Auto Club, EFU and Suzuki 3S- What a coincidence. Need opinions:)

[syncview]

if they spent three and a half working on cleaning the parts making their outer look shiny the system wouldn't work at optimum

1 - did they replace the drier?
2 - how did they clean the system pipes/condenser/evap?
3 - how did they dry it if they cleaned the items mentioned in #2
4 - how did they check for leaks in the system after assembling everything?
5 - how long and how much vacuum did they pull before charging with refrigerant?

[faiz.aslam.121]

if they spent three and a half working on cleaning the parts making their outer look shiny they wouldn't work.

1 - did they replace the drier?

2 - how did they clean the system pipes/condenser/evap?

3 - how did they dry it if they cleaned the items mentioned in #2

4 - how did they check for leaks in the system after assembling everything?

5 - how long and how much vacuum did they pull before charging with refrigerant?

1-Drier as in the Filter with Silica Gel- Nope
2-Condenser was scrubbed with a brush and Washing Powder. System pipes and Evaporator was not cleaned.
3-Condenser was dried by leaving it in the sun for approx. 10 minutes.
4-The Mechanic used Soapy water i.e foam and put a bit on the top part of Condenser and a bit on the bottom part ( Where the 2 Blue coloured caps are )
5- They Vacuumed it for 12 minutes.

[muradi]

Get the condenser checked by another 3s or trustful guy and ask whether it is genuine or not.

[syncview]

1-Drier as in the Filter with Silica Gel- Nope----should've been replaced
2-Condenser was scrubbed with a brush and Washing Powder. System pipes and Evaporator was not cleaned.
3-Condenser was dried by leaving it in the sun for approx. 10 minutes.
4-The Mechanic used Soapy water i.e foam and put a bit on the top part of Condenser and a bit on the bottom part ( Where the 2 Blue coloured caps are ) .. if they pushed in compressed air, they probably choked the already old drier real bad. this part is ideally neatly done with OFN..
5- They Vacuumed it for 12 minutes. --- that is like almost nothing, ideally 45 mins to 1 hour vacuum pull then with pump off ~30 mins to see if the system holds the vacuum or not.. if it holds then system is good to be charged with refrigerant

10char....

[faiz.aslam.121]

Get the condenser checked by another 3s or trustful guy and ask whether it is genuine or not.

That's on my To Do list tomorrow- They finished with my car approx. 17:40, so I didn't have much time to lurk around. Only dealerships will be open tomorrow, because of Friday.

[faiz.aslam.121]

10char...
if they pushed in compressed air, they probably choked the drier real bad. this part is ideally neatly done with OFN...

that is like almost nothing, ideally 45 mins to 1 hour vacuum pull then with pump off ~30 mins to see if the system holds the vacuum or not.. if it holds then system is good to be charged with refrigerant

Bhai, can you please explain what OFN stands for?
And, 3S was rushing- From one car to another.
Can Chinese / Thai AC parts give same performance as OEM's?

[syncview]

Bhai, can you please explain what OFN stands for?
And, 3S was rushing- From one car to another.
Can Chinese / Thai AC parts give same performance as OEM's?

oxygen free nitrogen

[riders7]

bill 11K milege ka hai, abi 26K driven hai??? kam insurence company se karwaya hai ya suzuki 3s se??? bill maion jo parts price hai wo kon kon se hen kahan se buy kiye hen?????????

[dr3vil]

my cars system was Effed by 3s in last year and drove it with jammed comp for 6 months and 3s estimated new comp new condensor new pipes and listing to that i did not even seen the bill and esimate as i know its better leave it
i took it to some local mech which i got to know
he checked ac by connecting a fredge comp to ac comp and putting on load on system and by which my ac started makking screeching sounds and said only comp is faulty
so next day they open up most of system condensor dryer etc and we saw comp it had no OIl in it was all khushk mech said lets put nd 8 oil and see if this comp has some life left in it and comp came back to life and working fine now a days
now main MAksad of this story was that u should also check the comp as before my ac died i had same issue no cooling in day load on engine a bit and freezing in night
it could be simple as oil

[saadkhangul]

sell it and buy ford crown victoria for summers.

[syncview]

sell it and buy ford crown victoria for summers.

I'd do that in a heartbeat for all seasons.

