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    Uncle: I was just pulling your leg after man1 incident!! lol ...Anyways bro your reply is spot on!! (Y)(Y)
    Nothing to see here.

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    @UK


    Just a simple question what happens if this incident occurs to Hamilton and Mclaren loses Hamilton the first name that rumoured would be Mika and not a young driver and remember Bruno Senna have drive in DTM for Mercedes team. Now a without testing a rookie could enter for a back of the grid team but certainly not for a team who is fighting for third spot in WCC. This situation is true for any team who in this season is in the midfield fighting for higher WCC position. I mention Sebestian Bourdais because he has driven this year's car and also by sheer luck he is driving the same engine that was in Massa's car so he knows how this could work. Any new driver whether a rookie or has driven F1 car before needs time to adjust with the team and without testing it is not possible at all. Badoer is a tester for a team who has won 8 WCC titles and 7 WDC titles during his testing times and that means something.


    We have to wait and see what Grosjean could do in Valencia and onward and if he also not qualifies for Q2 in even one of the race that means Nelson is right otherwise Nelson is a real crap and not a F1 class driver.
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    "Fear is part of people's life. Some of them don't know how to face it, others — where I include myself — learn coexisting with it or face it, not as a negative thing, but like a autoprotection sensation."

    -- Ayrton Senna

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    Vatanen announces cabinet members



    Ari Vatanen has announced the leading cabinet members who will support his bid to become FIA president.



    Canada close to 2010 race deal



    Montreal officials are close to a deal to get the Canadian Grand Prix back on the calendar next year, the city's Mayor said on Thursday.



    Todt: I will be neutral to all teams



    FIA presidential candidate Jean Todt has dismissed suggestions that his former role as Ferrari team principal would hinder his ability to be impartial when ruling on Formula 1 matters.
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    "Fear is part of people's life. Some of them don't know how to face it, others — where I include myself — learn coexisting with it or face it, not as a negative thing, but like a autoprotection sensation."

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    Ari Vatanen

    is fighting a losing battle it seems, with Todt looking more and more likely to be elected. It would have been nice if Vatanen would get elected, a man from outside F1, with no ties to or association with any team.. The one thing i like about what Todt has said is that he is in favour of full time race stewards. Other than that, i wish Vatanen some how pulls off a miracle.



    @Toofan


    Ah bro, Rani whatever is/was one of the barsati you know what


    @genius83


    Trust me my friend, had this situation occurred at Mclaren, the driver to get the seat right away would have been Pedro de La Rosa. Hakkinen would not have crossed their mind, and after Pedro, they would have taken on a young driver, in all probability Bruno Senna. That guy might or might not be good but he has so much going for him, his surname, the millions has from his family and the millions that would pour into any team he joins by virtue of sponsors. Brazilian giants like Petrobras etc would all back him. No Massa or anyone else can compete with the surname that kid has. Anyway this is just a moot point. In time we will see what Ferrari does. Schumacher's press conference kinda suggested that he has not yet given up on a come back and maybe he needs another month or so before being fully fit and he might try a come back after that. A lot of mess is brewing up at Ferrari anyway because of the complicated Massa-Alonso-Raikkonen situation. Seems Raikkonen wants to continue racing in 2010 and Ferrari want to send him home.


    Romain Grosjean has gone off the boil aftr his massive crash at Monaco and the second one at Hungaroring. He has not been driving well lately. One must realize that even if he was at his best, stepping into a team with Alonso is no easy task. He will not be expected to do anything special at Valencia, just as you have pointed out repeatedly that rookies are at a disadvantage. As for how Flavio runs his team, that's very obvious to everyone. Go back to the days of Benetton and Schumacher and you will get your answer how Flavio likes to run his team, a clear team leader, the team is built around him and the other driver is there just to make up the numbers.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    !-- <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf=http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" xmlns:dc=http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:trackback=http://madskills.com/public/xml/rss/module/trackback/" rdfescription rdf:about=http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/08/a-visit-to-jarno-trullis-vineyard/" dc:identifier=http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/08/a-visit-to-jarno-trullis-vineyard/" dc:title=A visit to Jarno Trulli’s vineyard" trackback:ping=http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/08/a-visit-to-jarno-trullis-vineyard/trackback/" / /rdf:RDF --]h1What&rsquo;s Ferrari&rsquo;s next driver move?/h1

    Michael Schumacher&rsquo;s comeback-that-never-was, has drawn the attention in recent days and it was clear looking at his face and his body language at the Geneva press conference how disappointed he was.


    There was a point to him coming back; Massa, his friend, was injured, Ferrari needed him, they want to finish third in the championship to salvage some respectability from a disappointing season and Schumacher&rsquo;s presence in the car would have given some much needed airtime and exposure to their sponsors and backers. So it made sense for him to do it from many angles.


    Sadly the comeback was allowed to take on a life of its own before he had cleared the medical hurdle with his doctors and here I&rsquo;m slightly surprised that this was allowed to happen. Clearly there was sufficient doubt all along about the neck injury he had sustained for his people to sound the note of caution they did, but Schumacher himself must have been quite gung-ho about it to allow things to escalate as they did. The &lsquo;no&rsquo; from the doctors was clearly a cold shower for him.


    The idea of him coming back in future, either later this year or maybe next year in a third Ferrari seems more fanciful. Why would he do that, what would he have to gain from it? Does he think, as Lance Armstrong appears to have done, that the current field isn&rsquo;t up to much and that a victorious comeback might be possible? Hardly.


