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    @Rohan

    What I get from the discussion so far is Apachi RTR160 and Yamaha R15 are the two most loved bikes in India currently, so which one you would you say is the best

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    @ 2468

    What I get from the discussion so far is Apachi RTR160 and Yamaha R15 are the two most loved bikes in India currently, so which one you would you say is the best
    Actually the largest selling motorcycle in India is the 100cc Hero Honda Splendor, which is also the world's largest selling motorcycle.

    Among sporty motorcycles it is the Bajaj Pulsar which is the most popular model in India. TVS Apache and the Yamaha R15 have also become quite popular.
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    obviously is was talking about performance machines, otherwise Honda CD70 is the most loved bike in Pakistan, Hero Honda Splendor is called Honda CD100 in Pakistan and has not very good reputation amoung dealers and consumers.

    People who prefer performance mostly go for Honda CG125 and some go for Suzuki GS150 in Pakistan.

    So you mean Bajaj Pulsur 220 is most loved performance machine in India

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    @Rohan

    What I get from the discussion so far is Apachi RTR160 and Yamaha R15 are the two most loved bikes in India currently, so which one you would you say is the best
    Among these two Yamaha R-15 is true performance bike but Apache 160 is also among best in its class.Apache is 15.7 bhp 160cc bike with fuel injection only for Rs.68000.

    Hero Honda Splendor is called Honda CD100 in Pakistan and has not very good reputation amoung dealers and consumers.
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    CD100 is not popular in PAKISTAN because it was launched after Yamaha Junoon & Junoon is much better in looks, style, and performance.

    as well as Suzuki sprinter is also much better in performance than CD100 so in 100cc segment market is already captured by the Yamaha and Suzuki.

    Honda always failed in 100 cc class in PAKISTAN in the history.

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    Amazing yaar.Here Honda is leader of 100cc segment.Bajaj also has presence in 100cc segment with Platina but they are trying there best to shift the customers of 100cc to 125cc by launching new models at price/fuel efficiency of 100cc.

    P.S. - can you please give me specs of Suzuki GS-125/150 there website is not opening.THANKS:-)
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    The Pakistani bike industry is extremely reluctant to change at all. That is the reason they have not produced any new bike-shape, or for that matter improved upon the engine design/performance for years. Minor tweaks to the engine design can go a long way in enhancing performance of the bike on road. Similarly, a few plastic molding parts here and there can significantly enhance the body shape of the bike. I have always thought that, for example, Honda can make the fuel tank on its relatively 'bigger' local bikes a little curvy and make the overall shape of the bike sportier. But the fact of the matter is that the higher management of Honda Pakistan, etc, lack the energy and motivation to do such a thing. All we see every year or so are the new color-schemes of the stickers/graphics on the bikes and that is all.

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    The bike market used to be very dull in India till about a decade back. It was the Hero Honda CBZ that started the revolution/change of modern looking bikes in India.

    The CBZ was also India's first 150 cc, 4 Stroke bike. After that one by one other bike makers also started manufacturing 150 and above cc bikes with good looks and modern features like monoshock suspension, fuel injection, digital speedometers, micro processor controlled ignition etc.

    In 2008, Yamaha India launched India's most technologically advanced bike, the R15. The R15 has got liquid cooling, 4 valves per cylinder, fuel injection etc.

    The progress in Indian made bikes in terms of looks and advanced features has been slow and steady. It was the choice of the people in the end which made the manufacturers produce good looking and better bikes because Indian buyers were getting increasingly demanding.

    I am sure that if one bike maker in Pakistan can make one good looking bike with modern features and if the people of Pakistan starts buying such a modern bike, all the other makers would also start making better bikes.
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    I believe that Indian bikes like this can sell very well in Pakistan. It would also make the Japanese bike makers start making better looking bikes with modern features.