[devil33]

People in pakistan use qabli even taanka laga condensor,radiator and still they are satisfied...dnt wry if ur condensor or radiator are chinese or thai one...if they are in gud condition then its ok...they are only meant to pass gas and water which is not dependant on brand...just go to some gud ac guy...3s dealerships are moatly crapped...my santro's ac wasn't working well and they asked me to change radiator and compressor while other ac guy jus serviced it and ac was juat awesome then and i had never faced car over heating issue

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[faiz.aslam.121]

People in pakistan use qabli even taanka laga condensor,radiator and still they are satisfied...dnt wry if ur condensor or radiator are chinese or thai one...if they are in gud condition then its ok...they are only meant to pass gas and water which is not dependant on brand...just go to some gud ac guy...3s dealerships are moatly crapped...my santro's ac wasn't working well and they asked me to change radiator and compressor while other ac guy jus serviced it and ac was juat awesome then and i had never faced car over heating issue

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The thing is- AFAIK, Auto Club did not use OEM parts, which they said that they would source from Suzuki 3S dealership.
And you know that there is a big difference in OEM and copies- I.e brake discs, axles etc.

[devil33]

The thing is- AFAIK, Auto Club did not use OEM parts, which they said that they would source from Suzuki 3S dealership.
And you know that there is a big difference in OEM and copies- I.e brake discs, axles etc.

Yes i know there is a big difference between oem and copy...

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[faiz.aslam.121]

bill 11K milege ka hai, abi 26K driven hai??? kam insurence company se karwaya hai ya suzuki 3s se??? bill maion jo parts price hai wo kon kon se hen kahan se buy kiye hen?????????

This accident happened when car was driven 11,000 km.
EFU and Suzuki Islamabad motors didn't come to an agreement, since Suzuki ISB raised their Labour rates and my car needed a lot of perfection work.

The nearest and good place was Auto Club. I left the car there, took Bus to Faisalabad and collected car 21 days later.
I only paid 5% depreciation, since I had Insurance.

There were no mentioning of prices in the bill as you can see above, which was my fault. I trusted Auto Club blindly, but when I compared prices today, the bill just doesn't make sense- Radiator and Condenser costs like 65,000-/ for just them 2 parts, how can you manage to do all denting and painting, bumper replacement, ac gas refill in just 43,000-/? '

Some Chah Sultan visits I assume.

[faiz.aslam.121]

Yes i know there is a big difference between oem and copy...

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And, that's why I and 3S is believing is the cause for AC performance. Let's see what Insurance Surveyor says tomorrow !

[riders7]

This accident happened when car was driven 11,000 km.
EFU and Suzuki Islamabad motors didn't come to an agreement, since Suzuki ISB raised their Labour rates and my car needed a lot of perfection work.

The nearest and good place was Auto Club. I left the car there, took Bus to Faisalabad and collected car 21 days later.
I only paid 5% depreciation, since I had Insurance.

There were no mentioning of prices in the bill as you can see above, which was my fault. I trusted Auto Club blindly, but when I compared prices today, the bill just doesn't make sense- Radiator and Condenser costs like 65,000-/ for just them 2 parts, how can you manage to do all denting and painting, bumper replacement, ac gas refill in just 43,000-/? '

Some Chah Sultan visits I assume.

thats your fault, my frnd is working with 3s in islamabad, 3s n all well known other workshop doing totally drama with owners, my frnd said 1st if all we try owner left the car n never stay with car, n he said in 95% cases we do not put genuine parts but charge the price of genuine parts. also on oil change never ever put genuine oil filter but charge the price of genuine filter. he said ppl trust us n we take advantage of there trust,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, there must b a problem in your car parts.

[faiz.aslam.121]

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Yup- It is my fault.
It would have been better if I towed the car to Faisalabad, by paying 20,000-/, but I did not have that much on me.

I am just spreading awareness, no matter how famous these garage's are, do not trust me.
Whenever I get work done in FSD- I stay with the car, no matter what.

The thing is- I did not pay the full amount, EFU did, I only paid 5% of the total amount.
And, EFU is meant to use OEM and only OEM parts. The case is different for JDM cars...

[umarkhan1]

Yup- It is my fault.
It would have been better if I towed the car to Faisalabad, by paying 20,000-/, but I did not have that much on me.

I am just spreading awareness, no matter how famous these garage's are, do not trust me.
Whenever I get work done in FSD- I stay with the car, no matter what.

The thing is- I did not pay the full amount, EFU did, I only paid 5% of the total amount.
And, EFU is meant to use OEM and only OEM parts. The case is different for JDM cars...

have you checked a/c of some other swift??
even corollas and other cars suffer in peak hours

[faiz.aslam.121]

have you checked a/c of some other swift??
even corollas and other cars suffer in peak hours

I have checked in Corolla and Honda City- They were awesome.
Corolla was a rental one, 2012 model, 196,000 KM driven and car was on CNG when I checked it
City was new, a friends one.

Will get into the bottom of this.