11th Gen Corolla (Hornet): An Unlucky Affair

[gitts070]

No transmission in Gli AT is different. It's made by Toyota Thailand. The one in Altis 1.6 is Aisin Made in Japan. Check the codes on the chassis plate in the trunk pls.

That's what am talking about but people here are trying to say that both are 4speed auto..
You didn't understand my point here, what I am saying is that 4speed auto doesn't mean that it's restricting the output of a certain engine.. Whether it's 2nzfe or 1zrfe.. Both the engine will produce the output according to the specs..
4speed auto doesn't mean that 1.6 will start performing like 1.3..
Cheers

[sk_020]

The most informative and sensible post in this thread so far which is based on facts. You just nailed it sir.

@fouadbakht @all

Consumers believe in value-for-money. Gives the manufacturer a chance to compete against themselves for greater good. The light at the end of the tunnel depicts R&D being delivered as a convenience to the end user. But what if there is none? Indus Motors has a strategic monopoly in its deliverance to common man. There is no competition. Those who will argue about Civic being a competitive model of vehicle against the Corolla iteration by Indus, need to revise their concepts after analyzing the situation at hand - it is a completely different consumer segment. What Atlas or its top hierarchy believes is of little concern to us and is occasionally laughed at in prominent circles with belittling jokes.

You see: We bought into the monopoly of Indus sometime back. We quickly recovered (Military). Honda was given a new lease at its life. Don't ask how.

Coming back to the point, the competition now feeds on differentiating nature of our society- just like spiritualism feeds on the purest of souls. The lack of adaptations between corolla variants renders it as a badge-name-game at best. IMC has previously been burned through their brains for using the recalled Drive Wire module from 1.3 Corolla. It was not a designated equipment for the ZR Controls. Yet they went through that in order to save their running costs.

If people on this thread want to tell a story about how a transaxle of perfect, bolt-on adaptability, not to mention the lack of accessorial needs for actuating the equipment on both motors, is differentiated without creating a drama projected towards the naive and gullible public, they are making a joke on ourselves. Let's not forget that, as consumers, we are Singular. Should we now start talking about how the NZE equipment is transplanted over to the ZR infrastructure causing understeer on the front end to be observed by nearly every individual who has ever had the bad-luck of owning the previous ZR equipped iteration? What many need to understand over at this thread is that they are absolutely right. We are just facing the wrong side of the highway. Look at your backs. It is no longer about how a bigger body shell may well be carried by a motor of significantly low displacement. If anything, we should be thanking indus for that. Found Sir did not make a right decision. That doesn't make everything else fancy and perfect.

Regards.

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[ibadaslam872]

All this time you were driving with Eurostars. . . .
What can you expect from them?
Its not justified to review a car, specially its road grip, when its on Eurostars.
In your review you proposed ContiComfortContact CC5 tyres as a cure. I am using them in my Gli MT 2015. They have excellent road grip.
However I would suggest you to go for CC5 Malaysian made as their treadwear rating is more than the German made. 360 vs 250

You mean to say that it's incorrect to review a car on Factory specs and factory stuff? Heck in that case, you can say that he should've swapped the suspension with a TRD one and then reviewed it. It's the consumer's choice, not a compulsion.

[InNoCeNt_DeViL]

And then I will be writing another review on the tyres? Yar bas na bachey ki jaan logey kia?

No , then you will enjoy the ride and drive hopefully ..
Review is not required

[speedster_101]

You mean to say that it's incorrect to review a car on Factory specs and factory stuff? Heck in that case, you can say that he should've swapped the suspension with a TRD one and then reviewed it. It's the consumer's choice, not a compulsion.

Changing tyres and swapping suspension is entirely a different thing. Next time you would be comparing tyre change with engine swap.
Tyres are considered consumables and they are changed every 2,3 years.
Yes, unfortunately Eurostars are stock (not a consumer's choice btw) but judging car's road grip while having such a hard tyre is not a wise thing. Plus, When a car is brand new, you need a small amount and 15 minutes to replace Eurostars with something better.

[umairzafar]

Even the indian version of corolla has the rear gap. I have also seen this gap in some of the indian reviews. Dont know if IMC or toyota japan ruined the basics of this car.