    Italian sources insist that Ferrari has Fernando Alonso under contract for the future, so it already has the &rsquo;seasoned champion&rsquo; Montezemolo was talking about. And here one starts to wonder about Ferrari&rsquo;s next move.


    Giving Luca Badoer a run at Valencia is clearly a holding move by the team. Will Badoer still be in the car at Abu Dhabi? Perhaps not.


    Behind the scenes the team has been looking for a way to strike a deal with Kimi Raikkonen to leave a year early, presumably so that Alonso can start racing for Ferrari in 2010. This has not been successful so far. So the problem it has been wrestling with was that if it wanted to run Alonso next year, which it has an option to do, it has three drivers for two cars; Massa, Raikkonen, Alonso.


    However, if it became clear that Massa&rsquo;s injuries were such that he would not be able to come back and race in 2010, then they could perhaps look at brokering a deal whereby Alonso would be drafted into the Ferrari alongside Raikkonen. The pair would then form Ferrari&rsquo;s 2010 line up. BMW&rsquo;s withdrawal at the end of this year means that Robert Kubica, who is likely to replace Alonso, might be able to negotiate an early move to Renault and then both teams would have the remaining races of 2009 in which to bed in their 2010 drivers. We&rsquo;ve seen these kinds of deals done in the past.


    But Massa&rsquo;s condition is the key to it and, quite rightly, Ferrari will keep the door open for Massa for as long as it seems that his racing career will continue.


    Rubens Barrichello&rsquo;s latest twitter post on Massa&rsquo;s condition sounded quite positive, but it was more of a &rdquo; he&rsquo;s not as bad as he could have been&rdquo; tone than a &ldquo;he&rsquo;ll be in the car again by Monza.&rdquo;


    We wish him well and watch the unfolding situation with interest.






    P.S. Taken from James Allen's blog. www.jamesallenonf1.com









    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    @UK

    What I don't understand is it takes six months for doctors and Michal to understand that he has some pain in the collar bone as was been found on monday's scan that it was a fracture. What are the chances that this fracture becomes evident because of Michal's Megullo test and his karting outing. Because under normal circumstances this is quite dangerous to allow a driver having such G-force experience after an injury like his motorcycle crash. And this also confirms one thing that Massa have to wait for more then we up until now are predicting that is not only this season but may be another 3 to 6 months before he will able to take the formula 1 car seat and I am predicting now that he will not be able to enter next season.


    You are right in saying that Briatore used to build a team around one driver from the past and reminds me Ricardo Rosset who has drive for Tyrrell. This is why I am posting an interview of Ricardo Rosset in which He has talk about the inside politics of F1. This interview is been posted by a Plant F1 forum member and it is the English translation of the real interview:


    Original interview


    Planet F1 topic Link





    I thought I might as well shed some light over the subject and bring to you an extended interview with former Brazilian F1 driver Ricardo Rosset, who drove for Arrows, Lola and Tyrrell.

    I think it's not fair to look at just one side of things and this interview can clear the sight of some F1 fans who know jack**** about the inner side of this sport.

    I translated only the bits related to F1. He talks a lot about his other experiences in motor sports.

    The interview was held on March 2008.


    GP: How important was Rubens Barrichello at that point (F-3) of your career?


    RR: Well, very important. He is a very technical driver, who I consider to be in a very high level, he knows the drill. We used to discuss setups a lot. He was British F-3 champion and gave me lots of tips. He helped me a lot.


    GP: From then on your performance improved


    RR: I was very devoted also. Of course, Rubinho helped me a lot and then, in the process, it became reciprocal. I am pretty technical too. Since I was 8 I used to disassemble carburators. I always liked the mechanics of a car. We always discussed a lot about setups, what to do in the races. When he practiced in a F1, I used to show up and help him a little. It was very cool, our camaraderie was good.


    GP: What were your strong rivals back then?


    RR: Of all of them, it was the one who was Rubinho&rsquo;s teammate in Stewart, Jan Magnussen. There were strong competitors in British F3 back then: him, (Dario) Franchitti, (Pedro) de la Rosa&hellip; good drivers came out of there.


    GP: You made yourself available for testing for Williams. Tell us more about that&hellip;


    RR: Back then, there wasn&rsquo;t this testing culture and that&rsquo;s what I wanted. I wanted to get into F1 as a test-driver to acquire mileage and experience to be in other team&rsquo;s main lineup. It occurs that Frank Williams signed (Jean-Cristophe) Boullion because of Renault and ran out of sits. I had to opt between F-Indy and F1 and I chose the latter.


    GP: You did refuse an offer to have a F-Indy race-sit, didn't you?


    RR: I tested for Walker. It was a good drive, I was quick at Homestead test, but in the road circuit, besides testing for F1. It was a milestone in my career. I knew that, if I went to F-Indy, first it wasn&rsquo;t to my liking and second I&rsquo;d be too old for F1, since I was relatively old. It was all or nothing. I said: &ldquo;I can&rsquo;t be a test-driver, teams are not open, I don&rsquo;t want to go to F-Indy and if I go, I&rsquo;m not coming back&rdquo;, so I took what was ahead, and that was Arrows.


    GP: Do you consider a mistake to have gone to Arrows instead of Minardi in 1996?


