11th Generation Civic Owners/ FanClub Discussion Thread

[tech_wiz]

The car is bigger.

[pwuser163188954128]

Take Standard and enjoy it.

[pwuser163188954128]

MashAllah today usd is 214Rs... InshAllah soon will reach 200. Car companies prices reduce krein ge? Jis trh 1.5 million increase kia he 30% of car value... kya 5-6 lacks price reduce hogi atleast

[fastian04]

Government is preparing for more taxes as per some news. Allah khair hi keray

[pwuser163188954128]

Source?

[omaruser156370259465]

I really hope that is the case, just because of this huge recent price increase the used car market has gone crazy/mad. People demanding crazy prices for their so called bumper to bumper genyan cars.

[tech_wiz]

[pwuser151967054480]

Isn't much bigger and it looks sleeker and less heavy than x too. Side profile height seems lower as well. Something about this gen makes base and oriel look like how xli/GLI used to look like severely cut down cheap spec. In X even prefacelift oriel used to look proper even with the halogen lights and rs used to look a bit ricer like. In this gen only rs looks proper.

Also white and silver don't suit this gen at all while every color looked good in x. Good thing is I don't think anyone has bought rs in white or silver, have only seen them in black and grey which looks great.

[tech_wiz]

I booked RS in silver only because of easier maintenance. Couldn’t go with white (looks Panda to me). Been keeping a black car for more than 7 years now I am done with dark colors in our dusty environment. The romance is over.

As for XI, I didn’t say it is much bigger. Just bigger.

And wheelbase isn’t the only thing that is bigger. Not only is the body wider but the tyres are also pushed out (wider track) compared to X - this is as per official Honda specs. So when you factor in all that, the body looks bigger.

I won’t be surprised if the tyre arches are also bigger compared to X which also increase the effect of making those 16” looking smaller.

[fastian04]

Its bigger than cl9 per specs. But yes design makes it look more wider. X1 only in darker shades. Thanks to ppf werna poori life white per guzar gai

[adnan.shaukat]

samjha karen bhai , koi aisi news post na karen jis sey own/premium kam honey ka chance ho

[tech_wiz]

The way $ is coming down and hoping it stabilizes at a lower rate for reasonable time closer to REER, the car manufacturers’ will look pretty stupid if they keep the current prices out of greed.

[pwuser151967054480]

They have a long history of increasing when rupee depreciates and holding the price when rupee appreciates.

In last gov dollar cycles, this exact thing always happened and if after a cycle dollar again went back to its old value, prices again increased even though dollar was same as its old value. That's how car prices have gone up a lot more than they should've according to rupee depreciation and also localisation has increased which should've actually reduced the effects of dollar. Considering localisation we should've always gotten a less than 100% hit according to rupee value but we got a lot more than 100% hit.

Now it really depends on car sales, LCs and CKD kits. Car sales are definitely dropping, which didn't use to be the case before, increasing the pressure on the companies but if LCs and CKD kit import situation isn't resolved, by September most companies are expected to almost completely deplete their CKD inventory and in that case due to shortage, even a base model civic going for 10million isn't farfetched, even if dollar goes down to below 200.

[tech_wiz]

What has happened this time does not match their traditional history of death by a thousand cuts. There are simply no parallels to be found if you look at their past behavior in terms of % increase. Same goes for Dollar.

Selling Civic in 7+ million bracket indefinitely is simply not a sustainable model. If they don't correct it (forced by reduction in Dollar rate), the car will instantly become a low volume product over night just like Accord (to give an example). Except Accord is CBU, this is a local car.

To offset that, they will have to jack up the prices even higher. That requires major change in their fundamental operating model.

[fastian04]

very valid points but i think they are least concerned the number of units. They are trying to extract max profit from every single unit sold

[tech_wiz]

Every company tries to maximize profits. That's the order of business. But the problem occurs when they go overboard with it. When Dollar was going UP they had a valid justification at least. Now they don't and if they still keep the prices up, they will mess their own long term viability. At the end of the day these are Civic, Corollas, Sportages,etc. we are talking about, not Bugattis which are sold in low numbers with higher profit per unit (as a business model from ground up).

In the end, it's gonna be a domino effect when one of these manufacturer decreases, the rest will too.

[fastian04]

Yes true. I was discussing the same with owner of a Honda dealership and he said yar we revised prices as per usd at 200-205. If dollar goes under 200, then there can be wome reduction as last pricing was on usd at 184. He also mentioned a new mini budget is coming and taxes can further increase very soon.

As per his pov, if they speculated at 240 then prices would be actually 1 crore for civic lol

[tech_wiz]

Hard to believe that man.

Taking RS as a benchmark, it was launched at 61.5, then moved to 65, then to 66.5 and finally to 81.

Now take the Dollar rate (with buffer) at the time of 61.5 launch time and correlate it at those points in time of increases and keep atleast 5-10% buffer in it too as you see fit.

This last jump of 14.5 is based majorly on speculative dollar rates. Not much different to some clowns on social media who earlier claimed Pakistan was going to default in August thus adding fuel to the fire.

[harisworld13]

They will bring it down it might not be very attractive but since dollar pkr conversion is down all automakers claim and make dollar the reason for increment... What now almost 2 weeks its coming down

[fastian04]

Reduction should-be applied by all companies