8th Gen Civic "Viper"

[fouadbakht]

nice purchase bhai. How many keys do u get in total?how will they program it?will it func as an immoboliser or just as a lock unlock switch?if wil be immoboliser dnt u think u req min 2 keys as ur other keys would become reduntant (or just used for trunk+door opening) n if u misplace/lose ur key with chip then its gonna be a big time problemo.had such a bad experience with ordinary steelmate security sys.1 was misplaced by kids,the bty of the spare remote died.cod open doors but not start it.was a big hassle. So 1 shold b prepared 4 such eventualities.

In the preliminary introduction, what I have been told is that this key already contains the chip and is without code yet. It will be programmed by the Honda technician/engineer as per the ECU of Viper (Its not that the ECU will be adjusted to the new key). So in a way I just bought myself a fourth key in addition to the three I already have. Its just like a new PC with formatted Hard Drive and you wanna install the Operating System on it. So no issues of alterations or screw-ups.
The second step will be to acquire the motors to equip the side mirrors which would fold and unfold with the lock/unlock operation. ECU is a very complex technical component and generally they are manufactured the same for most of the countries in the same region. Its just that the company locks up some features for certain reasons in different countries. This option, I was told, is already there in the ECU but only has to be unlocked. Cheers. Btw the chip in the key will be then correctly recognised by the Immobilizer.

Just imagine if Cruise Control can be installed by Zunny (The Maestro) then what else is left. Its all upon our imaginations now.

[fouadbakht]

Oye teray ki ....!!!!

... so Viper will be lip syncing only :D:D:D

Sir Lip Syching main paisey nahin lagtey na.

[khurram_aziz]

I had this intuition that there is something built-in. I am sure that recently buzzed "ECO METER" thing is also there. As FK2's cluster has it; managing two different ECU and their operating system etc is not feasible!

The second step will be to acquire the motors to equip the side mirrors which would fold and unfold with the lock/unlock operation. ECU is a very complex technical component and generally they are manufactured the same for most of the countries in the same region. Its just that the company locks up some features for certain reasons in different countries. This option, I was told, is already there in the ECU but only has to be unlocked. Cheers.

Good luck Fouad Bh; I will be right behind you

[fouadbakht]

hi guys can i install this in 2k5 civic aka eagle eyes and also does this key comes with immoblizer set or just a key and besides the keyless entery what eles dose it do does it oprates the same way as other securty alarams i mean can the car be started when locked by this key and start by other ...

Sir, this key will not at all work on the previous model "Eagle Eye" even the Oriel Grade. Just confirmed from Honda 3S. I wish it could, we would have loved to count you in for the job.

[khurram_aziz]

Any plans for sound deadening while installing these?

Front. I had the option of getting the components but don't really know why I cant stand those small tweeter sticking out of somewhere or sitting on the dashboard. Well, that's the issue with me. But being recommended by Sardar Saeed first and reading numerous reviews on the web, I finally decided for these. I'll be getting these installed today insah Allah alongwith the wiring layout for the amp and subwoofer. Let's see. Stay tuned. Oh and by the way check out the Immobilizer Key.

Please share specs and why its being choosen over more popular brands?

Diamond Audio D600.4

[fouadbakht]

Any plans for sound deadening while installing these?

Please share specs and why its being choosen over more popular brands?

Khurram bhai, sound deadening/insulation has now become all the more important. It was an old dream when I used to have a Cultus the Corolla to deaden the sound but would be lazy enough to leave the cars as they were. Stay tuned till evening insha Allah.............

[khurram_aziz]

Great going sir jee
Should we expect the sytem playing tomorrow @ KK GTG?

[zunny]

In the preliminary introduction, what I have been told is that this key already contains the chip and is without code yet. It will be programmed by the Honda technician/engineer as per the ECU of Viper (Its not that the ECU will be adjusted to the new key). So in a way I just bought myself a fourth key in addition to the three I already have. Its just like a new PC with formatted Hard Drive and you wanna install the Operating System on it. So no issues of alterations or screw-ups.
The second step will be to acquire the motors to equip the side mirrors which would fold and unfold with the lock/unlock operation. ECU is a very complex technical component and generally they are manufactured the same for most of the countries in the same region. Its just that the company locks up some features for certain reasons in different countries. This option, I was told, is already there in the ECU but only has to be unlocked. Cheers. Btw the chip in the key will be then correctly recognised by the Immobilizer.

Just imagine if Cruise Control can be installed by Zunny (The Maestro) then what else is left. Its all upon our imaginations now.

sir as per my knowledge if ur ECU is progarammed once for immoboliser then the other 3 keys wont work.as in oriel if u get a key cut of same pattern but no chip,it wont work.the i.vtec either has the immoboliser built in n ur new 4th key with lock/unlock will be programmed with ecu. 2nd if i.vtec doesnt have the immoboliser n this new key n ecu will be progm then ur other 3 wont start the engine . The 3rd would be that the honda ppl wod just be activating the lock/unlock n no immoboliser wod be there. Now i think khurramaziz who recently got his done can shed more light.