    RR: Either were very weak, with financial difficulties&hellip; It was unfortunate. I came in a time, me and Rubinho, when established drivers didn&rsquo;t switch teams. There were no vacancies, you had nowhere to go. Nowadays you see renovation with drivers going away and race-sits being available every time. That helps a new driver.


    GP: Tell us about your difficulties with Arrows.


    RR: Look at my pre-season: I had 30 laps worth of practice in Estoril, Portugal before the season start to learn how the car&rsquo;s gearbox and mechanisms worked. I went straight to the first race. I mean, today, drivers have 10 thousand km before a race. It&rsquo;s a different story. The car is very physical, hard to drive. To have 30 laps and finish 8th in Australia was all I could do. Then it started because we didn&rsquo;t have money. In Monaco, it started to rain 15 minutes before the race and we hadn&rsquo;t practiced in the wet.

    They gave everyone 15 minutes to practice and when I was getting ready to go in, the crew told me: &ldquo; You can&rsquo;t drive.&rdquo; And I was &ldquo;But how? Isn&rsquo;t it going to be a wet race?&rdquo; I asked. They answered: &ldquo;We have only one front wing. If you crash, you don&rsquo;t start&rdquo;. I mean, a circuit like Monaco where I never drove in the wet, I would have to drive clueless. &ldquo;That&rsquo;s all we can do&rdquo;, they said. So it was like this. This world no one sees. It was very difficult indeed. I thought it was very strange, because the scenario was worse than many F-3 and F-3000 teams. It was very bad.


    GP: In 1997 it was worse, since you went to just one race and didn&rsquo;t even do one start with Lola&hellip;


    RR: That was sheer insanity from those involved. We came in a bit fooled by a dream that had a huge sponsor (Mastercard), a big structure. But there came the first race and the car wouldn&rsquo;t switch gears. It&rsquo;s not that it didn&rsquo;t qualify for the race, it just really didn&rsquo;t switch gears. You hit it and it didn&rsquo;t change, didn&rsquo;t go up or down. The car didn&rsquo;t work in the first race. We went there simply for the record. Of course, the car didn&rsquo;t qualify, we arrived in Brazil and the sponsor broke the contract. It was madness, an irresponsibility from all those involved.


    GP: Was it painful to see the year through without a drive?


    RR: It was very bad, because I was just starting in F1. It was hard to cope because you devote an entire life to get there, you give everything, face challenges&hellip; I was lost. I thought my career was over until Tyrrell came about.


    GP: By the way, you managed a kind of &ldquo;dribble&rdquo; to stick yourself to Tyrrell signing with their new owner, Reynard. That generated some heat, innit? Since they had signed Norberto Fontana&hellip;


    RR: It was a fight, that. I had all support from Reynard, whom I knew in England and I believed in my potential. Tyrrell had another option, but since Reynard had just bought the team, they opted for me and they started to boycott me and there were financial interests one over the other. It was a complete mess. It was also a tough year. I came to know afterwards that a great scheme was being plotted behind the Japanese, (Tora) Takagi, to convince everyone he was the man and that was the team to form Honda, what happened years later. With all that, I wasn&rsquo;t qualifying to races and it was hard.


    GP: Were the results really &ldquo;fabricated&rdquo;?


    RR: Basically. They forced all the car development onto Takagi&rsquo;s and I had to fight with an undriveable thing. When I started to drive ahead of others, the car didn&rsquo;t deliver. It was a cheat.


    GP: And what kind of cheat did they do to you?


    RR: Ah, all kinds. It&rsquo;s so easy to sabotage. They would drop three pounds off the tire&rsquo;s pressure before qualifying. That happened a lot: I would measure my tire&rsquo;s pressure and they were off. Then you found just about everything: the bar was wrong, the wing was wrong, all &ldquo;coincidentally&rdquo;. It&rsquo;s too easy to take 3 to 4 tenths off a car.


    GP: You would sometimes race with Takagi&rsquo;s used equipment, right?


    RR: It was a&hellip; Look, everything they could do to xxxxx me off, they did. Then, by the middle of the season, everything came clear. The Honda team was on the makes, but it was an internal fight between Tyrrell crew and Takagi to take Honda and, on the other side, Reynard to take Honda. Since I was a Reynard driver, they (Tyrrell) wanted to show their driver was better, stronger. Then, in the end, it was what it was.


    GP: And how was it to deal with all that?


    RR: Difficult, yeah? It was one of the reasons that made me not even try anymore after 1998, because you devote yourself, put your life at stake, and that was the year I risked myself the most, because I wouldn&rsquo;t admit to trail the peck and would put the car on the edge, risking to crash. I would crash eventually.

    But when the year came to an end, I sat down and thought: &ldquo;Either I manage to be in a good environment, with an average team, or big, that provide me with the means to drive competitively, or I risk my life here. I will take a new path, because this ain&rsquo;t taking me nowhere.&rdquo; Then I decided to go back home, live my life and run my business and that was it.


    GP: Your despair behind the wheel was clear in Monaco. From then on, a lot of people started to make fun of you. How was it to face all that?


    RR: I never cared much to what the press says. I didn&rsquo;t worry because no one could evaluate what was happening. In Monaco, people would make fun of me questioning how could I do that. Well, the car&rsquo;s clutch didn&rsquo;t work. The reverse didn&rsquo;t work. Only the driver in the cockpit knows. And I also feel that for Rubinho when they made fun of him. Only the driver in the car knows what&rsquo;s happening. People can say whatever they want, make fun, it doesn&rsquo;t matter to me.

