Best battery brand in Pakistan

[razaksyed]

@xulfiqar,
where would you normally source S. acid and distelled water? what make of distelled water Murree Brewery? what is the ideal composition / ratio?

[autophile]

On Monday I installed AC Delco dry battery in my Xli. This is my first dry battery. Its code is NS60L and I paid 6000 PKR (old battery adjusted). The actual amperes are 45, unlike Pakistani batteries where actual ampere is lesser than printed.

Actually I was planning to try Volta maintenance free battery (46 number, definitely not ampere) and it was not available only 42# was available and it was costing me 3,500 rs after giving my old battery for 1000 rs.

Then this AC Delco 42# was for 5000 rs and 60# was for 6000 rs. The guy said that they install 42 in Xli and when I came home I read the stickers which put the amperes at around 35-38 (don't remember exactly). I noticed that when I switched on parking lights, AC button light became dim, also AC blower worked slower and faster with the accelerator and it was a clear sign that alternator was working over time and battery was not providing required amperes.

After a few hours I went back to the shop and ask him to replace it with NS60L which is 45 ampere. I think that if you have amp-woofer installed, replace your battery with at least 45-55 amperes and do not be deceived by the model numbers, they look like amperes, but actual amperes on Ac Delco are printed on the sticker.

I do not know whether 6000 rs are justified on a battery, while the normal battery for 3,500 would do the same job, but you have to monitor and add water periodically.

[lovesleeping]

ac delo is best brand we had 2 battiers in our lc it had been alive for 5 year

[revengez]

The guy said that they install 42 in Xli and when I came home I read the stickers which put the amperes at around 35-38 (don't remember exactly). I noticed that when I switched on parking lights, AC button light became dim, also AC blower worked slower and faster with the accelerator and it was a clear sign that alternator was working over time and battery was not providing required amperes.

@Autophile... dear, thanks for all this information but one think I need to confirm. I am facing the same problem as I quoted from your post. My car blower work slower and fast with accelerator. What can be the issue? Battry or generator? As I am planning to replace my battry as it is too old now. I am using AGS and now it started giving problem after 2 trouble free years.

Thanks.

[autophile]

@Autophile... dear, thanks for all this information but one think I need to confirm. I am facing the same problem as I quoted from your post. My car blower work slower and fast with accelerator. What can be the issue? Battery or generator? As I am planning to replace my battery as it is too old now. I am using AGS and now it started giving problem after 2 trouble free years.

Thanks.

@revengez. The average battery life is a little over one years and after that it is all bonus. I replaced my stock battery after three years, the previous FB lasted from Oct 2008 to May 2011 (still had life).

I think that more ampere the battery has, the less load on the alternator. If battery is low or weak, alternator has to work more so I would advise you to go for at least 50 amperes (not the 50 or 60 written on battery sides, but check the amperes in the dealers specs card).

[abdullah1]

Ags

[Xulfiqar]

@xulfiqar,
where would you normally source S. acid and distelled water? what make of distelled water Murree Brewery? what is the ideal composition / ratio?

from the chemicals supply market and distilled from the medicine wholesale market or lab supplies. and mix 33% acid with 66% water - if you have a hydrometer thats good, then check with that, otherwise use a digital scale and weigh 1 litre of electrolyte 1 litre should weight 1270 grams at room temperature. (basic school physics)

anyways to the rest saying that battery life is 1 year, that means that my house cars in Pakistan are either really lucky or there is some voodoo going on. The last batteries installed in them were in 2008, and they still show absolutely no problems, And I dont fiddle with the cars that much. Prior to that, the old batteries were replaced after being 6 years in service.

btw the battery brand is AGS and Exide - and I have a secret for their long life.

[NaXuN]

FB

[autophile]

from the chemicals supply market and distilled from the medicine wholesale market or lab supplies. and mix 33% acid with 66% water - if you have a hydrometer thats good, then check with that, otherwise use a digital scale and weigh 1 litre of electrolyte 1 litre should weight 1270 grams at room temperature. (basic school physics)

anyways to the rest saying that battery life is 1 year, that means that my house cars in Pakistan are either really lucky or there is some voodoo going on. The last batteries installed in them were in 2008, and they still show absolutely no problems, And I dont fiddle with the cars that much. Prior to that, the old batteries were replaced after being 6 years in service.

btw the battery brand is AGS and Exide - and I have a secret for their long life.

