont like missing any prayers so i did offered jumma , 1 45 was the time for jumma and i came back at around 2 10 and watched .and yes it is confirmed i think steve slater can not afford to do a big blunder like this so it is confirmed from what i heard at star sports and steve slater was unable to pronounce the buddh international correctly many guys tweeted to him about this and then he got it right i didnt heard him pronouncing the wrong one but he did said that i got it right this time
    and one more issue i would like you to search a bit is the front wings on the cars both ferrari's were running different wings early in the session massa was faster with the 2 flap wing and it was shaking like hell i dont know which straight was it but the wing was touching the ground from the one side and was creating some sparks i think you get it what i m trying to say .. the wing was okay on the other side but one side was touching the ground but then after i didnt see that again
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    tch tch.. missing namaz for Bipasha is too bad ..

    yeah steve, me too not want to see European birds on the grid .. we see them all year..

    and just a clarification, Italians are not my type (those kind of birds are liked by UK)

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    Red face

    damn.. thats too much .. now i clearly understands why Eddie wanted ForceIndia's nose broken

    -Formula 1 - Season 2011 -318540
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    Talking Formula 1 Dog Race

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    yup thats what i was talking about
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    Indian GP - Practice 3 - Lotus Renault GP Report

    -Formula 1 - Season 2011 -318569

    Bruno Senna, R31-04
    P12, 1:27.235, 20 laps

    Vitaly Petrov, R31-06
    P7, 1:27.280, 19 laps

    Dust continues to reign supreme at the Buddh International Circuit in India as Bruno and Vitaly completed an encouraging FP3 session ahead of this afternoon’s qualifying session.

    Both drivers used hard tyres first before making early switches to the soft Pirellis. Both Bruno and Vitaly were strongly in the top ten for much of the session, but neither ran new tyres late on, meaning they dropped down the order by the chequered flag.

    Bruno was the quicker of the LRGP duo, with a 1min 27.235secs lap compared to Vitaly’s 1min 27.280secs.

    Sebastian Vettel was fastest this morning, with a 1min 24.824secs lap, with Jenson Button second quickest.


    GP2 Series champion Grosjean confirmed for two Friday drives

    -Formula 1 - Season 2011 -318570

    Lotus Renault GP is pleased to announce that Romain Grosjean will drive the R31 during the first practice sessions at the final two races of the season in Abu Dhabi (Friday 11<SUP class=typo_exposants>th</SUP> November) and Brazil (Friday 25<SUP class=typo_exposants>th</SUP> November).

    Having rejoined the team this year as a third driver, Romain will now have two opportunities to get behind the wheel at a race weekend with LRGP when he drives Bruno Senna’s car for the first 90-minute session at next month’s Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, followed by Vitaly Petrov’s R31 during the first practice session at the season-ending weekend in Brazil.



    INDIAN GP - QUALIFYING - LOTUS RENAULT GP REPORT

    -Formula 1 - Season 2011 -318571

    P15, 1:26.651 16 laps

    Vitaly Petrov, R31-06
    P11, 1.26.319 20 laps

    Lotus Renault GP had a dissappointing qualifying session today with neither car cracking into the top ten, despite showing promising pace in Q1.

    Vitaly set the fastest time in Q1, with a 1min 26.189secs. Had that time been set in Q2 would have taken him through to Q3. Unfortunately, he was unable to replicate the time in the second session and set the 11<SUP class=typo_exposants>th</SUP> fastest time, to which a five place grid penalty will be added for tomorrow’s race.

    Bruno set the tenth fastest time in Q1, but could only manage P15 in Q2, meaning both drivers have tough tasks ahead of them for Sunday’s inaugural Indian Grand Prix.

    Sebastian Vettel was fastest today with a lap of 1min 24.178secs whilst Lewis Hamilton was second quickest.
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    Grosjean to get Friday practice outings with Renault at last two grands prix
    Romain Grosjean will be drafted in for some Friday running by Renault later this season, AUTOSPORT can reveal, marking his return to the Formula 1 cockpit for the first time since 2009.