    I knew what I was doing, the difficulties I was going through and I had nothing to do. How could you make the car move if it spins on the axis but the gear wouldn&rsquo;t change? Who&rsquo;s in there knows what&rsquo;s going on. I had my family&rsquo;s support, they loved me, I never lost my confidence I&rsquo;d be a quick driver and I liked to drive. So, actually, I&rsquo;m very comfortable about this, I never had any problems.


    GP: Michael Schumacher came to your support back then, is it true?


    RR: Yes, a lot. By the way, he&rsquo;s a guy who always surprised me. There are people who surprise you and people who let you down. Schumacher, (Jean) Alesi, always when we met, they talked to me. Schumacher once gave me a ride to the Japan GP. I remember to this day. I was going away walking from the track to the hotel. The team didn&rsquo;t have anything more and left me on the track and I was walking with my stuff. Then Schumacher and his manager stopped by and said: &ldquo;Come on in, I&rsquo;ll give you ride.&rdquo;

    When we were already in the car he asked: &ldquo;What&rsquo;s going on? Why are you walking?&rdquo;. I answered: &ldquo;Look, it&rsquo;s a long story It&rsquo;s a different world to that you are living in. It&rsquo;s another world, a dirty one.&rdquo; He went on: &ldquo;You can&rsquo;t stop, you can&rsquo;t give up&rdquo;. I said: &ldquo;I wouldn&rsquo;t like to, but it&rsquo;s very hard, it&rsquo;s hard to find a team who supports you.&rdquo; He was always very helpful. They knew what was going on.

    And there are jerks like (Jacques) Villeneuve who talk a lot of bullxxxx. The problem is the press sometimes listens. It&rsquo;s hard because the press sometimes writes what it sees and doesn&rsquo;t have any knowledge of what&rsquo;s behind that. Monaco was an example of that.


    GP: You described the people who surprised you. Who let you down?


    RR: Several people. F1 circus as a whole was frustrating. It&rsquo;s not pure sport. There are lots of interests. That&rsquo;s very bad. Some drivers, like Villeneuve, don&rsquo;t deserve an ounce of respect. He&rsquo;s a very low, bad person. And he ended up like that. He was a champion by chance, because he had a good car. It&rsquo;s even bad because of who he is son of (Gilles), a fantastic guy whose son thought too much of himself and even thought he was better than his father. Just an ugly guy.


    GP: Not to mention 1998, when you had bad shunts, like Germany, Hungary and Belgium. Was Hockenheim the worst of them all?


    RR: Yes, it was. It&rsquo;s that problem of living on the edge. I ended up crashing, not much to do. On turn 1, before the old straight, I entered in the car&rsquo;s maximum limit; it went over the kerbs and passed. When it passed, it whipped off and hit the wall very hard. They (paramedics) wouldn&rsquo;t even let me race because my helmet was cracked. I came out walking, but the impact in my head reached 40G. That was my worst crash.


    GP: Tell us how was that accident in Spa seen from your cockpit. What was the sight you had of that mega pile-up?


    RR: I hadn&rsquo;t any! All drivers were against that start. A lot was said on the grid, they called everyone to see if the start would be made under safety car. There was a lot of water on the track. It wasn&rsquo;t only a matter of visibility, but also of aquaplaning. But they decided to start that way. Soon after the start, people even slowed down on the first corner. When I hit the gas, a huge water spray was raised and I couldn&rsquo;t see anything. I was guiding myself using the side guard-rail. It was a huge spray.

    Suddenly, I saw a wheel flying from inside the spray and hitting the fence. It was like fog on a mountain. I saw the wheel flying and lifted my foot. When I started seeing again, everyone was crashed. All I could do was hit the brakes, but aquaplaning, the car didn&rsquo;t slow down and I saw Trulli crossing the track. Then I thought: &ldquo;My goodness, I&rsquo;ll kill the guy&rdquo;, because I would hit his side. I was worried about him. I hit him right in the middle, but I didn&rsquo;t have much to do. The car was blocked. Then I hit him, pushed him and the car stopped.

    I hit the seatbelt, jumped out of the car and saw Rubinho, who stopped right by my side, coming out of the car with several red stains on his suit. He was screaming saying it was hurting, passed his hand and thought it was blood. But I saw it and said: &ldquo;Calm down, it&rsquo;s not blood&rdquo;! It was oil from the rear wheel which sprayed and hit him. So much it must have hurt. &ldquo;Stay calm because you&rsquo;re not hurt&rdquo;. Then I helped him and took him to the medical center. Thank God nothing happened. Those seconds were creepy.


    GP: We know that in F1 several drivers pay to race. How much did these years took away from your pocket?


    RR: From my pocket, nothing. It&rsquo;s not that I had to pay. Any driver needed to help completing the teams&rsquo; budgets and some didn&rsquo;t have the cash needed. Verstappen, Takagi&hellip; all of them needed to help, complement, bring in their sponsorship shares. Thank God I always had the support of my sponsors, who helped me to complete this share. So, from my pocket I never had to spend any money, it wasn&rsquo;t possible anyway because of the general level.


    GP: So, the decision to quit F1 was yours?


