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    Question Repetitive CV joint tear of Suzuki car.

    Dear brothers and sisters, I replaced both of my outer CV joints on my Suzuki car twice with original Japanese HDK CV joints and both the times the boots tore in after about two months of operation. I am very worried as I have spent Rs. 11000 just on my two pairs of CV joints. Both the boots failing on two occasions after such a short period of use is quite alarming. Please tell me why is this happening. I won't go for a third replacement until you brothers and sisters help me with a good piece of advice. @Xulfiqar please help. I am very worried. Thank you all.

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    please inform

    1 - what grease is being used
    2 - how much grease is being used
    3 - is the wheel alignment correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    please inform

    1 - what grease is being used
    2 - how much grease is being used
    3 - is the wheel alignment correct?
    Thank you so much for your reply @Xulfiqar Bhai.

    Here are the answers:

    1. The Kharadia used the grease which came with the original HDK kit.

    2. He emptied the two tubes for each boot, one tube going for one boot. I hope that is the quantity designated for each boot.

    3. The wheel alignment is okay.

    Please give me your input. Thanks.

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    sounds like a correct job.

    then the only 2 other points are that

    1 - he failed to remove air from the boots before clamping them down
    2 - the wheel alignment is bad causing the joints to overheat.
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    Could be the boots culprit? we have got tons of 2 number mal in Pakistan.

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    I faced the same problem multiple times. So, I also add a point that i read here earlier.

    Do not let car service person to spray oil or diesel after service.
    keep steering straight when you park the car.

    @Xulfiqar bhai
    How do i check if i have air trapped in CVJ boot?.

    As I recently put new CVJ boots with proper Liqui Moly 47 CVJ grease, approx 90-100 gm was applied each side.

    400 gm pack LM47 CVJ grease costs about 800rs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    sounds like a correct job.

    then the only 2 other points are that

    1 - he failed to remove air from the boots before clamping them down
    2 - the wheel alignment is bad causing the joints to overheat.
    Thanks a lot @Xulfiqar Bhai. I suppose he didn't remove air from the CV joint. My other question. Could he have stretched the boot long and clamped the clamps too tight which could have torn the boots please?

    Please do give me your input sir. Baree meharbanee sir.

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    yes - the boots need to be clamped in relaxed position when the axle is clamped in the vice, the air is removed by squeezing the boot so the grease gets distributed correctly.Once you are sure there is no air then clamp the boot

    clamps are of various types - the replacement "dalda teen dabba" clamps are useless - get the correct clamps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    yes - the boots need to be clamped in relaxed position when the axle is clamped in the vice, the air is removed by squeezing the boot so the grease gets distributed correctly.Once you are sure there is no air then clamp the boot

    clamps are of various types - the replacement "dalda teen dabba" clamps are useless - get the correct clamps.
    Thank you @Xulfiqar Bhahi. Please tell me what clamps are you talking about. Please tell me its name. Achay walay clamps ko kiya kehtay hain? Naam batain.

    Kit kay saath Dalday waala clamp hee aata hay aur main ny wohi dalwaya hy. Correct walay clamps ka naam batain. Please help. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axe.effect View Post
    Wa ji wa, internet chaa gayi hay. Now I understand it. Thank you very much @axe.effect bhai!

    Check out these two manufacturers:

    CV Joint UAE,Japan, Russia, KSA, Saudi Arabic, Middle East | Hight Quality Nuts - NKN

    C.V.JOINT?HDK CO.,LTD. | English

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    Are you talking about the screw clamps @Xulfiqar bhai?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slakr View Post
    Could be the boots culprit? we have got tons of 2 number mal in Pakistan.
    Muhy lagta hy sir k mujhy 2 number CV joints diyay gayay hain. Both failing at two occasions after about 2 months of installation is virtually impossible for a genuine CV joint. HDK 2 number aata hy @slakr bhai? NKN tau market main hy he nahin.

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    Seems like boots have air in them or grease is not proper.

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    I personally do not prefer to buy geniune or highest quality parts, as those parts are not available everywhere and have more fake copies, as their profit margin is higher. E.g. KYB shocks have 3 or 4 copies.

    I used sherry outer cv joints 2500 rs pair for khyber that is working awesome for the last 8 months. Boot tore after 8 months.

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    Actually I dont have that much knowledge like Xulfiqar and few but I had this car mehran 2011.. it was having axle sound , when I took it to the company they asked for 18k.Majority of the times the grease used in it and the boots are the culprit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari10 View Post
    Muhy lagta hy sir k mujhy 2 number CV joints diyay gayay hain. Both failing at two occasions after about 2 months of installation is virtually impossible for a genuine CV joint. HDK 2 number aata hy @slakr bhai? NKN tau market main hy he nahin.
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    I have seen zip ties come out of a boot kit instead of clamps
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    Knowing the exact point/spot of failure, along with close examination of the wound in CV joint boot helps in ascertaining the cause..
    An over tightened clamp would tear it at the binding place.
    A grease overloaded boot would rip open from the center.
    A misaligned boot usually gives up on the original folds in the boot.
    An external hanging object continuously touching the boot would damage it at any unusual point.
    and the list goes on.
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    Looks like a quality issue. Whenever I have had a ruptured boot in short time, it is due to rubbish rubber material.

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