Another SCAM: The "CNG Hybrid System"

[syncview]

Mr.syncview! Maza lana bund karo or kaam ke baat karo .... jub aap nay kaha chemical formulation batao to aub kud bhe kuch karloo sub kuch plat may chiay or newala bhe bana bana ka do kay ?
Bus bhe ........! kafe paka nahe leyha ?
bahe koe positive baat ha yha koe bhe jis say sub ko fidha ho us chiz ko positive lana chaiy na kay negative comments shorow kar do......actually negative is much easier then be positive .....That what i think ...anyhow Again No heart feeling .....every one cool ...okay take care .......have a nice day ...i am off from this discussion......

Yeh jo aapne btaya tha woh formulation tha?

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[drift222]

...anyhow Again No heart feeling .....every one cool ...okay take care .......have a nice day ...i am off from this discussion......

smart man please answer my queries before leaving

where did u get ur car painted/wrapped?
one more thing in hH20 from where u bring third Hydrogen atom, what u add in water? I am talking about that smaller Hydrogen atom which u have denoted with "h".

[VCheng]

smart man please answer my queries before leaving

where did u get ur car painted/wrapped?
one more thing in hH20 from where u bring third Hydrogen atom, what u add in water? I am talking about that smaller Hydrogen atom which u have denoted with "h".

That hydrogen comes from the diet of the driver (base model tuknaalojee) or from a hydrogen bomb fitted in the trunk (deluxe model tuknaalojee).

[drift222]

That hydrogen comes from the diet of the driver (base model tuknaalojee) or from a hydrogen bomb fitted in the trunk (deluxe model tuknaalojee).

in first case is production of Hydrogen (smaller atom denoted by h) also related to smartness?

[Xulfiqar]

ok - so lets start,,...- let me have a sip of colombian espresso - and let me remember the colorful language of my professor (he was a nice guy, his way of teaching was very strange, try to play him and he will answer you in street language with street examples and make you mop the floor too during class while explaining how the surfactant in the mop water works)

So senor.

we are talking about hydronium acting as fuel here.. Hydronium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so as we know that generic water can contain this in some content as natural state we also know these hydrons cannot free exist, they are also pretty acidic in nature.

So where are we trying to go with this hydrogen that you are magically extracting in enough quantity to run an otto cycle engine with.

[drift222]

To get him into conversation u hv to prove urself smart enough to pronounce "technology" right (for the rest of english, do whatever u want to do with it)

[ahmed1091]

HHO kits are advertised in Pakistan by ex NED University engineer for Rs. 24000. Has anybody installed this kit?
Anyone know more about this kits pls share your information with us. I am seriously thinking about buying this kit for car and Generator for savings.

[ahmed1091]

I feel sympathy for those who think that Hydrogen can not be taken from H2O. Those who limited thinking should visit Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more or amazon.co.uk. These sites are selling HHO kits in USA and Europe and these kits are fairly easy to install. If this was a scam amazon would not continue to sell this kit.

If Pakistani Custom was not the way it is, I would have bought the kit from Europe for delivery in Pakistan but we all know that unfortunately most Europe USA and Ebay only seller do not deliver such item to Pakistan for obvious reasons.

[Teeboyuk]

I feel sympathy for those who think that Hydrogen can not be taken from H2O. Those who limited thinking should visit Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more or amazon.co.uk. These sites are selling HHO kits in USA and Europe and these kits are fairly easy to install. If this was a scam amazon would not continue to sell this kit.

If Pakistani Custom was not the way it is, I would have bought the kit from Europe for delivery in Pakistan but we all know that unfortunately most Europe USA and Ebay only seller do not deliver such item to Pakistan for obvious reasons.

So how does this kit work bro.

[VCheng]

I feel sympathy for those who think that Hydrogen can not be taken from H2O. Those who limited thinking should visit Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more or amazon.co.uk. These sites are selling HHO kits in USA and Europe and these kits are fairly easy to install. If this was a scam amazon would not continue to sell this kit.

If Pakistani Custom was not the way it is, I would have bought the kit from Europe for delivery in Pakistan but we all know that unfortunately most Europe USA and Ebay only seller do not deliver such item to Pakistan for obvious reasons.

We all know that hydrogen can be taken from water. But you fail to mention that it takes more energy to release that hydrogen than what you get back from burning this hydrogen, making the whole premise of this magical product impossible.

Oh, and there are plenty of scam products just like the HHO kit sold to idiots worldwide from Amazon.

