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    Default Do We Need An Auto Industry At All ?

    I would like to share views from my brothers if Pakistan need at all an Auto Industry.


    My personal opinion is that we Pakistanis be better off buying used but good quality cars from Europe, USA and Japan. In those markets, used cars depreciates alot and it would be highly beneficial for us to have those cars instead that we pay horendously high prices to local assemblers.


    Governments seem indifferent to the local assemblers price policy and car quality standards. Have a car safety tests on all the locally assembled cars smashing at 50km/h....and see the results. Such safety tests are a must for each and every model that goes out in the markets of Europe, USA and Japan etc. so why not Pakistanis be showed how safe are their livies on those wheels.


    With the abrupt increase in prices here in PAKISTAN, against the international recession is beyond my comprehension. Who is responsible require little guessing. Are we the richest nation in the world who are not bothered or do we have Governments comprised of richest people who are not bothered by the increase in price. Either one of the two is true ?


    And of course, what about Customer Protection Rights ????


    Do we have a fair competition....I mean is there a competitor to local asemblers ? No not really...it is a MONOPLISTIC market they have created for themselves.....good or bad.....you are bound to buy them at their prices.


    One of the reasons, why sancations are imposed on Pakistan textiles in Europe can be attributed to our refusal to allow their import of vehicles....India on the other hand.. are real smart guys,....they allow Europeans to set their plants in India and in return have captured almost all European market for various items...


    Pakistan desperately need to give a boom to their exports....this will bring much needed foreign exchange...not through begging for a few billion dollars....imagine only textiles can bring over 10billion dollars per annum....whereas today Pakistan is feeling proud on getting a mere pledge to get 5billion dollars from Japan...


    A Land bestowed with such resouces and Nation bestowed with such talent by Allah is begging to the entire world for aid......it is matter of concern.

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    @saadzae92
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    tottaly agree with u guys!
    FXXB and EJ8 on its way............

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    @naveed
    Exactly u gave the example of India.
    Their market is flourishing. Look at their City and Corolla they r much cheaper there, and they r with integrated cd player,audio controls on steering etc.
    That is what we should need. Our Cars should also provide us these features, and with less price which can be done by decreasing the duties and taxes.

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    Salaam @ all!

    Very bluntly, this is a ridiculous topic and idea. Why should we (or anyone) give up?

    We should instead inject more into the auto industry for development and research. We should spend more for higher quality parts and labor. We should hire smarter, more competent businessmen, managers and advisers.

    The government should gradually lower the taxes, in accordance with the trend of increasing quality and repute of the locally produced vehicles. A sudden removal of taxes will make people immediately shift towards foreign built products and not give Pakistani cars the initial boost.

    Once (after maybe 5 years) the local produce reaches adequate quality and stuff - the taxes should be done away with altogether, however maintaining tariffs for imported automobiles may be good to bolster our own troubled economy!

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    Well, you see, used cars from Japan makes sense, but from other countries.. I don't know if it would be a good idea. Its going to cost almost as much as a new one when its imported. Plus, used cars still aren't too expensive here, as well, no?

    Local assemblers too could keep on making these cars for those who can afford. I don't quite understand the point in shutting these guys down.
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    jinhoo nay baghair sochay samjhay AGREE kr lia....shame on them yaar....local industry is very imp for our economy,,,look at india they have local car industry thats y prices thr r much less.....pray 4 new industries here....Zaradari sahib ko SEEDHA rasta dikha...ameen
    Loose control]]shaka laka boom boooom

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    ^^^exactly^^^
    agreed!
    ALLAH usko sidha rasta dikhaye!
    FXXB and EJ8 on its way............

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    Just see what we have really missed putting the car industry prior to far more important projects. Our entire survival is actually based on the herebelow. You judge yourself now if the decision to assemble cars locally was in the best national interest when basics of our economy still struggling...infact now at the verge of extinct....should we still be considering to ride in new cars when actually we as a nation don't deserve to this luxuary todate....

    What Pakistan needs first:

    1. Dams alot many dams big as well as small to make water reserivors as well as electricity;
    2. Engineering industry from basic to heavy which would lead us to achieve excellence in many fields including alternative energy sources such as solar in particular....we have alot of sunshine....
    3. Agricultural development on scientific basis;

    One of the most unfortunate thing happened to Pakistan is the misallocation of resources, for instance, after 9/11 billion of foreign exchange come to Pakistan....instead of putting that to something useful, the then govt. put it on spending it on consumer items such as cars and credit cards....result that foreign exchage eventually fled back....without doing any good to our economy....
    Today each bank has a long list of defaulters both credit cards as well as cars..
    Car Industry of Pakistan cannot contribute anything in the development of Pakistan.......if you do not believe ....ok let them export their cars in the international market....let them compete to see where they stand....and also let us give us a choice to buy between imported used cars and the locally manufacturered ones....see who goes where.....and who wins .....