    125cc Bajaj Platina 125


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    TVS has recently launched a new Scooter for girls in India called the Scooty Streak


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    I have gone through all above but my openion is different

    If u look at a glance at indiaian motorcycle market then u have to looked into the following perameters

    1- Literecy rate (awareness) of the end users (Consumer bying behaviour)
    2- Political stability of the country (peace process)
    3- Economical stability (fuel and parts prices)
    4- Market size (customer base and R&D cost per unit)
    5- Customer needs and wants, conservative approach (appriciacian to new shapes and technologies)

    unfortunatily all experiments made by our local manufacturer are not successfull for exaple:

    First of all Pak Suzuki make a difference in 4stoke and 2 stroke bikes but people did not appriciate new looks and carburator technology (due to conservative approach, and mechanic driven customer)

    Secondly Dawood Yamaha launched YB100 cc excellence model(2troke bike) and flopped due to negative propoganda.

    again Dawood Yamaha launched Junoon 4stroke 100 cc a beutifull bike like Yamaha gladiator looks but flopped due to conservative approach of customers.

    after all above Atlas Honda launched a 125cc Delux model but not so much popular right now and it is also abeutifull model all the way

    and last but not the least Ravi Motorcycle (a local manufacturer & assembler) have launched very good model Ravi Piaggio Storm125 with the cplleboration of Piaggio italian brand and let see what happen with them

    so i think the driver of this market like motorcycle mechanics and specialists, expetrs are still pushing all the nation to buy old treditional and out dated 70 cc and 125cc models

    The need of time is to change the customer approach by doing local R&D according to the needs and wants of local customers not to follow others, like india because i think indian motorcycle market is totally different from china, Thiland, Bangladesh but not so far different from Pakistan

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    and last but not the least Ravi Motorcycle (a local manufacturer & assembler) have launched very good model Ravi Piaggio Storm125 with the cplleboration of Piaggio italian brand and let see what happen with them
    What is the market report of Storm-125?I think it was launched 6 months before.Am I right?

    Collaboration of Ravi-Piagio is the step in right direction.Local R&D and innovation/introduction of better local models will force international manufacturers to introduce new models.

    P.S. : What about Suzuki's website?I tried different browsers but its not opening
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    u can check the thread for the latest feed back of Ravi Piaggio Storm 125 according to my understanding product is right placement at right time

    suzuki motorcycles stie www.suzuki.com.pk has been closed due to the merger in Pak Suzuki (car company)

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    Thanks for info.
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    i hate india and all indian goods.we dont need to compare i think there should be no place of indian goods on pakwheels thanks
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    @RX115
    Ok u hate Indian its ur right to hate or love some one.
    but hamari kom ko josh ki aur Hosh ki dono ki zaroorat hey.
    agar kabootar billi ki taraf dekh kar ankhen band kar le ga to billi us ko kha jaey gi.

    so we have to improve our thinking we have to change our selves and then as a nation we will be more better and we will rule India we can do it but with logics facts and figs and by improving our products and by improving our national intrusts as well

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    yarr we shld nt discuss this,we all are frnds here.there are indian members also here and we shld giv respect to them.Our religion teaches us to respect others.
    We shld not be putting ourselves in this useless chat of ruling india etc.we are unable to rule our county,infact we are unable to rule a single district so we shld nt tlk abt ruling others.ppl will laugh at us.May Allah guide us the right path.Ameen.
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    so let the discussion strt
    i think indian bikes are over rated,well dressed but when it comes to engine pwr paki bikes are better.We are lacking behind only in the dressing.suzuki has taken a step introduced a 150cc and upto some extent has attrctd customers and no doubt its a good bike.honda 125deluxe is also a good bike with good dressing sense and satisfactory engine pwr.but yamaha man!!!!!!theve stickd to 100 cc deluxe this is the same shape cuming since centuries.i bet if yamaha introduces a bike in the 125cc class or 150cc class it will attrct a lot many customers.
    But ppl see our local manufacturers theve dun good.star,rocket theve introduced 100 cc bikes with sprty shapes but again with less engn pwr.
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