    Jacky Eeckelaert to lead 2012 HRT design
    Jacky Eeckelaert is to head up the design project of next year's HRT, AUTOSPORT has learned.

    Vettel goes quickest for Red Bull in final Indian Grand Prix practice
    Sebastian Vettel beat Jenson Button to the fastest time in a late battle for the top spot in the final practice session ahead of Indian Grand Prix qualifying.

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    Indian GP Practice Session 3
    Pos  Driver              Team/Car              Time       Gap      Laps
     1.  Sebastian Vettel    Red Bull-Renault      1m24.824s            18
     2.  Jenson Button       McLaren-Mercedes      1m25.191s  + 0.367s  15
     3.  Mark Webber         Red Bull-Renault      1m25.203s  + 0.379s  19
     4.  Lewis Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes      1m25.288s  + 0.464s  16
     5.  Fernando Alonso     Ferrari               1m25.784s  + 0.960s  17
     6.  Felipe Massa        Ferrari               1m26.058s  + 1.234s  16
     7.  Paul di Resta       Force India-Mercedes  1m26.785s  + 1.961s  19
     8.  Nico Rosberg        Mercedes              1m26.873s  + 2.049s  22
     9.  Adrian Sutil        Force India-Mercedes  1m26.958s  + 2.134s  19
    10.  Sebastien Buemi     Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m27.146s  + 2.322s  20
    11.  Michael Schumacher  Mercedes              1m27.217s  + 2.393s  21
    12.  Bruno Senna         Renault               1m27.235s  + 2.411s  20
    13.  Kamui Kobayashi     Sauber-Ferrari        1m27.262s  + 2.438s  19
    14.  Vitaly Petrov       Renault               1m27.280s  + 2.456s  18
    15.  Jaime Alguersuari   Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m27.387s  + 2.563s  20
    16.  Sergio Perez        Sauber-Ferrari        1m27.749s  + 2.925s  21
    17.  Pastor Maldonado    Williams-Cosworth     1m27.793s  + 2.969s  17
    18.  Rubens Barrichello  Williams-Cosworth     1m27.875s  + 3.051s  20
    19.  Jarno Trulli        Lotus-Renault         1m29.355s  + 4.531s  21
    20.  Heikki Kovalainen   Lotus-Renault         1m29.750s  + 4.926s  19
    21.  Timo Glock          Virgin-Cosworth       1m30.683s  + 5.859s  23
    22.  Narain Karthikeyan  HRT-Cosworth          1m30.900s  + 6.076s  25
    23.  Jerome D'Ambrosio   Virgin-Cosworth       1m32.851s  + 8.027s  19
    24.  Daniel Ricciardo    HRT-Cosworth          1m33.246s  + 8.422s  16
    Pirelli predicts unusual qualifying strategies due to tyre difference in India
    Pirelli director of motorsport Paul Hembery thinks teams are going to face an 'interesting challenge' with tyre strategies in qualifying because of the big time difference between the two compounds.

    Alonso says Ferrari's Indian Grand Prix chances depend on a qualifying upturn
    Fernando Alonso thinks he and his Ferrari team can be in the hunt for victory in the Indian Grand Prix if they can qualify near the front of the grid.

    Grosjean determined to make most of Renault Friday practice chance
    Romain Grosjean says he feels well prepared for his return to grand prix duties with Renault, and is determined to make the most of the opportunity.

    Ricciardo to take gearbox change penalty in India
    Daniel Ricciardo will receive a five-place grid penalty in India after having to take a gearbox change following final practice.
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    Vettel secures 13th pole position of the season in India
    Sebastian Vettel swept to the 13th pole position of his dominant 2011 season with another commanding performance in qualifying for Formula 1's inaugural Indian Grand Prix.