    RR: It was mine. As a consequence of other decisions. There was this episode which disappointed me a lot and was very serious, made me thought if it was worth it. It happened with Arrows after the Belgium GP, where Verstappen crashed very hard because of the car losing direction and hitting the wall. We found out the wheels axis was broken. I didn&rsquo;t know why, nor they did, and we went testing in Silverstone. Since he was recovering, I took his place.

    In a sequences of high speed &lsquo;S&rsquo;s, my axis got broken. It was exactly the same thing. I went back to the workshop and questioned the mechanics what the problem was. Thank God there were mechanics supporting me and they said: &ldquo;Look, no one knows. It&rsquo;s breaking the axis&rdquo;. I asked what would we do and they said: &ldquo;Not much to do. The axis started to break and maybe we will have to deploy a steel axis. We don&rsquo;t know if there&rsquo;s enough time, because we&rsquo;re on our way to Monza&rdquo;. That surprised me: &ldquo;You gotta be kidding. Two axis broken, you have no idea what it is and you&rsquo;re going to Monza? What are you gonna do?&rdquo; They said: &ldquo;Not much to do.&rdquo;

    Back then, Tom Walkinshaw and others called me to talk and I said: &ldquo;I&rsquo;m not going to race. If you don&rsquo;t discover why the axis are breaking, I&rsquo;m not racing. I know you don&rsquo;t know&rdquo;. They tried to fool me: &ldquo;No, we know, we tried to fix it&hellip;&rdquo;. I went: &ldquo;No, you don&rsquo;t know. I got info from inside. I&rsquo;m not telling who, but I know you haven&rsquo;t got a clue of what&rsquo;s going on&rdquo;. Then, they pressured me. &ldquo;If you don&rsquo;t race, we&rsquo;re bringing another driver to replace you&rdquo;. I said: &ldquo;Ok, you can put another driver, but I&rsquo;ll report to FIA because if he dies, I know I did warn you that it would happen, because he is going to die. If he loses the axis at the end of Monza&rsquo;s straight, he is going to die. And you don&rsquo;t give a damn about his life&rdquo;. And they came with the following answer: &ldquo;If you are afraid to die, you shouldn&rsquo;t even be in F1 to begin with&rdquo;.

    The funny thing is that it was the same personnel involved with Williams when Ayrton (Senna) died. I said: &ldquo;You committed a mistake once, already killed a driver. Does it need a genius to know that a failure can kill a driver?&rdquo;. That was two years later. And I went: &ldquo;I&rsquo;m not risking my neck. If you find out what it is, I race. If not, I&rsquo;m not racing and I&rsquo;ll report to FIA. You can say whataver you like, but I&rsquo;ll go to Bernie (Ecclestone) and I&rsquo;ll tell him what&rsquo;s going on, because people will die&rdquo;. They got kinda desperate. That was the level of disappointment. They didn&rsquo;t give a xxxx about life, didn&rsquo;t care. Go there and race. If you die, you died.

    Then I went to Verstappen and said: &ldquo;They didn&rsquo;t find out and we&rsquo;re heading to Monza&rdquo;. Well, in the end, 3 or 4 days before the race, they found out it was a lot of wheels which wouldn&rsquo;t fit the axis. As it was, the nuts were loosened and created a gap between the wheel and the axis, breaking it. But that was only discovered because I wanted to boycott the race. The level of irresponsibility that went through F1 back then, right after Ayrton&rsquo;s crash, with the same people, it made you wonder if they were crazy. But they didn&rsquo;t care. If you died, it was your problem. Then it started ringing in my head: &ldquo;Either I race properly or don&rsquo;t at all.&rdquo;


    GP: Do you consider F1 was unfair to you?


    RR: I don&rsquo;t. I just didn&rsquo;t have the opportunity, actually. I didn&rsquo;t have the chance in the right moment, at the right time. Prejudiced are those who don&rsquo;t have any opportunity at all. I had and raced. A lot of good drivers didn&rsquo;t make it&hellip; I did. It wasn&rsquo;t the best thing ever, but whatever. Life doesn&rsquo;t end there.


    GP: Who is your idol?


    RR: Ah, Ayrton, absolutely. I think Ayrton, not only as a driver, sharp, outstanding, but as a person. I always admired what he said, the way he lived his life, the focus he gave on the things he did. I was inspired by him because of his fairness. Not only the driver, but the person.


    GP: Do you see any future for Brazilians in F1, excluding Barrichello-Massa-Piquet?


    RR: There always will be surprising drivers. I think they just didn&rsquo;t show up yet. Massa came recently and has a great career ahead. He&rsquo;s a great driver. I don&rsquo;t know for how many more years Rubinho will race. If you let him, he&rsquo;ll race forever and he can do that. About Piquet, to me, he&rsquo;s future is unknown. He&rsquo;s very young. He has a great support, his father can help him and he has a great future ahead. The ones who are behind need that. But I don&rsquo;t follow much.


    GP: If you could go back in time and change anything, what would you change?


    RR: I think I did everything the way it could be done. I wouldn&rsquo;t try to change it in any way. I think that I always faced crossings in which I needed to turn left or right and I think I turned the right away for each moment. Not always the options were good and I always tried to take the best one. I don&rsquo;t regret anything I&rsquo;ve done. If I could, I&rsquo;d have started at the age of eight. Then the story could be different. But I believe in faith. Maybe it happened the way it was meant to be.



