Thanks a lot everyone. And yes I've done a 3sgte as well. As for the ecu guy why didnt you do it in the first place??. I can sort out my schematic data and come up with a better board controller. Look stop catching in fame by jumping in between and praising urself.If I had the time and money to experiment I would've done it a long time ago. You should've done it urself earlier now you can't do anything about it. Starting an engine without a gearbox and no rolling resistance is the easiest thing in the world. People in shershah and shoba do it everyday. I'm not a tech geek or an engineering nerd geez I didnt even take physics in A-levels but I can use my brain. I'm the first person in pakistan to do it SUCCESSFULLY on a 4e and 3s. Doing it on a 4efte is a rare thing in the world. As for the stand alone costs. An emanage (still a piggyback) costs 70K. Power fc 1lac. AEM EMS V4(that isn't plug n play as well) 90k or so. Zubair under rated the cost he didnt include the cost for the ecu,3/4 bar map sensor and a tune off course. But still its way less then the cost of an emanage and yet standalone as well.