Car Care and Detailing Dreams

[wingtwister]

hehe dear brother
natural wax allways gives more depth and richness in paint so show time needs this
since its attract dust so for a hasel free weekdays syn is good

one more good thing of syn its gives good water sheeting so very good in winter mist and rainy season

inshAllah, i'll try this configuration with meg's GC and meg's NXT....

[margallar]

@vague one

It was shown here in the thread, the yellow one some chinese thingy that plugs into the car`s cig lighter...

now i remember, you had also posted its pics,

so how did you remove the elfy?

on a friend's ride there was something on the paint which really confused me, it was either lacquer or elfy(it had the pattern of human skin, so i suppose some guy had spilled elfy, no painter would do such a thing), i claybarred that spot in the end it was smooth and level with the rest of the paint, but still if you looked with a very close eye that spot had a yellowish tinge, but i didnt want to touch the car with any abrasive so i just waxed it after the clay bar treatment and khuda hafiz

@shazo
jitna ala make up aur facial dolphin kerwa rahi hai muje shak par rha hai iski shadi kareeb hai

[margallar]

inshAllah, i'll try this configuration with meg's GC and meg's NXT....

where are you getting the meguiars stuff?

[JuGnO]

first of all
Happy Birth Day rizi bhai

V1 Shazo ki ride to mashAllah bohut aaallllaaaa ho gai h great great
Shazo the teasers are great, hope you are satisfied

@xzap042 well yes i am trying to find out the clay bar but still not idea where to get it.
We need help guys on this. If any member has some spare do let me know

[JuGnO]

well well well
what a nice surprise (specially for reading of xzap042)

I found this thread which is definitely worth a read.
The members tried the Turtle Wax ICE Liquid Clay Bar and they are satisfied with it, inspite of many negative responses elsewhere on internet.

here is the link
http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing-product-discussion/87409-tried-turtle-wax-ice-liquid-clay-bar-today-have-say.html

After reading it i am satisfied enough that if i dont find a clay bar (which i know i wouldn't) i am going to get this product for tonight's soft wrestling with my car

[rizi_85]

usman bhai
i have seen shazo's car condition on gtg and what seeing in pics are hell difernce, bhai ki car ki value simply 100k increase ho gye hai ab

great work

dont you think arround wind shield's shower nobs need treatment by hand as rotery left thoes areas

Indeed the car is in great condition lakin koi pata nahin koi dealer shazo ko kahay k poori car painted hai lakin paint bohat acha hai

dear rizwan bhai
mubarkan bhai jan
shadhi ki tu be pachtaye na ki tu be pachtaye so better ker ke pachtayia jaye

bhai jan waiting for wedding card

Thanx Ahmad Bhai, and yes kaam ker k pachtaya jaey to acha hai

first of all
Happy Birth Day rizi bhai

V1 Shazo ki ride to mashAllah bohut aaallllaaaa ho gai h great great
Shazo the teasers are great, hope you are satisfied

@xzap042 well yes i am trying to find out the clay bar but still not idea where to get it.
We need help guys on this. If any member has some spare do let me know

Thanks a lot Bro!

[shazo]

@ margallar, nhe abi iss ka shadi ho gai hai D series vtec k sath
@ RIZI many many happy return of the day a V HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO U
@ JUGNO thanks bro yep its looking really cool now

[margallar]

ab d series ki shadi turbo k sath ho jaye to

[ussi]

This is a rotary my friend.....the exact one I use ever since my Meguairs an Portar Cable both got burnt out......extremely dangerous in the hands of an inexperienced person....it`s minimum rpm is 1k an on max trot it will touch 6k rpm......an you can adjust many backing plates as well as foams onto it.

so what do u suggest, should i go for this one or any other that u recomend, my range is limited to 3k and im not a pro u know

[shazo]

^^^ bro trust me as m not a professional user of rotary but i faced such chance from V1 to use if trust me bandy ke arrath ho jati hai its not an easy to operate it, ur 1 mistake could change ur car shine into something else butter is to use Orbital car buffer it will be ur first tool as a beginner

[vague_one]

so what do u suggest, should i go for this one or any other that u recomend, my range is limited to 3k and im not a pro u know