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    Indian GP Qualifying Session
    Pos  Driver                Team                 Time         Gap   
     1.  Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault     1m24.178s
     2.  Lewis Hamilton        McLaren-Mercedes     1m24.474s  + 0.296
     3.  Mark Webber           Red Bull-Renault     1m24.508s  + 0.330
     4.  Fernando Alonso       Ferrari              1m24.519s  + 0.341
     5.  Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes     1m24.950s  + 0.772
     6.  Felipe Massa          Ferrari              1m25.122s  + 0.944
     7.  Nico Rosberg          Mercedes             1m25.451s  + 1.273
     8.  Adrian Sutil          Force India-Mercedes
     9.  Sebastien Buemi       Toro Rosso-Ferrari
    10.  Jaime Alguersuari     Toro Rosso-Ferrari
    Q2 cut-off time: 1m26.319s                                   Gap **
    11.  Vitaly Petrov         Renault              1m26.319s   + 1.662
    12.  Michael Schumacher    Mercedes             1m26.337s   + 1.680
    13.  Paul di Resta         Force India-Mercedes 1m26.503s   + 1.846
    14.  Pastor Maldonado      Williams-Cosworth    1m26.537s   + 1.880
    15.  Bruno Senna           Renault              1m26.651s   + 1.994
    16.  Rubens Barrichello    Williams-Cosworth    1m27.247s   + 2.590
    17.  Sergio Perez          Sauber-Ferrari       1m27.562s   + 2.905
    Q1 cut-off time: 1m27.479s                                    Gap *
    18.  Kamui Kobayashi       Sauber-Ferrari       1m27.876s   + 1.687
    19.  Heikki Kovalainen     Lotus-Renault        1m28.565s   + 2.376
    20.  Jarno Trulli          Lotus-Renault        1m28.752s   + 2.563
    21.  Narain Karthikeyan    HRT-Cosworth         1m30.216s   + 4.027
    22.  Daniel Ricciardo      HRT-Cosworth         1m30.238s   + 4.049
    23.  Jerome D'Ambrosio     Virgin-Cosworth      1m30.866s   + 4.677
    24.  Timo Glock            Virgin-Cosworth      1m34.046s   + 7.857
    107% time: 1m32.222s
    * Gap to quickest in Q1
    ** Gap to quickest in Q2
    Happy Vettel expecting tricky race because of dust on the circuit
    Sebastian Vettel is expecting a tricky Indian Grand Prix because of the dust off the racing line after securing pole position on Saturday.

    Hamilton still upbeat about Indian Grand Prix race hopes despite penalty
    Lewis Hamilton said he remains optimistic about his Indian Grand Prix chances having gone second fastest in qualifying - which translates to fifth on the grid when his yellow flag penalty is applied.

    Webber says he does not want Vettel to give up positions for him
    Mark Webber says he does not want Red Bull team-mate Sebastian Vettel to give away any positions in order to help him secure second place in the drivers' championship.

    Buemi hails 'amazing' STR showing after getting both cars in the top ten
    Sebastien Buemi hailed Toro Rosso's performance as amazing after getting both its cars in the top ten ahead of tomorrow's Indian Grand Prix.

    Kobayashi says Sauber had enough pace for Q2 in India
    Kamui Kobayashi is adamant that his Sauber had enough pace to make it into Q2 after a disappointing qualifying for the Japanese.

    Button rues 'terrible' Indian Grand Prix qualifying
    Jenson Button described his Indian Grand Prix qualifying session as 'terrible' and admitted he was puzzled by how his McLaren's performance had changed since practice.

    Karthikeyan penalised for impeding Schumacher during qualifying
    Narain Karthikeyan will get a five-place grid penalty for impeding Michael Schumacher during qualifying for the Indian Grand Prix.

    Schumacher puzzled by gap to Nico Rosberg in tough Indian Grand Prix qualifying
    Michael Schumacher put his difficult Indian Grand Prix qualifying session down to issues with tyre vibrations and traffic - but said he still felt he should have been closer to Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg.

    Alonso says winning the Indian Grand Prix not out of the question
    Fernando Alonso is not ruling out fighting for victory in the Indian Grand Prix after qualifying on the second row of the grid.
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    @Blackeye117
    So, you are not a naughty boy. Well I returned from the prayer at aroungd 2:20 as in my area the time of prayer was 20 clock. So I only watched the only 10 mins of friday's session before KESC do their job.

    I have seen one showbiz personality during the 3rd Practice Session but he was not from India. Rowan Atkinson was presents in some team's garage don't know which though.