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    1) dams are built with money!
    and govt is taking laods of loans!
    and if we would have local industries!
    then no need to get bloody load of loans!
    so again we need industry to earn forigen exchange!
    2)agreed!
    3)agreed!
    rest!
    yup those steps were not good!
    i m also agree with rest of the facts in this post!
    but we are also critisizing to industrialist to promote their qualities!
    FXXB and EJ8 on its way............

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    i never have been and probably never will support the local mafia, they have never delivered high quality, safe cars which offer any form of value for money.

    by mafia i mean local suzuki, honda and toyota.

    I agree that we shoudl support ALL local industry in order to improve our country, but if they are sucking every penny from our pockets while offering us cars which are as safe as a wheelbarrow why do they deserve our help??

    give them 1 year to improve quality, lower prices and improve the safety & spec or they should NOT be helped and they deserve to fail.

    never blindly support anyone or anything. question everything.
    1. A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, 2. Resale wont save your life in an accident, 3. Genius has limits, stupidity has none, 4. Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level & beat you with experience, 5. Growing old beats the alternative -- dying young! 6. انّا للہ و انّا الیہ راجعون

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    ^^^i was waiting for ur post^^^
    FXXB and EJ8 on its way............

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    mod edit: please avoid nonsensical posts in a serious topic

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    mod edit: please avoid nonsensical posts in a serious topic
    FXXB and EJ8 on its way............

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    yes we do need the auto industry but we dont need the crupt ppl in the govt so the real benifit cud b transferred to the public.
    something fishy about number of total posts !!!!

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    thnxx for editing!
    @mods(y)
    FXXB and EJ8 on its way............

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    WEll its easy to sum this up
    As long as there is Desi mentality of GIVE NOTHING AND TAKE ALL MONEY we will see products like ADAM makes
    Our country cannot even handle a decent franchise like TOYOTA and HONDA what in the world would you need your own motor industry for ... Cars in pakistan are over priced low quality and under powered for crying out loud you will see better cars in Veitnam in same price...

    European countries even india supports their own brands like TATA but there is a reason behind it as TATA competes with international brands and even ROVER which is an international brand was using their car and selling it as CITY ROVER

    as long as LOOT MAR thinking will reside in the SAITH or MIAH industrialist of pakistan nothing can be done
    as According to the DESI BOOK OF BUSINESS MEN
    When you cant COMPETE BRIBE AWAY THE FORIGNER

    AND AS SOME ONE SAID ITS NOT FAULT OF INDUSTRIALIST i think people cannot do anything as they are exploited already enough
    Audi is like a disease once it gets in your blood there is no going back

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    BOTTOM LINE

    1. Let the import of used cars be allowed though financing must be made from abroad so that non of the foreign exchange be spent on the import of used cars. The importer must arrange the finance outside Pakistan.
    2. A reasonable duty be imposed which encourage the Europeans to bring their cars to Pakistan as well. We have not made a life time committment only with Japanese that generations to come will buy only their cars.
    3. Let the local Auto Assembler make their first flight... Unless they do not take the first flight they will never learn to fly. In a nutshell, let them face the competition so that they can improve. This spoonfeeding must now stop to this child who is already 20 years old.
    4. Trend of using Bicylces be established so that masses tend to adopt returning to simpllicity & health in life.
    5. Desperately need to improve our local transportation system.....it must be good enough that any office going can use it without putting at risk their expensive dress....A lot of attention should have been given to this sector atleast 25 years ago...however we developed an ugly culture of vans and horrible buses.
    6. Underground trains (tube) is the need of the hour atleast in Lahore and Karachi.
    7. Access of Driving licence be made difficult enough so that only the very good ones could pass it. From next year, no new token be issued unless everyone should re-pass their respective driving tests.. Someone from England be hired to take tests. This must include reverse parking test as well.
    8. Licence of all bus and van drivers be cancelled with immeidate effect....they must clear their respecive driving tests first.
    9. Pently for traffice voilataions be made strict and swift with no leniency to anyone.
    10. No provincial or national assembly member be allowed special plates or flags on their cars.
    11. Export of cars be allowed to fellow Muslim countries such as Saudia Arabia...

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    What will we buy from the US and from Europe with the exception of UK. Left hand drive cars, and gas guzzlers from the US? Not that i am in any way supporting this absured idea of not having a local auto industry, but if one is to go down that path why not buy cheap cars from China, Iran, Malaysia and dare i say India
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