11th Generation Civic Owners/ FanClub Discussion Thread

[fastian04]

Launching different models cover a bigger market. It's doing very well. Other than electric seats and airbags, nothing is missing wasay.

Haval is a rickshaw,,, will talk in 2-3 years if they survive here, Furthermore, sedan should be compared with a sedan right? We both know a sedan lover will never pay for a CSUV. i simply hate crossovers, but that could be just me.

Once you driver Civic, then u realize how superior it feels in driver vs Chinese and korean obselete junks

[waqasahmed03]

Haval rickshaw is selling crazy in australia at the moment. Even camry and accords have got a full blow due to these crossovers.

Globally things are changing. German car companies are having run of their lives and we are still defending a honda.

By the way, remember europeon 3310 or a blackberry; no? no problem.

[fastian04]

Well, thing is civic is selling very well globally. Everyone cannot have same taste. Australia and Pakistan are different. Saazgar rickshaw is risky to me unless company proves otherwise. Too much money to risk.. Civic sale ker ke kuch bhi lena is so easy...but mza phr nhn ata.

Car wo jo foran sale ho werna bekaar sir

[waqasahmed03]

You have a red civic bro. Thats a quick resale in Pakistan?

[fastian04]

Carnelian Red is pretty quick to sale. I had experience with 2018 oriel in the same color. it took us 1 week. Car sells on condition and it's market acceptance.

I can sell a Blue/Red/ Brown civic/ Corolla quickly than any white Sonata. That's a reality. White still holds the fastest resale value due to dealers etc. I always kept white but this time i wanted darker shade.

[darthvader]

Other than electric seats and airbags, nothing is missing wasay.

• Missing rear USB ports
• Missing tweeters
• Missing one half digital speedo
• Detuned engine (int markets have upgraded 1.5T engine)
• Cheap china infotainment vs. OEM unit
• Missing wireless charger
• Missing lumbar support
• Missing ventilated seats
• Missing 60/40 rear seat split
• Missing parking sensors

[awabsahb1]

Muskhil hoti he dif type of car ya odd coloured car sell krna pakistan me...

[fastian04]

[fastian04]

Not all things are available everywhere but you are pretty much right on some points not all sir

Phillipines has no rear usb
No key card
Malaysia has same meter
Wireless charger is missing in some regions including some us variants and asians as well
Lumbar support doesn't exist anywhere
Malaysia has single zone climate control

Nowhere in Asia we got sunroof (can't consider Bangladesh as they dont assemble)

Whp is 158 on dyno..similar to malysian dyno results available on internet. Again tune up is available plug n play....thanks to l15b

Considering Atlas saved money wherever they could, its still way more featured vs what others are offering. Pakistan market is always behind and is prone to cost cutting

On headunit i agree but then Pakistanis want videos and thats another museebat here.

[fastian04]

Couldn't turn off traction when i found empty road on both cars..will check after that as well.. tune up is in the plan wasay

[tech_wiz]

You can’t blindly compare RS with Touring trim in US.

There are features which are available in local RS and not in Touring top trim in US there.

Same goes for ASEAN countries. For example RS in Malaysia does not have Dual Zone climate control or Sunroof.

[nihilist]

For example?

[Spano]

me

really ? apki EDD sept thi ?

[tech_wiz]

Rear AC vents, Ambient lighting in doors and footwells, plastic covering on trunk hinges, interior cam, front cam, etc.

What people are doing here is that they are picking on exclusive features of every market, adding them up to create a hypothetical car in their mind (which doesn’t exist anywhere) and then compare it to local RS and criticize.

Is RS perfect? No. But its not end of the world either.

[Spano]

Guess like most of the people here don't like 11th Gen

[pwuser151967054480]

How much whp do oriel and base make on the Dyno?

[darthvader]

Touring trim in the US has an 8-way adjustable seat, I think that includes lumbar, unless I'm missing something.

The point is we've taken the worst of all regions. Ph. may not have rear USB, but they have an OEM unit with a 12 speaker system and full digital cluster. We have the least equipped Civic RS out of all regions.

The most unforgivable one is the detuned engine. All international variants I think come with the 240nm/180bhp engine. That's why the PKDM RS is slower than the older one, because they reused the same engine on a heavier car.

[fastian04]

I think there are groups for everyone...but dil sab ka yahiin lagta hai

[awabsahb1]

No bro was just asking. My edd is jan

[ali454]

No matter what you change if the platform is same it will behave more or less the same.

Obviously refinements are there but it will never behave like a completely new car over the previous one.

This is not a negative point though.