Alto 660cc Average Problem

[kamranisaagar]

I replaced ATF oil around 7-8k kms back. its a 2008 model and I use PSO/total's full synthetic oil (I suppose its 5w-30) and the oil is maintained on regular basis 3000kms). It is a 2 wheel drive car.

I'm not sure if a 660cc engine should give on 10-11km/litre? Given the traffic conditions are not bad in islamabad and the car is driven in efficient manner.

I havent got fuel filter changed because it is perhaps not available in islamabad and the mechanic didnt recommend it. Any suggestions?

[kamranisaagar]

Any update guys?

[huzaifa.haroon]

The car should go to 12 with A/C and 16 without A/C , whats the status of Airbags ? Why change fuel filter ? Its not required but available everywhere! Check air filter

Treat others the way you want to be treated

[shahg]

sell this 660cc u will never get good average from this tiny car despite every work i sold out mine ek wagon and now free of mind these are bakwas 660cc until manual which have slightly better avg but still not to the mark

[huzaifa.haroon]

sell this 660cc u will never get good average from this tiny car despite every work i sold out mine ek wagon and now free of mind these are bakwas 660cc until manual which have slightly better avg but still not to the mark

Manual s ard not slightly better but way better , i have a pino 3A/T max avg with A/C 16 - Normally 15 km/l and mira 2012 manual Always with A/C hard foot or soft (Lowest ) is 17km/l else 19 km/l

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[kamranisaagar]

Thanks guys, can you tell me any place in islamabad/rwp where I can get a original/satisfactory fuel filter for alto 660cc?
I'm still confused as to why there is not much of a difference in fuel average in 660cc cars vs 1300/1500cc efi cars!

P.S: i'm not sure status of airbags? do they have to do anything with average?

[msabbasi]

If your car has a catlytic converter, has it been checked for choking? A chocked converted will require your enging to work harder (burn more fuel) to do the same job:(. Internet says the 660cc Suzuki Alto should do about 15km/l in the city, but blogs of owners say is more like 10-11km/l in the city.

[kamranisaagar]

Okay, ill ask the mechanic to check for catlytic converter, maybe thats the issue.

[wasay_ahmed]

dont bug the catalytic converter tgts useless thing to do will convert ut car into rickshaw only.
baki which check spark plugs and only go for oem recomended spark plugs

[mfa6464]

Average also depend on driving style. hard foot will give less mileage

[capsat]

what do you expect from a 660 CC auto transmission CAR with an air-conditioner? with 4 adults in the vehicle it shall drop to 7 -9 km/litre> have some mercy over the 660 Kei class 4 wheel vehicle please, do not expect Motorbike average of 15 - 20 km/litre from a hatch back passenger vehicle

Hi guys,
I am based in Islamabad and have 660cc alto (auto transmission), the problem is it is giving really poor average... almost 10-11km/litre with AC on in city drive. We don't encounter any traffic jams normally, and drive is smooth too... Do you suggest any mechanic in Islamabad who can tune it up and enhance the fuel average?

I had a tunning done from F-10, the mechanic had few sensors attached to machine and he checked exhaust and engine of the car, performed some tune up and said car is fine. but still I dont see any change in fuel average.

Please suggest.

[kamranisaagar]

I expect a bit more from a 660cc as compare to what I am getting from a 1500cc. I'm not a technical guy, just trying to understand why a 660cc has same 10kmpl average and a 1500cc as well! Kei cars are boasted for their fuel efficiency, i'm just trying to connect the dots. I do understand the concept of engine capacity and load, therefore there won't be much difference in highway average... But I fail to understand the reasons behind such low average within city.

Thanks.

what do you expect from a 660 CC auto transmission CAR with an air-conditioner? with 4 adults in the vehicle it shall drop to 7 -9 km/litre> have some mercy over the 660 Kei class 4 wheel vehicle please, do not expect Motorbike average of 15 - 20 km/litre from a hatch back passenger vehicle

[capsat]

ever seen on discovery / national geographic channel, an elephant dragging wooden log pushing it into water stream for reaching point a to point b. why horses & mules are not used for this kind of job . while in reality both are used as cargo / wagon pullers.

apply that on KEI class

the physical weight & dimensions of car plus the wheel size, the "environment" & road conditions will seriously dent your expectations of 15 km/litre.

