Not at all who told you, bring any 1.8 car and reborn will smoke the shit out of it by giving a gap of three to four car lenghts and will keep on pulling away, driving a manual reborn is close to driving a sports car and has the best drivefeel out of all the locally made cars and nothing comes close , leave civicx 1.8 it stays neck to neck with civic turbo until the turbo kicks in which is obviously no argument as it has an advantage, reborn is the most powerful in its class nothing comes close to it period!