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    Hello guys i have a 2013 model 125 only 16k on the meter... Yesterday my bike was not starting so i went to the mechnic.. He checked the bike there was no pressure in the kick so he told me that i vl have to open the head to change the walls as they are fried thats y there is no pressure in kick...
    I wana ask why the walls are fried as i didnt got a reasonable answer from him.
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    So after opening the head it was found that carbon was there in the head due to which all this problem was created.. I wana ask that can i take out the euro system out by removing the head cover by putting the old 125 cover ? Will it effect anything? Bcz i dont want that carbon stuck in my bike again.. Pictures are for refferenceName:  ImageUploadedByPW Forums1456037206.308399.jpg
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    I don't see any reason of this as valve can only burn if the are combustion temperature get top high you should have experienced knocking issue too of combustion temperature was high you bike might have valve seals job done badly from factory

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    I don't see any reason of this as valve can only burn if the are combustion temperature get top high you should have experienced knocking issue too of combustion temperature was high you bike might have valve seals job done badly from factory
    Very slight knocking only when i drive it faster .. By Knocking i mean when im driving at hight speeds i leave the acceleration when i press the acceleration again at that time for 2 3 sec my bike hesitate to move ...!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    I don't see any reason of this as valve can only burn if the are combustion temperature get top high you should have experienced knocking issue too of combustion temperature was high you bike might have valve seals job done badly from factory
    What if i remove the euro system from my bike? Bcz head holes were full with carbon.. Valves were not fried at all.. There was carbon around them simply buffered them n all good to go.. Then cleaned the head too n opened the holes where carbon was present..


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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfkhan View Post
    What if i remove the euro system from my bike? Bcz head holes were full with carbon.. Valves were not fried at all.. There was carbon around them simply buffered them n all good to go.. Then cleaned the head too n opened the holes where carbon was present..


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    You use hioctane ? You can remove euro system if you want

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    You use hioctane ? You can remove euro system if you want
    No sir i dnt use hi octane i use normal petrol.. Can u tell me if i remove the head cap by old one it will be converted into old system but will it effect the engine? Bcz according to my knowledge i only know that there is only one thing that is the silver pipe over the cover that makes the euro 2 system but im confused about it.. Is there anyother thing which will be removed ? And will it effect anything if i remove it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfkhan View Post
    No sir i dnt use hi octane i use normal petrol.. Can u tell me if i remove the head cap by old one it will be converted into old system but will it effect the engine? Bcz according to my knowledge i only know that there is only one thing that is the silver pipe over the cover that makes the euro 2 system but im confused about it.. Is there anyother thing which will be removed ? And will it effect anything if i remove it?


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    That silver pipe goes to reed valve and will make reed valve non function if swapped with older model cover it will effect mileage a bit but I recommend don't play with your bike keep it stock

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    I think your bike's carb needs attention. What's your mileage?
    Engine is sucking fuel while coasting. Means petrol does not stop when you release the throttle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalhead View Post
    I think your bike's carb needs attention. What's your mileage?
    Engine is sucking fuel while coasting. Means petrol does not stop when you release the throttle.
    I am getting an average of 30 to 33km/ litter and my plug is also normal no signs of fuel not burning properly .. Wat my mechnic said was that euro system sucks the air back and then release it to the silencer thats y there was carbon found in ur head if it was a non euro bike all the carbon would have directly went out of the silencer..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
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    thora deedar to kara dein - ye wall kahan hain bike mein
    Sir sorry for my limited knowledge but im talking about the two rodes jo linked hoty hain spring ky sath tapit ky uper head open kr ky us ky back py aik bara valve hota hy aik chota size ka ab ap shaid samajh gy ho gy wat im talking about..
    N sir can you please tell me that can i replace the head cover with old cover to make it non euro bike? Will it effect anything else? Bcz there was alot of carbon in few holes of head plus that silver pipe of euro 2 tech which is on top of the head cover ..!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    walls?

    thora deedar to kara dein - ye wall kahan hain bike mein
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    Pic is for reference thats wat i was talking about.. There was carbon deposited on both of these rodes and few holes of head were blocked by carbon.. I just wana ask is it bcz of this that my bike is euro 2 thats y carbon was there in the head? How to convert euro 2 into simple non euro 2 so that i can stay calm as mostly i travel on bike on long routes i dnt wana stand in the middle of nowhere ..
    Thanx in advance for ur kind words


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    That bed sheet at the back looks exactly like mine.....oh wait a minute this is my pic as well..

