1948 1-1/2 liter Jaguar Saloon - Some Improvements

[MMYT]

Absolutely not. But what choice do I have? Just look at what this guy made for me. just look at the finish. Looks like a nursery kid made this. Important questions are how strong is the joint between the steel and rubber block? And how long before the rubber collapses.

Answer to both questions will come with time.

Abbasi sahib, the main problem with our locally produced rubber parts is their brittleness, for this reason many of us prefer bushes made of tire tread. Why can't we use it for this particular purpose?

[msabbasi]

Abbasi sahib, the main problem with our locally produced rubber parts is their brittleness, for this reason many of us prefer bushes made of tire tread. Why can't we use it for this particular purpose?

First, these are not bushes. Second, the tire is not 2 inches thick. Third, how can the tire be vulcanized to the steel back plate?. No screws or any other fastener can be used as they may puncture the axle tube when the car goes over a rut in the road.

Similar reasons for not using tire in place of an engine foundation.

You can get a better idea of this part's installation from the drawing below. It is item number 23 under the axle strap just left of the red arrow.

[msabbasi]

How did you end up in gawal mandi for that product? There are many other places that do much better work

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Heh Heh, I was sent there to a place called Rashid rubber store. There are supposed to do rubber castings. Surprisingly, in the Rawalpindi Gawal Mandi I have not seen any "gawalas", it is more like a mandi of auto and industrial related stores.

[msabbasi]

Fitted in the bump stop on the left side and took the car for a test drive on a known road. Bumps that would previously make a loud bang now were almost inaudible. Travelling at a decent speed (40-50 MPH) over the worst of the ruts were able to overcome the new rubber part. Of course this was a TEST drive, I would not normally go over bumps at such speeds:)

Here is a picture of the part installed.

You can see that with the car jacked up, the weight of the axle plus force of the spring is squishing the bump stop. Actually it is meant deform in this manner and cushion the axle as the suspension drops into ruts. Apologies for the out of focus picture. It is very hard to take this picture due to tight space. I think the car needs a bit of a wash underneath the chassis. It was last washed over 28 years ago :o. That will be an adventure I am sure.

Next will be the right side and Insha Allah that will mark the end of the rear suspension overhaul job.

[MMYT]

Fitted in the bump stop on the left side and took the car for a test drive on a known road. Bumps that would previously make a loud bang now were almost inaudible. Travelling at a decent speed (40-50 MPH) over the worst of the ruts were able to overcome the new rubber part. Of course this was a TEST drive, I would not normally go over bumps at such speeds:)

Here is a picture of the part installed.

You can see that with the car jacked up, the weight of the axle plus force of the spring is squishing the bump stop. Actually it is meant deform in this manner and cushion the axle as the suspension drops into ruts. Apologies for the out of focus picture. It is very hard to take this picture due to tight space. I think the car needs a bit of a wash underneath the chassis. It was last washed over 28 years ago :o. That will be an adventure I am sure.

Next will be the right side and Insha Allah that will mark the end of the rear suspension overhaul job.

Congratulations, Jag started taking Desi food at such a tender age; hopefully it will digest it too.

[syncview]

Heh Heh, I was sent there to a place called Rashid rubber store. There are supposed to do rubber castings. Surprisingly, in the Rawalpindi Gawal Mandi I have not seen any "gawalas", it is more like a mandi of auto and industrial related stores.

Oh so there is a gawal mandi in rawalpindi too I thought you got them made from Lahore

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[msabbasi]

Congratulations, Jag started taking Desi food at such a tender age; hopefully it will digest it too.

Nothing like good old daal-roti

[msabbasi]

Oh so there is a gawal mandi in rawalpindi too I thought you got them made from Lahore

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I was wondering why you asked me if I came to Lahore. Now the penny drops Yes there is a Gawal Mandi here in Pindi. Mostly dealing with automotive and hardware.

[yasirsa]

abassi sab tell me if insulation tape is avilable there i wanted to cover exhaust pipes . i mean heatproof

I was wondering why you asked me if I came to Lahore. Now the penny drops Yes there is a Gawal Mandi here in Pindi. Mostly dealing with automotive and hardware.

[msabbasi]

Today I was able to complete installing the right side bump stop block. This marks the completion of the rear suspension overhaul job. Next job will be to complete the spare wheel and its tray. The tray had some dents in it. These were removed and it was painted and fitted back. The spare tire had hardened and cracked. My father fitted this set sometime in the mid 70’s.