[zunny]

got the answer from honda site. ALL CIVIC TRIMS I.E IVTEC AND ORIEL Both have built in immobolisers! The keys of ivtec have the chip built in. So fouad bhai YES This will be ur fourth key! You will be able to start with the rest. The key u just bought will have to be progm with the ECU n for remote opening/closing of doors. So another doubt cleared all 8th gen civics in Pakistan have built in immobolisers n not just Oriels. no wonder i was doubtful as theres an immoboliser sticker on the driver door glass i saw also on a ivtec.

[fouadbakht]

got the answer from honda site. ALL CIVIC TRIMS I.E IVTEC AND ORIEL Both have built in immobolisers! The keys of ivtec have the chip built in. So fouad bhai YES This will be ur fourth key! You will be able to start with the rest. The key u just bought will have to be progm with the ECU n for remote opening/closing of doors. So another doubt cleared all 8th gen civics in Pakistan have built in immobolisers n not just Oriels. no wonder i was doubtful as theres an immoboliser sticker on the driver door glass i saw also on a ivtec.

Abey yar, merey tu "earth" kar diyeh thay for some time. Scared the sh** outa me

[fouadbakht]

Great going sir jee
Should we expect the sytem playing tomorrow @ KK GTG?

I'm trying to pull away from being sucked into this whirlpool

[fouadbakht]

Great going sir jee
Should we expect the sytem playing tomorrow @ KK GTG?

Sir Viper cannot compete in sound department with Laadli and others. Its sound has become loud yet clearer. One doesn't get bored while listening to the sytem. Alhamdulillah I'm very much satisfied with the SQ setup that includes Sony Xplod Eclosed Subwoofer and the great Focals.

[zunny]

I'm trying to pull away from being sucked into this whirlpool

its quite difficult to stay away 4rm such a whirlpool!

[fouadbakht]

Yar zunny, a problem occurred I just noticed while coming back from Installation. The driver side AUTO Mode for window is not working although its fine manually.

[zunny]

Abey yar, merey tu "earth" kar diyeh thay for some time. Scared the sh** outa me

c now u'll b satisfied u have 4 keys n ur car has an inbuilt immoboliser! Slp with a little more sukoon that u already have a safety feature!

[zunny]

Yar zunny, a problem occurred I just noticed while coming back from Installation. The driver side AUTO Mode for window is not working although its fine manually.

sir instalation of what?spkrs?or retratable mirrors? As far as auto mode of window is concerned its a birth defect in this model! Reqs some lubrication. Any silicone based
spray sprayed in the window sills should solve the prob. Some use wd 40 aswell but its debatable as others say is causes corrosion of rubber parts.

[khurram_aziz]

There are immobilizers that scan the key "chip" (like sim cards); but its not in PKDM Civic atleast. There is no "chip" or anything in the "key" itself...I dont know this for sure; but this is my understanding.

The Immobilizer is there in all trims; but it works like thumb recognition system. The immobilizer "scan" and "verifies" the signature of key by its cuts. My brother asked the same question why they need to re-program immobilizer. I once worked on "hand punch" based attendance system. The device scan the lengths of each finger and it has slots that over the time get losed (its natural) and when the device is serviced the slots get reset and it has option to "reset". Basically machine stores the day 0 lengths of fingers and over the time when slots get lose it re-caliberate itself and when its servied we need to tell that forget about auto-recaliberated values and start using day 0 values. I think re-programming immobilizer is sort of same process. I havnt yet got the key and I was given 2 weeks time. Will share the details.

[lovesleeping]

Yar zunny, a problem occurred I just noticed while coming back from Installation. The driver side AUTO Mode for window is not working although its fine manually.

sir this is a common problem in 8 gen civic only thing we can do is apply wd 40 on it

[zunny]

There are immobilizers that scan the key "chip" (like sim cards); but its not in PKDM Civic atleast. There is no "chip" or anything in the "key" itself...I dont know this for sure; but this is my understanding.

The Immobilizer is there in all trims; but it works like thumb recognition system. The immobilizer "scan" and "verifies" the signature of key by its cuts. My brother asked the same question why they need to re-program immobilizer. I once worked on "hand punch" based attendance system. The device scan the lengths of each finger and it has slots that over the time get losed (its natural) and when the device is serviced the slots get reset and it has option to "reset". Basically machine stores the day 0 lengths of fingers and over the time when slots get lose it re-caliberate itself and when its servied we need to tell that forget about auto-recaliberated values and start using day 0 values. I think re-programming immobilizer is sort of same process. I havnt yet got the key and I was given 2 weeks time. Will share the details.

bro try covering the plastic part of the key with foil n then try starting the car.it wont start! Its coz of the chip. I think suzuki were giving immobolisers with late model balenos or lianas also. Im pretty sure keys have the chip. When ur new key comes open it up n remove electricals in the key fob. Insert it in ignition n rotate.it shodnt start.

[airomerix]

My 2007 had that problem even after replacing the channel 3 times. But 2010 one is safe till now. Now i doubt it!