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    @genius83

    No, the fracture and injuries to Schumacher were quite bad from the start. If you read James Allen's blog you will see that he, James Allen, was unsure of Schumacher's return long before he had his medical test. You are spot on about Schumacher realizing how bad the injury was after his first F1 test. Simply explained, one gets a fracture or a strain in some part of the body, but that allows us to continue our day to day functions and it's not unless we put extra pressure on that [particular area that we feel the pain. That is how Schumacher was, and of course driving an F1 car brought all that to light. Without the tests , he would not have known the extent of his injuries and he would have recovered with time. You are right about Massa too, he might take a lot longer than what we expect and even then, when he returns, it remains to be seen how he goes. Some drivers get over these things, some don't.


    I am rubbing my hands in glee at the prospect of a Raikkonen-Alonso pairing at Ferrari or Alonso-Kubica pairing at Renault. It would make for great racing, the best drivers in identical cars fighting it out. What i could gather from James Allen's piece is, that there is a realistic opportunity that Alonso could leave Renault early and be in a Ferrari for the last few races of the season and Kubica would then be at Renault, before the end of the season. Sounds far fetched but crazy things have happened in F1, and a lot depends on how Massa is doing say by end of September or early to mid October. There is the sad option that Ferrari might pay Raikkonen all his salary and ask him to leave but i feel he is going to turn it on big time in the coming races and Ferrari will find it hard to get rid of him. If he is performing why get rid of him anyway?


    As always nice work pasting parts of the interview. Reminds me of the old days. Norberto Fontana, an Argentinian, was talked about as the next Fangio and Jan Magnussen was supposed to be the next Senna according to Sir Jackie Stewart HIs description of Jacques Villeneuve is pretty harsh though it might be true to some extent, but Jacques never thought of himself as someone who was better than his father, never. The thing with Jacques was that he was only concerned with his own work, he was never interested in making politically correct statements. He called it as he saw it, and in a day and age when most F1 drivers were/are Robots who tow the team and sponsor line, he and Montoya were a breath of fresh air. Quite funny that he should say Jacques became champion by chance, lol! He should be shown a few of Jacques` races from PPG Indy car and from F1. No one becomes champion by chance. They call him, Jacques Villeneuve, the conqueror of two worlds, that can't be by chance.


    Here is a little piece from Wikipedia about him.



    The 1998 season was another unsuccessful one for Rosset, leading to a joke from Martin Brundle, who, upon Murray Walker's suggestion that people were debating whether Rosset was F1 quality, he remarked "it's a fairly short debate". Also, after severely damaging his car in practice at the 1998 Monaco Grand Prix and receiving a warning from the stewards, his furious mechanics switched the first and last letters of his surname on his paddock scooter to form the word "tosser".sup[2]/sup
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    I pray Kimi discover his old form like he was when he was at Mclaren. A very fast driver if he does not before the end of 2009 season he will be out. Sad that talented driver like KImi is wasting his talent and is not concerned about repairing his reputation.


    Unclekracker, how can sponsors allow drivers to switch teams before the end of season? Also in Renaults case they can not let Fernando Alonso because he scores all points which is important in constructor championship. They get money and good garage places if they finish high in the constructor championship. Robert Kubica can move because BMW will no longer stay in formula 1 racing after 2009.


    Michael Schumacher will race in formula 1 this year that is my feeling. He is injured right now but he can be fit after a month i think hopefully.

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    Looks like my comment has created some confusion for you so I am clarifying that,"I am not saying that Michal or his doctors don't know about the injury but what I am saying is either of them have make mistake by allowing/going for the Megullo test so who is the culprit here Michal or his doctors. I also have seen a real life example of when doctors forget to tell about a fracture. Remember my sister's accident last year she was discharged from the hospital after a full week Thanks to ALMIGHTY ALLAH but the doctors forget to told us that she had a shoulder joint fracture and we came to know that when she complains about the pain in the left shoulder joint after 3 days we have to go for a prescribed checkup so we tell them about the pain and doctor was like Yes she certainly have pain because she has suffered a fracture during the accident on left side and you should not allow her to move anything heavy for one month atleast. We ask but why you don't tell us that before and he said that did she was not wearing arm sling when she was in the ward and we were like no she was not and then the doctor appologised for that not informing us beforehand.


    Interesting points are raised like Jos Verstappen's crash then his own crash and after a thorough search they found that there is a problem with the car and coincidentally the pitcrew was the same who was working for Williams in 94' when Senna crashed. Monaco Incident was a real shame for anyone involved in it.


    @Shehryaar


    As UK have said that crazy things have happened in F1 so certainly this could. Although you are right insaying that how could sponsors allow such a move then answer is first Kubica moves to Renault and then Alonso to move to Ferrari. Michal may return but the question is when and where and I could say that may be Suzuka or Interlagos but not before that.
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    @genius83


    Firstly let me say that doctors are a$$holes in Pakistan. I hope your sister recovered fully, it's been quite some time since that accident. The doctors here are ...oh well lets leave that because i have a lot to say about them.


    I got your point from your first post. The point i was trying to make is that perhaps Schumacher did not feel discomfort to the same level and that is why he agreed to drive in place of Massa. The forces that one is exposed to in F1 are so very different, and it's probably after his test that he realized how bad his crash was. Of course, the doctors are to be blamed for that entirely, but in their defense, i don't think Schumacher consulted them before agreeing to make a come back, even then the doctors should have warned him which they clearly failed to do.