[Xulfiqar]

how come we have this thread here?

and if an NED grad is selling this - NED's credibility went down the toilet.

[ahmed1091]

We all know that hydrogen can be taken from water. But you fail to mention that it takes more energy to release that hydrogen than what you get back from burning this hydrogen, making the whole premise of this magical product impossible.

Oh, and there are plenty of scam products just like the HHO kit sold to idiots worldwide from Amazon.

At least 99% purchases on amazon are done by credit cards and covered by Card company for refund if the product is not satisfactory. There is no cash or easypaisa.
First of all dear teeboyuk: you really don't need to know the technical details of the cell but you may read the following report (also you listen to music but you don't know how the voice is converted into analogue or digital signal and then back to sound)
Quote "In 2007, the U.S. Department of Transportation issued a final report outlining the use of hydrogen fuel in commercial vehicles. The report stated the use of hydrogen injection systems, essentially an HHO system, could be used to increase mileage and reduce emissions in commercial diesel vehicles.Using electrolysis to create Brown's Gas does work. Most systems use a stack of steel plates that act as positive and negative poles for electricity from the car's alternator. The current, with the help of a salt (potassium hydroxide), rips apart the molecular bonds that hold a water molecule together. The gas is pulled into the intake manifold by the engine vacuum. The gas is either used to increase the quality of the fuel burn, increase mileage and reduce emissions, or replace a portion of the fuel."unquote

Those who think it takes more energy to get Hydrogen from water then the energy itself, are probably not doing it efficiently or correctly. Electricity required by the electrolyzer is very small and easily available by Alternator. Ask auto electrician and he will tell you that alternator only need to do 20% of charging to keep the car running however if you use music system loudly and have all the lights ON then alternator may be working 80%.

One last thing for VCheng : Ediots actually never accept that they are idiots.

[VCheng]

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Those who think it takes more energy to get Hydrogen from water then the energy itself, are probably not doing it efficiently or correctly. Electricity required by the electrolyzer is very small and easily available by Alternator. Ask auto electrician and he will tell you that alternator only need to do 20% of charging to keep the car running however if you use music system loudly and have all the lights ON then alternator may be working 80%.

One last thing for VCheng : Ediots actually never accept that they are idiots.

Thank you for proving that yet again by persisting in trying to further your scam.

[ahmed1091]

Found a review by a van driver who installed the kit in his van. His video is also available on the net. It appears that engine does not run on Hydrogen alone but small amount of Hydrogen in injected in the inlet manifold (just like CNG) but Petrol or diesel also continues to flow to engine. Hydrogen not only reduces consumption but being a cleaner fuel, less deposits in the valves and exhaust increasing overhaul periods and engine life (Contrary to CNG).

"I was skeptical with the product, but i installed one on my van and it increased my mileage, i noticed my vans performance improved, i decided to make a video of my results, i found out the technology is a worldwide phenomena, motorists in india, usa are using it, with fuel prices very high i would recommend this product, there are thousands of videos with hho installs on youtube, this is not a scam!! the way it works is simple, water is split into hydrogen/oxygen and these gases are injected to the engine via air intake, it helps the engine to burn more fuel that you normally waste, you get more power and less smoke from your exhaust as well."

[capsat]

Found a review by a van driver who installed the kit in his van. His video is also available on the net. It appears that engine does not run on Hydrogen alone but small amount of Hydrogen in injected in the inlet manifold (just like CNG) but Petrol or diesel also continues to flow to engine. Hydrogen not only reduces consumption but being a cleaner fuel, less deposits in the valves and exhaust increasing overhaul periods and engine life (Contrary to CNG).

"I was skeptical with the product, but i installed one on my van and it increased my mileage, i noticed my vans performance improved, i decided to make a video of my results, i found out the technology is a worldwide phenomena, motorists in india, usa are using it, with fuel prices very high i would recommend this product, there are thousands of videos with hho installs on youtube, this is not a scam!! the way it works is simple, water is split into hydrogen/oxygen and these gases are injected to the engine via air intake, it helps the engine to burn more fuel that you normally waste, you get more power and less smoke from your exhaust as well."

you are in Karachi I would like to test with petrol / diesel in 1.5 litre bottle I will bring myself. Please let me know when & where. before Saturday this week.

