well at least i have not been able to find ANY gud plaz 04 for 6 50. all those which i saw were in poor shape. the one in the pic in this forum is ABSOLUTELY immaculate in condition. as far as a gud civic is concerned, in the recent forums here, ppl are selling their 2000 model civics, run 80,000 km or more for t lac PLUS. so if there is someone who says that a civic run for 1,00,000 km here on Pakistani roads, that too a pakistan assembled car is better than a car run 17k km in japanese roads with proper maintenance records, well......sorry to say but i dont agree with him. moreover, civic and platz are two different class cars. platz is 1.5 times as fuel economical than a civic. correct me if i m wrong