    @Shehryaar


    Anything is possible in F1. If Renault get Kubica early they will feel the team will score more or less the same points as Alonso, and they in turn will release Alonso who will join Ferrari, though the thought of having both Alonso and Kubica on the team and for a change have two drivers scoring points must be tempting for Renault. if i were Alonso, i would stay at Renault for 2010. That car will be a front runner next year. With the rules stability they will improve the car and the Renault engine is the most economical engine on the grid. With refelling ban coming into effect next season, that could be a huge advantage. Already we have seen this season when the weights are announced after qualifying and projected laps given, Alonso has gone two or three laps longer just about always which is a clear proof of how economical that engine is. Starting five or seven or ten kilos lighter than the opposition next season could work very well. Weight is everything in F1. He along with Kubica willl make the car work and it will be a better bet than Ferrari for 2010.


    In a way i feel sad that Raikkonen is being paid to leave. I mean it doesn't get worse than that when someone tells you, please take all your money and leave because we think you are so bad that we will actually pay you to get rid of you. He might shine now, primarily due to the car having improved a lot and Massa's accident and Badoer or Gene whoever they get in the car with him will make him look good, but i wish too that some how the Raikkonen of old returns. The Raikkonen from Mclaren days like you said.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Badoer to drive F60 at Fiorano



    Ferrari test driver Luca Badoer will be able to familiarise himself behind the wheel of one of the team's F60s ahead of his return to Formula 1 next weekend, when he drives the car for promotional purposes at Fiorano on Monday and Tuesday.



    Domenicali: Massa progress encouraging



    Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali says Felipe Massa is continuing to make good progress in his recovery from the head injuries he sustained in qualifying for the Hungarian Grand Prix, after visiting the Brazilian at his home.


    Silverstone rumoured to be on verge of takover


    Silverstone is rumoured to be on the verge of takeover that will be backed by "Middle Eastern financiers".


    @UK


    Today is the D-day for Renault as FIA hear their appeal against a race ban decision. So what you think of the outcome the same that happens to McLaren/Hamilton Melbourne case this season or restriction from scoring WCC points but WDC points will be counted or a big fine.


    This is from the MotoGP Brno where in 250cc Alvaro Bautista have try to do a wheelie after finishing the race but what happens is hilarious although sorry for Alvaro but he does not injured so have a laugh at it.



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    Renault to race at Valencia after appeal



    Renault will race in the European Grand Prix this weekend after the FIA Court of Appeal overturned the team's one-race suspension today.


    An FIA statement said:


    Having heard the arguments of the parties, the court has decided as follows:
    1. to allow the appeal and overturn the sanction imposed by the stewards in the contested decision;
    2. to issue a reprimand and impose a fine of $50,000 upon Renault



    It added that the full reasons for the decision will be released in the coming days.
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    @genius83


    I am late in replying and the verdict is already out. Thought it was expected on Tuesday. Again, like many of the past incidents the ruling of race stewards has been overturned because of lack of consistency. After all which team would " knowingly " release their driver in an unsafe manner? It was a silly ban, a knee jerk reaction to what had happened that weekend.


    The video of
    Bautista doing a wheelie is funny. He joins a long list of people who did the same here on 14th of August, and some lost their lives sadly.




    Driving the F60 for promotional purpose Wonder why it is not last year's car or not Marc Gene behind the wheel
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Renault is allowed to race is a very good decision. Sale of tickets is very slow for the race maybe now there will be some more interest after Fernando Alonso is allowed to race. The regulations are very confusing teams are banned then allowed to race then banned again then fined. Long summer break is over and racing is going to start soon. Waiting for a very good race between Red Bull and Brawn GP cars and Mclaren. Hope Kimi is ready to race because Badoer is very much old and team is not expecting anything from him. I read a funny story on planet f1 forum. People saying KImi take the money from Ferrari and go to Mclaren so Hamilton can beat him. English fans are hopeless. If Kimi discovers his old form he will teach Hamilton a good lesson. Only JPM matched KImi when they were team mates after that Kimi lost form.


    unclekracker, Luca Badoer is doing promotional work and it is agreed by every team that his speed will not be more then 100 kilometers per hour. Yes why Renault will allow Fernando Alonso to go to Ferrari in the middle of the season? He will take points from Renault if that is allowed. Massa wants to come back before end of season i do not know if that is possible but if it happen then what will Alonso drive?

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    Well I certainly will not add him into the list of 14 August casualties because he got the protection equipment of top class while our wanna be are just putting in danger not only their life but others too and also feels sorry for those who lost life trying to do this stunt without any protection equipment even most of them never wear helmet which is essential for riding a bike. I just dont know why their families allowed to ride a bike without helmet.


    But I certainly put him in the list of racing show off idiots list which includes some real classics such as these:


    F3000 Showoff Idiot







    Yet so near Yet so far







    Vittorio Brambilla 1975 Austrian GP







    After his crash the pit to car radio was Vittorio, don't forget to pick up rubber...and the engine mounting...and the rear-suspension... )


    @Shehryaar


    Alonso only joins Ferrari in the mid season if and only if either Massa will not be available for the full season or Kimi is being forced to leave by paying off. Othewise it is not possible for Alonso to join Ferrari this season.
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    Renault welcomes overturned ban



    Renault has welcomed the FIA International Court of Appeal's decision to overturn its one-race suspension.