    Here is the pic of Ferrari of Massa showing sparks made from front wing touching the ground.
    -Formula 1 - Season 2011 - fripic17
    But it was not only one side the whole front wing was flexing like spring, and creating sparks from both sides. I have seen that yesterday and then I have seen the same again today too. Looks like Ferrari have found the trick behind flexible front wing that RedBull is using for 2 seasons now and most likely its the RedBull's front wing which was stolen in Monza after Webber's crash in the race that give the secret away.

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    Then which country girls are you interested in Spanish or British or German.
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    Rowan Atkinson aka Mr.Bean at the Buddh International Circuit:

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    F1 India: Star line-up at Indian Grand Prix

    GREATER NOIDA: Sachin Tendulkar will wave the chequered flag in the presence of a host of cricketers, politicians, Bollywood personalities and celebrities at the Buddh International Circuit for the inaugural Indian Grand Prix Sunday.

    Tendulkar, a die hard motor sport fan, has confirmed his attendance, a top official of Jaypee Sports International (JPSI) told IANS.

    Among other cricketers present will be Mahendra Singh Dhoni, whose love for speed is all too well known, Yuvraj Singh, Virat Kohli, VVS Laxman and England's Kevin Pietersen. Tennis star Sania Mirza will also grace the ocassion.

    "We have received confirmation from the players. Tendulkar is most likely to wave the chequered flag at the end of the race," the official said.

    Bollywood will be represented by Shah Rukh Khan, Arjun Rampal, Hrithik Roshan, and Abhishek Bachchan among others.

    "The prime minister, president and Congress president Sonia Gandhi have also been invited, but we have not received any confirmation from them," he said.

    Among politicians, Arun Jaitley, Kapil Sibal are expected to be at the circuit Sunday.

    Source: F1 India: Star line-up at Indian Grand Prix - The Economic Times
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    Felipe Massa
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    @genius rowan atkinson in a mclaren guy so he was at mclaren

    i didnt saw it hitting the ground from the other way but later that issue was solved may be ... well monza ferrari territory someone stole sent to maranello
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    Felipe Massa calls for changes to Buddh circuit kerbs after qualifying crash
    Felipe Massa believes the design of the kerbs at the Buddh circuit's Turn 9 should be altered for future years after his crash in qualifying.

    Karthikeyan happy with qualifying form
    Narain Karthikeyan admitted he was very pleased with his performance in qualifying for the Indian Grand Prix after finishing right behind team-mate Daniel Ricciardo.

    FIA confirms provisional Indian GP grid
    The FIA has confirmed the provisional grid for the Indian Grand Prix with the raft of penalties having left onlookers unsure about the exact order of positions after qualifying.

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     1.  Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault
     2.  Mark Webber           Red Bull-Renault
     3.  Fernando Alonso       Ferrari
     4.  Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes
     5.  Lewis Hamilton        McLaren-Mercedes
     6.  Felipe Massa          Ferrari
     7.  Nico Rosberg          Mercedes
     8.  Adrian Sutil          Force India-Mercedes
     9.  Sebastien Buemi       Toro Rosso-Ferrari
    10.  Jaime Alguersuari     Toro Rosso-Ferrari
    11.  Michael Schumacher    Mercedes
    12.  Paul di Resta         Force India-Mercedes
    13.  Pastor Maldonado      Williams-Cosworth
    14.  Bruno Senna           Renault
    15.  Rubens Barrichello    Williams-Cosworth
    16.  Vitaly Petrov         Renault
    17.  Kamui Kobayashi       Sauber-Ferrari
    18.  Heikki Kovalainen     Lotus-Renault
    19.  Jarno Trulli          Lotus-Renault
    20.  Sergio Perez          Sauber-Ferrari
    21.  Jerome D'Ambrosio     Virgin-Cosworth
    22.  Daniel Ricciardo      HRT-Cosworth
    23.  Narain Karthikeyan    HRT-Cosworth
    24.  Timo Glock            Virgin-Cosworth
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    Overtaking is going to be hard cause of the dust. Its a bit like Hungary in the early years. It used to be even dustier there back in the day.

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