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfkhan View Post
    Very slight knocking only when i drive it faster .. By Knocking i mean when im driving at hight speeds i leave the acceleration when i press the acceleration again at that time for 2 3 sec my bike hesitate to move ...!!


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    This is not knocking......i experience the same things at high speeds....2-3 secs hesitation...when throttle is closed and reopened at high speed......after getting everything checked i think it has something to do with timing....but since it only occurs at high speed and very slightly so i have left it as it is.....it's been an year now since head work....so don't worry about it...
    Btw: I have installed Euro 2 carb on my non euro as well....



    Plus you talking about removing the Euro 2 system......it can be removed but you have to change the insulator or intake manifold as well....cuz there is a pipe coming from ASV valve to the insulator and when the ASV system would be removed plugging that hole in the insulator is not good enough as it needs to be air tight.

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    So you would need to attach old model insulator as well....one which doesn't have opening for pipe...
    If you ride like there's no tomorrow, there won't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaudhary007 View Post
    That bed sheet at the back looks exactly like mine.....oh wait a minute this is my pic as well..

    Honda 125 walls fried? -1665805




    This is not knocking......i experience the same things at high speeds....2-3 secs hesitation...when throttle is closed and reopened at high speed......after getting everything checked i think it has something to do with timing....but since it only occurs at high speed and very slightly so i have left it as it is.....it's been an year now since head work....so don't worry about it...
    Btw: I have installed Euro 2 carb on my non euro as well....



    Plus you talking about removing the Euro 2 system......it can be removed but you have to change the insulator or intake manifold as well....cuz there is a pipe coming from ASV valve to the insulator and when the ASV system would be removed plugging that hole in the insulator is not good enough as it needs to be air tight.

    Honda 125 walls fried? -1665806

    So you would need to attach old model insulator as well....one which doesn't have opening for pipe...
    Lol yes bro pic was yours i was explaining wat i was talking about and thankyou for a detailed reply it explained all thanks again 👍🏻


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    Considering the fuel quality we have having carbon on valves or inside cylinder dome is normal....if there was a problem it's still there.....atleast it wan't the carbon.

    Are you using fuel filter ??

    If not attach a magnet and a kuppi wala fuel filter in series with each other between the carb and fuel cork and clean the carb for previous deposits....Carbon would be reduced to a great extent...
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    Honda 125 walls fried? -1665806

    I just wana ask that this insulator if i open it will my carborator setting be changed will my carborator opend after removing this insulator? N will it effect the milage if i remove the euro system?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaudhary007 View Post
    Considering the fuel quality we have having carbon on valves or inside cylinder dome is normal....if there was a problem it's still there.....atleast it wan't the carbon.

    Are you using fuel filter ??

    If not attach a magnet and a kuppi wala fuel filter in series with each other between the carb and fuel cork and clean the carb for previous deposits....Carbon would be reduced to a great extent...
    Its been resolved now but i was concerned about opening the head again as all the carbon will again b stored in the head.. I once used the fuel filter the one with the plastic bottle but it breaks after sometime 😕 being a cheap product wat can we expect from that so i removed it..


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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfkhan View Post

    I just wana ask that this insulator if i open it will my carborator setting be changed will my carborator opend after removing this insulator? N will it effect the milage if i remove the euro system?



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    Insulator can be changed without opening the carb.....it is attached by two ''8 number bolts with head on one side and two ''10 number nuts with the carb on the other.

    Like i said having carbon has nothing to do with your euro 2 system...carbon means bad fuel or maybe unburnt fuel.....my advice would be not to remove the euro 2 system....changing the insulator may lead to further problems so you never know........and finding genuine insulator of non-euro would be also hard as it is short.....and CRLF copies are being sold......
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfkhan View Post
    Sir sorry for my limited knowledge but im talking about the two rodes jo linked hoty hain spring ky sath tapit ky uper head open kr ky us ky back py aik bara valve hota hy aik chota size ka ab ap shaid samajh gy ho gy wat im talking about..
    N sir can you please tell me that can i replace the head cover with old cover to make it non euro bike? Will it effect anything else? Bcz there was alot of carbon in few holes of head plus that silver pipe of euro 2 tech which is on top of the head cover ..!!


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