    Massa targets Brazilian GP comeback



    Felipe Massa is targeting a comeback at this year's Brazilian Grand Prix as he continues to make good progress in his recovery from the head injury he sustained in Hungary three weeks ago.



    Renault: Grosjean can succeed in F1



    Renault thinks it will take Romain Grosjean a bit of time to get fully up to speed in Formula 1, but team figures are convinced that he has what it takes to become a successful grand prix driver.



    Alonso confident of home success



    Fernando Alonso believes he can give his home fans something to cheer about this weekend as he sets his sights on fighting for a podium finish on the streets of Valencia.



    Force India brings upgrade to Valencia



    Force India is to introduce a major aerodynamic upgrade for this weekend's European Grand Prix as it bids to score its first points of the year.



    Badoer feels sorry for Schumacher



    Luca Badoer says he feels just as sorry for Michael Schumacher as he does for Felipe Massa as he finalises his preparations for a Formula 1 return in Valencia this weekend.



    Klien eyes race seat with BMW team



    BMW Sauber test driver Christian Klien has said he would like nothing more than to secure a race seat with his current team next year, as it bids to find a buyer to keep it in the sport.
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    Bjorn Wirdheim will forever be remembered for that fiasco, no matter what he does in life or achieves in racing. Wonder where he is these days. Nigel Mansell famously did something close to this at the Canadian GP in 1991, on his last lap with a big lead he was waving to the crowd and coming into the hairpin he is said to have accidentally knocked the engine switch off button and came to a stop a few meters after that.


    Wonder how
    Romain Grosjean will go in races. His confidence must be quite low after his crashes and mixed results so far. Before his first crash at Monaco, he looked every bit the part though. Hopefully it will not be another career that goes down the drain because of no self confidence and being team mate to Alonso. It would have been a daunting task at the best of times, but coming now with in-season testing ban, it will be twice as hard.




    Massa is making positives noises from Brazil which is good. Hope it is as good as people say. I remember Ralf Schumacher hitting the wall on the main straight at Indy and he wasn't allowed to race for a long time. His accident looked bad but his injuries were not even half as bad. The reason given by doctors at the time was that the brain moves inside the head and they cannot allow for a situation where it might happen again under such extreme conditions. Massa went into the tire wall at some speed and i suspect his situation is no different.




    @Shehryaar




    I take your point, it is a valid one, that Alonso will only take points of Renault even if they are not fighting each other directly, but it's all about money with an eye to the future. If Alonso is the future of Ferrari, they want him in the car as early as possible so they start working on the car together. Plus, if Alonso is making the move to Ferrari for 2010, under normal circumstances he would not be allowed to test the car till the 1st of Jan 2010. Similarly and more importantly for Renault, they would want Kubica as early as possible to be able to adopt their car to his driving style for next season. They don't want to spend another year languishing in the mid pack. But as Genius83 said, it all depends on how Massa recovers.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    @geenius83 and lefty aka beglar


    The best driver from Finland is on HER way. Watched a race last night and this girl was exceptional, driving through the field in the British F2 from something like 10th or 11th place and up into third place. Have a feeling the two of you would become die hard fans pretty soon. Hell, beglar may finally buy the BMW team for hee






    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Looks like Kimi with long hair in some pics but there is no action footage to pass comments on her capability also she likes ice cream so may be become the ice-woman just like Kimi the ice man.


    Now back to serious question although Michal is now out of question for next 3 or 4 races atleast but the time he set in Megullo test with F2007 with GP2 spec slicks was 0.6 secs faster then Massa's time in F60 around the circuit. I am a bit amazed that what conclusion we could draw from this that


    1) F2007 was faster then F60.


    2) F2007 was designed for grooves tires and the time was set on GP2 spec slicks while F60 was design for F1 spec slicks what happens if F2007 was allowed to used F1 spec slicks in the test.


    3) F2007 has TC present while F60 doesnot have TC does this effect the time by Massa in F60.


    4) Or it was just one lap where Michal has drove his heart out and then the neck pain starting to grow.


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    The above link will certainly help beglar for deciding whether to start a team or not.



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    Yeah, there is no footage available on you tube but that kid can drive. It's had enough to pass people at Silverstone as it is, they were driving the Silverstone short, but to do so in cars that are identical was very impressive. Beglar can take her under his wings and build a team around her maybe.


    I'd buy the Alfa Romeo on page three of the link, if i could. Also the two seater ones are tempting. They have Benetton but not the E194, that Rory Byrne described as the best car he ever designed or as some would say Schumacher was driving inferior cars through the 90's


    The testing times are interesting. Obviously the biggest factor would be the amount of down force these cars have lost this year. Had it not been for slick tires these cars would have been so much slower, and only now that we are more than half way through the season have the teams found ways to get that down force back. The second would be traction control. With that you basically turn a corner and floor it, traction control takes care of it all, well at least to a great extent. Now without it, drivers are extremely careful or else coming out of a corner the car would swap ends on them. Thirdly, we don't know what program Schumacher was running. Maybe he did a qualifying run, an out lap, a flying lap and an in lap. Lastly, Massa's time is from winter testing when the track temperature is never at the optimum. Still, anyway you look at it, it's quite an impressive time. To your question, what would happen if F2007 had slicks from this year, i think the F2007 would be something like 1.6 seconds faster per lap and not just 0.6. Remember, the F60 that Massa must have done his time on would have been without the DD diffuser at that time.
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