Shazo has very nicely explained it below for you....go for biloxxi to start with...later on you can shift to these rotaries

^^^ bro trust me as m not a professional user of rotary but i faced such chance from V1 to use if trust me bandy ke arrath ho jati hai its not an easy to operate it, ur 1 mistake could change ur car shine into something else butter is to use Orbital car buffer it will be ur first tool as a beginner

[accord7362]

@Kashif Bahi Page 400--Allaa Mehnat , allaa products , Alllaaa Procedure , alllaa Write Up & Dabang result you really give white a ''Pearl'' Finish , Great result

@Omer Bahi What I can say Page402 tuu bas app kay Naam hee hoo gayaa , your love for detailing is awesome & write ups kee tuu kiaa hee Baat hayy , Maza aa jaataa hayy read kar kay, & Allaa alllaa Pic on page 405 ,well it will be honour for me to meet you guys at Karachi airport' Inshallaha I will land around 11AM on Wednesday 15th feb according to current program.

@murtaza Nice job on evoo

@nomi929 interior looking toooooo goodd on page-403 , great effort & result

@ground-zero very good effort , I kn you can improve & @MistrO is master of Black follow him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Vague G you do it again , what I can say , Allaaa , Allaaa result as I saw this car personally at G2G , Shazooo you lucky A$$$

@ahmad Bahi very informative input from your side , as always , JAZAKALLHA

@ JuGno nice home work before Launch good luck --------

Regards to All from West Africa , Angola

[aamirq]

best combo pre wax cleaner,then synthetic wax followed by a coat of carnauba wax!

[Mistero]

@Amir...thanks a million for a very beautiful compliment...master of black...sir a long way to go before I can truly earn it...but the journey now I can say is definetly on...I am beginning to understand myself, my car and the art behind the products...emphasis is on beginning to understand...aim is to eventually become a BLACK MAGICIAN...just like our Magic Baba....hahaha...

Sir Inshah Allah welcoming party tyar hogee Wednesday 15th ko at khi airport...I know atleast four guys will be spending a lot of labor on detail wiping their cars that morning

Sir have a safe trip and safe rotation...heard what you do is amongst one of the most dangerous jobs in the world...

Waisay two days ka bonus to mill gaya shoro mein but made you late by 2 days at end of rotation...you are missing 14th (V day) at home man...Begum nay to danday marney hee hain...agur lady in red kay haath pair hotey to us nay bhee aap ko wax and buff kardayna tha aur wo bhee dodo kay baghair

[ussi]

^^^ bro trust me as m not a professional user of rotary but i faced such chance from V1 to use if trust me bandy ke arrath ho jati hai its not an easy to operate it, ur 1 mistake could change ur car shine into something else butter is to use Orbital car buffer it will be ur first tool as a beginner

what is an orbital buffer? can u pls post a reference pic and its approx cost?

[Mistero]

what is an orbital buffer? can u pls post a reference pic and its approx cost?

arey ussi meray bhai...

DA/orbital is stage 2...Rotary is stage 4...aap pehlay Stage one par to aayeeyay..

Stage one is using good quality products and doing multi step routine by hand...perfect it and then move to DA...

Stage two...doing all that you were doing by hand...incorporating the the DA/Orbital in it one by one...learn to control the machine on the paint along with the product.

Stage three...a long way ahead...this stage is when you start getting into the DIY (Do it yourself) platform by trying to fix 'professional' problems yourself...start removing scratches and swirls instead of masking them...you start introducing abrasive products and start cutting the paint to bring out virgin paint from underneath...stage three itself has two stages...first is again using these products panel by panel by hand and then slowly incorporating the DA/Orbital into it...

Stage four...the big machine...the rotary...when you have learn't the science of the products, your paint, your hand is stable and you know how and when to apply a machine...you can play with rotations, pressure and stuff...that is when you move on to a rotary...

bhaijaan...detailing to chohrain...kissee cheez main bhee short cuts nahi hotey...A rotary or an orbital will only screw up your paint if your technique is wrong and if the product is average or poor...