The tire size is 5.5X18. This size tire is not available in Pakistan (like a thick bike tire). I had imported a set of 5 tires and tubes some time back. Four tires were fitted during the restoration done earlier and now it is the turn of the spare wheel to get a new tire. Yesterday the old tire was removed and replaced with a new one. The plan is to prep the wire wheel, paint it and fit it in its proper place under the boot floor. One thing I noticed when I took the spare out for the suspension job was that it was full of dust. The spare wheel tray is not a sealed space and receives dust kicked up by the rear tires. I have decided to make a tire cover for the spare. Something like the one on the Suzuki Potohar. Something on these lines, but in my case the wheel is horizontal:

[faisalayub]

Abbasi bhai you can go for these styles of wheel covers...

[yasirsa]

What about Japanese spare tire with yellow rim they are thin too

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[msabbasi]

Abbasi bhai you can go for these styles of wheel covers...

Thank for submitting these very nice options. To give more of an idea of what the wheel looks like and how it fits, see the picture in post# 54. The acual pictures of the same area of the car appear below. Here is a picture of the wheel, It is a pain to clean inside the spokes especially around the part of the hub nearest to the brake drum:

The spare wheel locker open:

Close up of the space. You can see the dust from just two or three trips to road test the car. Imagine after a few months :o!!

So I think just a simple cover will do just fine. It does not have to be too fancy as it is not seen unless the cover is opened to take the tire out or check the air.

[msabbasi]

What about Japanese spare tire with yellow rim they are thin too

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Do you mean a space saver? like this?

On my car the wheels are secured to the hub via the chrome spinner at the centre of the wheel. There are no conventional nuts to fix the wheel to the hub so only and only this type of wheel will fit unless I totally modify the car.

[capsat]

abbasi saheb would you please post picture of spare tyre inside out. also please locate another member mohsinikram over the forum VCCCP thread send him an email he may be able to offer you help to bring smile on your face, am sure,

[msabbasi]

abbasi saheb would you please post picture of spare tyre inside out. also please locate another member mohsinikram over the forum VCCCP thread send him an email he may be able to offer you help to bring smile on your face, am sure,

Mohsin Ikram is well know to me and very distantly related. He had a general look at the car when the VCCCP came over to Islamabad during the 2013 Pakwheels show.

Sorry can't get the wheel in the car just yet as I am working on it. Maybe in a few days after the paint job plus need to take the wheel to the poshish walla to get him to make me the tire cover. If you see post# 54 on page 3 in this thread, it has a scan from the owner's manual showing the wheel in its place. By the way I like your signature.

[capsat]

abbasi saheb i mean to see the wheel only if u can snap spare wheel on floor, from both sides & post please at your convenience, & thank you !

[msabbasi]

abbasi saheb i mean to see the wheel only if u can snap spare wheel on floor, from both sides & post please at your convenience, & thank you !

Sorry Apologies for misunderstanding :S. Certainly pictures of the wheel lying on the floor can be done. Here they are.

There is a lot of cleaning to do, especially at both ends of the spokes. That's years of hardened muck. Can't paint until the base is clean. As you can see there are no bolt holes. The centre hub has splines that transfer the power from the hub to the wheel. The chrome spinner's job is to centralise the wheel while holding to the hub. This type of wheels corrctly called "knock off wore wheels". They were fairly popular up to the mid 70's especially on British cars. Nothing special at all. Here is a picture of a 1969 MGC with wire wheels:

But for now, all work has to be stopped due to family commitments.

[faisalayub]

Abbasi bhai there is one more idea, you can do one thing go to any poshish wala and told him to make a complete wheel cover, in which from top side make a zipper at the edge all around. Due to zipper it will be easy to take wheel out from the cover also.

For reference..

I can imagine how much dust accumulate in spare wheel area. I have same problem in my Cressida, even its wheel is inside Trunk, but too much dust accumulates after some time in both spare wheel area and Trunk due to one seal which is under carriage and its impossible to access that area just for seal due to Fuel tank...

[msabbasi]

Abbasi bhai there is one more idea, you can do one thing go to any poshish wala and told him to make a complete wheel cover, in which from top side make a zipper at the edge all around. Due to zipper it will be easy to take wheel out from the cover also.

For reference..

I can imagine how much dust accumulate in spare wheel area. I have same problem in my Cressida, even its wheel is inside Trunk, but too much dust accumulates after some time in both spare wheel area and Trunk due to one seal which is under carriage and its impossible to access that area just for seal due to Fuel tank...

Faisal Sb. that is a very nice cover. I'll see if my poshish walla can do this design.