[VCheng]

Found a review by a van driver who installed the kit in his van. His video is also available on the net. It appears that engine does not run on Hydrogen alone but small amount of Hydrogen in injected in the inlet manifold (just like CNG) but Petrol or diesel also continues to flow to engine. Hydrogen not only reduces consumption but being a cleaner fuel, less deposits in the valves and exhaust increasing overhaul periods and engine life (Contrary to CNG).

"I was skeptical with the product, but i installed one on my van and it increased my mileage, i noticed my vans performance improved, i decided to make a video of my results, i found out the technology is a worldwide phenomena, motorists in india, usa are using it, with fuel prices very high i would recommend this product, there are thousands of videos with hho installs on youtube, this is not a scam!! the way it works is simple, water is split into hydrogen/oxygen and these gases are injected to the engine via air intake, it helps the engine to burn more fuel that you normally waste, you get more power and less smoke from your exhaust as well."

This is total 100% unadulterated BS.

[Xulfiqar]

At least 99% purchases on amazon are done by credit cards and covered by Card company for refund if the product is not satisfactory. There is no cash or easypaisa.
First of all dear teeboyuk: you really don't need to know the technical details of the cell but you may read the following report (also you listen to music but you don't know how the voice is converted into analogue or digital signal and then back to sound)
Quote "In 2007, the U.S. Department of Transportation issued a final report outlining the use of hydrogen fuel in commercial vehicles. The report stated the use of hydrogen injection systems, essentially an HHO system, could be used to increase mileage and reduce emissions in commercial diesel vehicles.Using electrolysis to create Brown's Gas does work. Most systems use a stack of steel plates that act as positive and negative poles for electricity from the car's alternator. The current, with the help of a salt (potassium hydroxide), rips apart the molecular bonds that hold a water molecule together. The gas is pulled into the intake manifold by the engine vacuum. The gas is either used to increase the quality of the fuel burn, increase mileage and reduce emissions, or replace a portion of the fuel."unquote

Those who think it takes more energy to get Hydrogen from water then the energy itself, are probably not doing it efficiently or correctly. Electricity required by the electrolyzer is very small and easily available by Alternator. Ask auto electrician and he will tell you that alternator only need to do 20% of charging to keep the car running however if you use music system loudly and have all the lights ON then alternator may be working 80%.

One last thing for VCheng : Ediots actually never accept that they are idiots.

hmm - you still think your little H2 gas is enough fuel to power an otto cycle engine?

[ahmed1091]

capsat look at my first post, I wanted advise as wanted to buy a kit. Meanwhile I have done some research and use my instinct. I am looking for people who are running their cars with this kit in Pakistan. By the way I am Rawalpindi. I have corrected the profile.

[Teeboyuk]

First of all dear teeboyuk: you really don't need to know the technical details of the cell but you may read the following report (also you listen to music but you don't know how the voice is converted into analogue or digital signal and then back to sound)
Quote "In 2007, the U.S. Department of Transportation issued a final report outlining the use of hydrogen fuel in commercial vehicles. The report stated the use of hydrogen injection systems, essentially an HHO system, could be used to increase mileage and reduce emissions in commercial diesel vehicles.Using electrolysis to create Brown's Gas does work. Most systems use a stack of steel plates that act as positive and negative poles for electricity from the car's alternator. The current, with the help of a salt (potassium hydroxide), rips apart the molecular bonds that hold a water molecule together. The gas is pulled into the intake manifold by the engine vacuum. The gas is either used to increase the quality of the fuel burn, increase mileage and reduce emissions, or replace a portion of the fuel."unquote

Those who think it takes more energy to get Hydrogen from water then the energy itself, are probably not doing it efficiently or correctly. Electricity required by the electrolyzer is very small and easily available by Alternator. Ask auto electrician and he will tell you that alternator only need to do 20% of charging to keep the car running however if you use music system loudly and have all the lights ON then alternator may be working 80%.

One last thing for VCheng : Ediots actually never accept that they are idiots.[/QUOTE]

Wow. I'm amazed. I asked simple question .. The answer I got was totally retarded...it seems u know more about me than I know about my self. If your being rude to someone. What sort of response are you looking for.

So if buy this kit. And use my lights put my CD player on that's playing **** louge the kit won't work.

As far as it goes for Amazon people have to purchase the kit in the first place.

Hho pls provide pics of your kit your contact details so a pakwheels member can check .. So we can get an accurate picture

Regards.

Tahir.

[Xulfiqar]

dude we have learned that a hydrogen molecule will exist in free state and will be produced in enough quantity to run an otto cycle engine.

That sounds like this guy had a go at the Barking Dog Pub...