Imagine jo product chund revolutions haath say dekay aap kee car ko average kar rahee hai...wohee product jub 2000 RPM par garee kay paint par malee jaey gee to kitna satya naas karey gee...

On a very serious note...I wasn't really able to understand you...from asking help and then settling for mediocre products, then asking more help and then trying to jump on to major major professional levels of detailing...it was very confusing to understand you...then I got it...you want to do it...but because of not having access to good products, you got stuck with mediocre products which are not giving you the result which you see on this thread...and now the way out you have thought about it is that it is most probably either your paint needs a cut (because Usman brings out that awesome shine after cutting on old cars) and because you think it is because of a rotary...Sirjee...a rotary even if you are an expert at using it...will not do anything for your car with the products that you are using. Right now you are putting the blame of not getting the result on the absence of rotary and maybe a bad layer of paint on your car...that is not the case in reality...in reality it is only about:
a. Mediocre products
b. Hand Application technique

Ussi yaar, I haven't seen one post by you on questions on hand application methods, on applicator pads and MFs...bhaijaan....I am sorry for this phsyoanalysis...and do not mean to offend you...pur meray bhai you are one of us and you are spending time on the internet...I want this time you have invested with us to get full returns...you have a Masha Allah say a very nice and new car and we can see that you have invested quite a lot in and made it your princess...and we also do not want to see it get ruined.

You have 3K budget...come down to Karachi...it can get you a really good polish, shampoo and detailer, add a lil more money and you can get some nice polishing cloths and a cleaner....all you need is to make a trip to Karachi...it is just an hour and 15 minutes...

[rizi_85]

arey ussi meray bhai...

DA/orbital is stage 2...Rotary is stage 4...aap pehlay Stage one par to aayeeyay..

Stage one is using good quality products and doing multi step routine by hand...perfect it and then move to DA...

Stage two...doing all that you were doing by hand...incorporating the the DA/Orbital in it one by one...learn to control the machine on the paint along with the product.

Stage three...a long way ahead...this stage is when you start getting into the DIY (Do it yourself) platform by trying to fix 'professional' problems yourself...start removing scratches and swirls instead of masking them...you start introducing abrasive products and start cutting the paint to bring out virgin paint from underneath...stage three itself has two stages...first is again using these products panel by panel by hand and then slowly incorporating the DA/Orbital into it...

Stage four...the big machine...the rotary...when you have learn't the science of the products, your paint, your hand is stable and you know how and when to apply a machine...you can play with rotations, pressure and stuff...that is when you move on to a rotary...

bhaijaan...detailing to chohrain...kissee cheez main bhee short cuts nahi hotey...A rotary or an orbital will only screw up your paint if your technique is wrong and if the product is average or poor...

Imagine jo product chund revolutions haath say dekay aap kee car ko average kar rahee hai...wohee product jub 2000 RPM par garee kay paint par malee jaey gee to kitna satya naas karey gee...

On a very serious note...I wasn't really able to understand you...from asking help and then settling for mediocre products, then asking more help and then trying to jump on to major major professional levels of detailing...it was very confusing to understand you...then I got it...you want to do it...but because of not having access to good products, you got stuck with mediocre products which are not giving you the result which you see on this thread...and now the way out you have thought about it is that it is most probably either your paint needs a cut (because Usman brings out that awesome shine after cutting on old cars) and because you think it is because of a rotary...Sirjee...a rotary even if you are an expert at using it...will not do anything for your car with the products that you are using. Right now you are putting the blame of not getting the result on the absence of rotary and maybe a bad layer of paint on your car...that is not the case in reality...in reality it is only about:
a. Mediocre products
b. Hand Application technique

Ussi yaar, I haven't seen one post by you on questions on hand application methods, on applicator pads and MFs...bhaijaan....I am sorry for this phsyoanalysis...and do not mean to offend you...pur meray bhai you are one of us and you are spending time on the internet...I want this time you have invested with us to get full returns...you have a Masha Allah say a very nice and new car and we can see that you have invested quite a lot in and made it your princess...and we also do not want to see it get ruined.