Xulfiqar bhai. the optimum or peak life is one year, however, batteries can last much longer. I however change when first time battery is unable to rev the self starter and that moment comes once in three years. I know that I can still use the battery by replacing electrolyte or recharging it, but as someone said above a weakening battery puts load on the alternator:) so better have a full strong battery after two or three years.

BTW my friend is using stock FB battery in his 2006 Xli. He says that it still revs the self and car starts on two selfs and the horn has become weaker but the battery is still running after five years:)

The life of battery also depends on how many start/stops in a day you have. I have tons of starts/stops a day:)

[Xulfiqar]

Xulfiqar bhai. the optimum or peak life is one year, however, batteries can last much longer. I however change when first time battery is unable to rev the self starter and that moment comes once in three years. I know that I can still use the battery by replacing electrolyte or recharging it, but as someone said above a weakening battery puts load on the alternator:) so better have a full strong battery after two or three years.

BTW my friend is using stock FB battery in his 2006 Xli. He says that it still revs the self and car starts on two selfs and the horn has become weaker but the battery is still running after five years:)

The life of battery also depends on how many start/stops in a day you have. I have tons of starts/stops a day:)

my diesel VW in Pakistan had about 10 start stops per day on average, that little engine has a 23:1 compression ratio with a planetary gear starter sucking 400 amps on startup. Still uses the same AGS battery I installed in it.

The other jap cars also face similar duty, If your battery was prepared nicely, and you positively know for sure that your whole circuit is good, (meaning no corrossion on grounds etc) and your alternator is good - the battery will live a long life.

I see people in Pakistan push start a dead battery car and then expect the alternator to fully charge the battery (for sure the alternator will fail shortly and undercharge/damage the battery and the next battery and the next too). There are some recommendations and procedures for everything in life.

[abq_honda]

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Can you suggest which battery i will replace in 2007GLi , currently its AGS 34B19L ... i have no idea about its amp.. the car is on Petrol.

[haris457]

whatever battery brand you select it should be prepared with distilled water and sulphuric acid electrolyte, and not the tap water sewage that battery shops have in their drums - and the charging system should be top notch too, the grounds should be of good contact also, the glow plugs in a diesel suck current and need a good solid ground to the cylinder head to heat up properly.

Dont fall for brand names - you need to fulfill the basic battery operational requirements first, then comment on quality. If your battery failed in 16 months - you need to look at the root of the problem

bro can u guide how to prepare electrolyte with correct specific gravity at home for charging cars and UPS batteries?

[haris457]

as getting 33% and 66% by weight is difficult option reason being one cant know how much sulphuric acid has already been diluted by the supplier

[irfansiddique]

recently installed Hankook battery in my civic 60amp.

[levin]

im using osaka. so far no issues with it.

[Aleoz]

Hankook, b cz it is IMPORTED.

[celica]

First AGS and then Exide

[aqibasit]

Phoenix with 6 months replacement warranty

[Xulfiqar]

as getting 33% and 66% by weight is difficult option reason being one cant know how much sulphuric acid has already been diluted by the supplier

Sorry for the late input

measure the SG of neat acid with a set of scales, the SG of pure acid should be 1.840, meaning that 1 litre of sulphuric acid should weigh 1840 grams.

[Xulfiqar]

I have a white mercedes benz OE battery in my car, its a 100AH battery with 900 cold cranking amps, it has a sticker that states it was put in service in 2006. It still starts the 6 cyl diesel engine perfectly. I regularly check the SG of the electrolyte and correct as necessary. The alternator is 120A and always charges a stable 14.1.

These batteries are known to last for a decade easily. The batteries in Pakistan are quite good too, the secret to their long life is preparing them with PURE DISTILLED WATER and PURE ACID. Do not expect any sort of life from it if you pour in tap water and gutter ka taizab with stuff floating in it.