Source: New Toyota Corolla Altis Launch on May 27 - News

[hbokhari99]

Even the indian version of corolla has the rear gap. I have also seen this gap in some of the indian reviews. Dont know if IMC or toyota japan ruined the basics of this car.

Source: New Toyota Corolla Altis Launch on May 27 - News

is gap ki koi na koi zaroor waja hogi IMC k paas.

[KamranAslam]

Changing tyres and swapping suspension is entirely a different thing. Next time you would be comparing tyre change with engine swap.
Tyres are considered consumables and they are changed every 2,3 years.
Yes, unfortunately Eurostars are stock (not a consumer's choice btw) but judging car's road grip while having such a hard tyre is not a wise thing. Plus, When a car is brand new, you need a small amount and 15 minutes to replace Eurostars with something better.

^^^

hope @fouadbakht re-consider his thoughts for the HORNET and give her a chance to get settle in his family.

Friend get it registered, I know you are keeping it on hold because of the dislikes, its ZERO meter ride not a used-one for which one thinks again-and-again.

Keep her for some time, and get it change next year

Take it as a ARRANGE MARRIAGE scene

[fouadbakht]

Agreed Kamran Bhai. Thanks for those lines. I think I better slap on the Esport Spoiler tomorrow that cost me 8500/- with paint. Teri yad aie tere jane k baad aye Viper.

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[fouadbakht]

is gap ki koi na koi zaroor waja hogi IMC k paas.

The one and only reason for us third world countries.

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[fouadbakht]

Even the indian version of corolla has the rear gap. I have also seen this gap in some of the indian reviews. Dont know if IMC or toyota japan ruined the basics of this car.

Source: New Toyota Corolla Altis Launch on May 27 - News

It's IMC. Japan de ziyada chull IMC ko hui hai
IMC: Toyota bhai jan navee Corolla hor uchee banani aye, please approve.
Japan: but what about the stability and high COG etc etc
IMC: O Jaan deo bhai, no tension
Japan: But what about decrease in handling performance?
IMC: O sir tussi IMC di handling of awam and lobby wekho gadi di handling bhaar wich gaee
Japan: Okay as you wish

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[saboor73]

It's IMC. Japan de ziyada chull IMC ko hui hai
IMC: Toyota bhai jan navee Corolla hor uchee banani aye, please approve.
Japan: but what about the stability and high COG etc etc
IMC: O Jaan deo bhai, no tension
Japan: But what about decrease in handling performance?
IMC: O sir tussi IMC di handling of awam and lobby wekho gadi di handling bhaar wich gaee
Japan: Okay as you wish

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Sir you nailed it IMC ne corolla k bare chamatkar kiye hai (3idoit wale chamatkar;))

[fouadbakht]

Read this if you haven't before. Though related to the U.S. Market but holds good for us too. In fact we go two steps ahead in screwing it.

http://jalopnik.com/how-toyota-screwed-up-the-2014-toyota-corolla-1187863687

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[bilal49er]

You just nailed it with a 1" group.

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What is a 1" group. .?

[fouadbakht]

What is a 1" group. .?

Whose going to do the honors? Anyone?

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[bilal49er]

Not me..lol

[PlayMaker]

Reason behind the 'chull' of IMC.....

[zuhaibafzal]

Well, 10th gen corolla has lesser arch gap but still that model is good for our roads. But this new generation has more gap than 10th gen.

Kuch sharam hoti hai, kuch haya hoti hai.

[PlayMaker]

10th gen had a lot of complaints front bumper touching the bumps which is resolved in 11th gen. Arch gap may be related to that.

[Nabeel_Ali]

Read this if you haven't before. Though related to the U.S. Market but holds good for us too. In fact we go two steps ahead in screwing it.

http://jalopnik.com/how-toyota-screwed-up-the-2014-toyota-corolla-1187863687

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Fouadbakht bhai ye sub kertay hain. Even honda uses old gen parts in new one. Some people specifically target Toyota to malign it's sales because they have no other way around to beat Toyota.
For some reason Toyota is world's n.o 1 car manufacturer and Corolla has sold 40+ million units.
Yaha ki baat hi nahi ker raha because idher koi competition naam ki cheez hi nahi. Toyota outside is far more superior then what they are here due to IMC. I know because I had JDM Corolla Fielder which zillion times ahead then it's sibling PKDM 10th gen corolla, they shared the same e140 series platform but man fielder was just BOSS!!!