You have 3K budget...come down to Karachi...it can get you a really good polish, shampoo and detailer, add a lil more money and you can get some nice polishing cloths and a cleaner....all you need is to make a trip to Karachi...it is just an hour and 15 minutes...

Once again great write up Omar bhai. Rotary is not an easy thing to handle, you lose concentration for a blink of eye and there you go :(........ I have been using DA for last 6 to 7 months and still I am learning, Rotary to bohat duur ki baat hai.

@ussi bro first try to source some good products, as suggested by Omar bhai, then start doing it from stage 1. If you have a passion for detailing, you will be using all these tools very soon but first try to understand the car paint.

[vague_one]

arey ussi meray bhai...

DA/orbital is stage 2...Rotary is stage 4...aap pehlay Stage one par to aayeeyay..

Stage one is using good quality products and doing multi step routine by hand...perfect it and then move to DA...

Stage two...doing all that you were doing by hand...incorporating the the DA/Orbital in it one by one...learn to control the machine on the paint along with the product.

Stage three...a long way ahead...this stage is when you start getting into the DIY (Do it yourself) platform by trying to fix 'professional' problems yourself...start removing scratches and swirls instead of masking them...you start introducing abrasive products and start cutting the paint to bring out virgin paint from underneath...stage three itself has two stages...first is again using these products panel by panel by hand and then slowly incorporating the DA/Orbital into it...

Stage four...the big machine...the rotary...when you have learn't the science of the products, your paint, your hand is stable and you know how and when to apply a machine...you can play with rotations, pressure and stuff...that is when you move on to a rotary...

bhaijaan...detailing to chohrain...kissee cheez main bhee short cuts nahi hotey...A rotary or an orbital will only screw up your paint if your technique is wrong and if the product is average or poor...

Imagine jo product chund revolutions haath say dekay aap kee car ko average kar rahee hai...wohee product jub 2000 RPM par garee kay paint par malee jaey gee to kitna satya naas karey gee...

On a very serious note...I wasn't really able to understand you...from asking help and then settling for mediocre products, then asking more help and then trying to jump on to major major professional levels of detailing...it was very confusing to understand you...then I got it...you want to do it...but because of not having access to good products, you got stuck with mediocre products which are not giving you the result which you see on this thread...and now the way out you have thought about it is that it is most probably either your paint needs a cut (because Usman brings out that awesome shine after cutting on old cars) and because you think it is because of a rotary...Sirjee...a rotary even if you are an expert at using it...will not do anything for your car with the products that you are using. Right now you are putting the blame of not getting the result on the absence of rotary and maybe a bad layer of paint on your car...that is not the case in reality...in reality it is only about:
a. Mediocre products
b. Hand Application technique

Ussi yaar, I haven't seen one post by you on questions on hand application methods, on applicator pads and MFs...bhaijaan....I am sorry for this phsyoanalysis...and do not mean to offend you...pur meray bhai you are one of us and you are spending time on the internet...I want this time you have invested with us to get full returns...you have a Masha Allah say a very nice and new car and we can see that you have invested quite a lot in and made it your princess...and we also do not want to see it get ruined.

You have 3K budget...come down to Karachi...it can get you a really good polish, shampoo and detailer, add a lil more money and you can get some nice polishing cloths and a cleaner....all you need is to make a trip to Karachi...it is just an hour and 15 minutes...

Elementary my dear, elementary.........priceless post.......I`m just gona zip it now.....nothing left to say!

[Mistero]

inshAllah, i'll try this configuration with meg's GC and meg's NXT....

@ wingtwister see my post https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/body-work-interior-paint-glass-appearance/166955-car-care-detailing-dreams-374#post3184243 it has pics of the Goth in it...3 days after applying Megs NXT followed by a coat of Meg GC....

[Mistero]

Elementary my dear, elementary.........priceless post.......I`m just gona zip it now.....nothing left to say!

thank you bhai...sometimes it is important to write such posts...it is also very helpful in keeping oneself in check...the world of detailing is soooo seductive that one tends to get lost in the attractions and the lures of Sinful detailing finishes especially if one is at the stage that I am standing at...a very sensitive one...I can actually make it from here or easily break it... May allah help me in prevailing sense not only in others but in myself as well...Amen...