[kamranisaagar]

Correct. But that example applies when you are moving on the highway. KEI cars will have to push more as compare to a 1500cc sedan, resulting same average on highway. But within city... ideally, a small engine should be less hungry. Consider this, when you are stopped over the signal, to keep engine alive which will consume less fuel, a 660 or 1500?

ever seen on discovery / national geographic channel, an elephant dragging wooden log pushing it into water stream for reaching point a to point b. why horses & mules are not used for this kind of job . while in reality both are used as cargo / wagon pullers.

apply that on KEI class

the physical weight & dimensions of car plus the wheel size, the "environment" & road conditions will seriously dent your expectations of 15 km/litre.

[capsat]

do you really believe that a KEI 660 will take same time between Lahore & Pindi over motorway with 4 adults as a 1.3 sedan & consume less fuel ?

[Xulfiqar]

Correct. But that example applies when you are moving on the highway. KEI cars will have to push more as compare to a 1500cc sedan, resulting same average on highway. But within city... ideally, a small engine should be less hungry. Consider this, when you are stopped over the signal, to keep engine alive which will consume less fuel, a 660 or 1500?

your kei car will do wonders if you drive it at 1200 rpm - which means 40 km/h in top gear all day long. These cars were not meant for "super fuel efficiency - they are meant to cater to a specific tax bracket.

let me give you a simple example.

I have a 3.2 litre engine car - the car weighs a lot more than your kei - by your rationale it should consume twice the fuel of a 1.6 litre engine, (sola dunee batees) - while infact it does not. converting to km/lit I get about 10.5 km/lit (25 mpg)

odd isnt it?

[Xulfiqar]

do you really believe that a KEI 660 will take same time between Lahore & Pindi over motorway with 4 adults as a 1.3 sedan & consume less fuel ?

Been there done that.

adults = me + 3 others.

all large built people (people who have seen me know my size) - by the end of the journey, we were ticked off, tired and the car was about to fall apart (literally overheated the turbo) - a tiny turbo cannot stand a highway run unless its a VNT turbo.

[capsat]

Been there done that.

adults = me + 3 others.

all large built people (people who have seen me know my size) - by the end of the journey, we were ticked off, tired and the car was about to fall apart (literally overheated the turbo) - a tiny turbo cannot stand a highway run unless its a VNT turbo.

Damn Moi ! You placed high bet i can carefully assume you are 6+ with broad frame & approx 110+kgs [ at that time like afzal said we use to call him Kong baba - i mean no disrespect at all ],

KEI class with 4 grown up adults it is like loading 2 40 kg drums full of milk with measuring accessories & 5 kg empty bucket over a Honda 50 [ automatic clutchless ]

[Xulfiqar]

Damn Moi ! You placed high bet i can carefully assume you are 6+ with broad frame & approx 110+kgs [ at that time like afzal said we use to call him Kong baba - i mean no disrespect at all ],

KEI class with 4 grown up adults it is like loading 2 40 kg drums full of milk with measuring accessories & 5 kg empty bucket over a Honda 50 [ automatic clutchless ]

Im about 6'5" and weigh nearly 290 lbs - a bit overweight for sure. - all the guys in the kei car were this same size. - lol kong baba

you have seen the pics of my daughter when she was newborn, she literally fit into my hands.

[imrananr]

There is nothing as Tune-up of a vehicle with EFI or Direct fuel injection.
The term tune-up was with vehicles using carburettor for fuel mixture preparation.
With Direct fuel injection or EFI fuel system, a defective sensor or other related part malfunction can cause excessive fuel consumption.
Also, a higher viscosity grade motor oil than recommended may decrease the fuel efficiency.
Today modern cars generally require 5w30, 10w30, 0w40 or 5w40 viscosity grade motor oils.